'I'm Catholic, staunchly anti-abortion, and support Obama

Sawyer is exactly right. In addition to Mr. Cafardi's left leaning thinking, some of his "facts" are a bit misleading. If one looks at many of Sen. Obama's compatriots, one finds some very questionable characters.

"DO NOT be deceived! There will be many false prophets." Saint Paul. As a REAL faithful Roman Catholic and Career Special Operations Marine, I would sooner vote for Osama Bin Laden than Obama n Biden because at least Osama is HONEST about his intentions.

It is more likely that the GOP is lost in America, which may be a welcome development in light of their support for life time limits on welfare (which causes abortion).

Being Catholic is not about being left or right. It is about being moral, or as moral as one can be, with our political choices. We have now had two popes speak out against the war in Iraq has being unjust. Pope John Paul II went so far as to send a special envoy to Crawford, Texas, on the eve of the war to tell President Bush in no uncertain terms that the war had not been justified. And yet the war continues, and John McCain is ready to widen it. In the last five years we also have had the specter of a Plains State bishop bringing a Republican, though non-Catholic, candidate into the Cathedral in a sort of endorsement because of his supposed pro-life policies. Now this candidate's personal actions while governor demonstrated at best a disregard for life, yet he was elected to Congress. His term was effectively ended when he ran a stop sign at high speed and killed a motorcyclist. Abortion cannot be the only litmus test for respect of life.

Sawyer,

I agree. I will not vote for Obama either. I will vote for McCain. I like money (a lot), I like real estate practices rooted in racism, I want to continue to work against human rights -- especially against gay people deciding they want to love one another in a life-long committed relationship (the nerve!). And I like to support the candidate who claims he is Christian even though he has never been baptized (check it out) and his running mate who left the one true faith for the madness of an earth that is 4000-5000 years old - give or take - you betcha!

A vote for McCain is a vote for more death. A vote for Obama is a vote to reduce war, reduce abortion, expand the basic human rights that CST advocates - you know the crazy idea that everybody deserves clean water, a home, freedom from violence, education, access to health care.

Oh - nevermind you've made up your small mind.

AMEN!! looks like the Catholic faith is lost in this country as well

I would like to add that for those that continue to use the "vote Republican" argument because they are pro-life, I would ask that one consider this, the last eight years Republicans have been in office and nothing has been done to reverse abortion, in fact little discussion has taken place about the issue- so voting Republican does not mean anything on that issue thus far. Second, my opinion has always been that war is wrong, especially an unjust war and how can we justify that one life is better than another? Obama opposed the war and he has my vote, he also is in favor of helping the poor and those that are less fortunate, how does a Republican carry Christ's message? They talk a good game, but all I see is greed, money and war. Not Jesus' way for sure!

I think this poster is the dissembler. He/she seems to be a one-issue Catholic, one-issue citizen, and one-issue voter. Catholic faith is broad and deep. If abotion was illegalized in this country what would this poster have left to believe in? This is why the Republican party will never actually work to end abortion in America. It is too good of a political rallying cry to give up to a real effort to end the practice in this country. Now that's dissebling.

Your automatic dismissal of other members of the body of Christ, an assumption that you know their hearts, and a tendency toward despair that God can and will heal America of its abortion sins leads me to believe, sir or madam, that you might be a Rightist first and a Catholic second.

Have you ever considered what would actually happen if abortions were banned in America? Are you telling me they wouldn't be happening anyway? I assume because drugs are illegal in this country that no one uses or possesses those as well. I can assure you that illegal abortions would take place in back alleys, crooked doctor's offices or even worse in the form of self-induced aborts. All of the above mentioned scenarios not only ensure the death of an unborn fetus, but place the physical and emotional health of the mother at risk. It is not about being a "leftist", it's about being a realist. All of this being said while we spend 10 billion dollars per month in taxpayer money to kill innocent living and breathing human beings in Iraq, and have living and breathing American dying every day from diabetes, cancer and other debilitating illnesses due to not having adequate health insurance while living in the wealthiest country on the planet. Now THAT is unconsciouable.

Signed
A recovering Catholic

Mr. Carfardi has lost his faith in God's power and ability to change the hearts of people. I recommend that he read's Pope Benedict XVI's Spe Salvi and not give up hope/faith. I also recommend that he pray the rosary everyday and ask for stronger faith. I know I will be praying for Mr Carfardi's change of heart, acceptance of God's will and a stronger faith.

the "republican immoral baggage" - best line of the article. The Catholic faith has a ton of immoral baggage that they tend to sweep under the rug, acting as if it does not happen, and using their money and muscle to run and hide from the facts. In many ways, this religion is just as corrupt as politics. I'm a lifelong Catholic, and not at all proud of how our religion is run, but don't tell me I'm 2nd rate at being one because I question the 'status quo' of the Cathoic faith. My God gave me a brain - to USE. To question WHY is abortion wrong, and how can it be addressed. Is it wrong simply because my religion says 'believe this way or to hell you go!'. The pain caused to young boys and girls who are molested is unimaginable to me, and we know the consequences are lifelong. Who stands up for the rights of these poor victims? I'm sure there are those who try their best - the Catholic church not being one of them. Their 'mantra' instead - deny / ignore / avoid / payoff / pretend it does not happen! Personally, I feel much closer to God in asking these questions than I do in 'minding my manners' and following the rules I was born into. Catholics need MORE serious enlightened thought such as this article, or I have no doubt the faith will be lost, that point you got right.

As a practicing nurse for over forty years I firmly believe no amount of laws will stop abortion. President-elect Obama is on the right track. We must reduce the reasons for having an abortion. One is not a leftist for taking a very broad look at abortion as Mr. Cafardi has. Desperate women will always find a way to get an abortion. How unchristian of the Republicans to remove from their platform ways in which to reduce abortion!

My daughter was raped ten years ago; she was under the age of 18 and became pregnant. She was so depressed that she probably would have miscarried or killed herself. I couldn't bear to see my child so lost and miserable--the baby inside of her was a reminder of the violence she was forced to live through. The TORTURE SHE LIVED THROUGH. I paid to have the pregnancy terminated. I saved my baby from having a baby, and I don't regret it. She is now a doctor (she treats patients with cognitive disabilities and chronic psychological disorders...not to brag, or anything) and has a happy family. You all write this swill like you are completely confident in your opinions. What if your daughter was raped? How would you feel about abortion then? How would it feel when your baby was having a baby? Can you say that you are good enough to judge someone who opts for a better future for their child? No. Jesus used to associate himself with criminals, lepers (who were thought to be sinful, at the time), and prostitutes...not to chastise them, but to be their friend, which in turn would make better people out of them. Judgmental and overconfident--that's what you are. You're not like Jesus. You don't have all the answers, and your beliefs make you unChristian. Even if legislation was passed to ban abortion or gay marriage, all that would do is force women in to back alleys to get abortions with coat hangers...and force wealthy men and women into prison cells, rather than corporate America! You would harm the world, if you had it your way. Every time you try to control a situation with encroaching politics that infringes upon the masses, people find a way to get what they want (OR NEED). This creates more crime and unnecessary deaths.

Thank God for Obama--he is the forward thinker this country needs AND VOTED FOR. Do not judge lest ye be judged. You aren't like Jesus--you think you have all the answers. You don't, and you're not better than me or anyone who opts for an abortion. Do you think being a ward of the state is a good life for a child? No? Well, since you seem to want to make such a big difference in the world of a child, go adopt one instead of procreating.

You are right! Mr Cafardi may be a legal Scholar for the Catholic church but he is obviously not a Canon Law Scholar.And it is disingenuous for him to suggest that somehow his presentation of himself as a legal scholar makes him an authority on Canon Law. And,clearly, by his opinions as pr4esented,he is not. Canon Law 1329 specifically addresses those Catholics who are accomplices to abortion by voting for any politician like Barack Obama who,through their legislative and proclaimed support of Roe Vs Wade (abortion on demand for any reason),are deemed moral incompetents. And any Catholic who voted for Obama,with full knowledge of his position on abortion, is considered a heretic and is automatically excommunicated (Latae Sententiae). 50 million abortions in 40 years in the U.S. alone under Roe Vs. Wade, goes far beyond medical need and even compassionate judgement. Mr Cafardi should check with his Bishop or even the Vatican before he voices any opinions on Canon Laws of the church. When 41% of a Catholic population vote for a man whose ideology is anti-Catholic in practice as it has already been shown,it is clear that too many of our Catholic Bishops have not met their obligations under the Sacred Majesterium.
It is sad that somehow,many Catholics believe that Catholic doctrine and moral values can be left at the door when it comes to politics. I suggest that they not plead ignorance when they stand before God in judgement as we all will.

Douglas, Like Pres. Clinton's oral sex was not really sex, I assume Obamas remark to his daughter's hypothetical pregnancy shouldn't be something to punish her when it can be taken care of, is a justification of abortion as just another form of birth control.

To me, being well informed means reading both the good and bad things said about those you choose to vote for. I assume that you have read "The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality"

Then you will be sadly mistaken if the Dope of Hope is indeed elected. Expect to pay MUCH more taxes and lose even more rights.

The US Council of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) document "Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship" clearly teaches that not all issues have the same moral equivalence. Some issues involve "intrinsic evils" that can never be justified, such as abortion, same sex unions, euthanasia and human embryonic stem cell research. Issues such as the war in Iraq, the death penalty, immigration, and poverty are not intrinsic evils and different groups can decide how they need to be dealt with.

Even if the war in Iraq and abortion were both intrinsic evils, there is no confusion as to which is most defining moral issue of our day. Since 1973, there have been over 48 million innocent humans killed by abortion (and average of 1.37 million per year), while the number of those who have perished in Iraq pales in comparison.

So you now know that you should not be voting for Obama since he is staunchly pro-abortion. But if you do vote for Obama there will be no way to ease your conscience, because you will know that you are cooperating in the sin of abortion and, if you don't repent, you will be held accountable for the abortion deaths at your judgment.

Who is pro-life really ? I am highly concerned by the extreme hatred spewn against other human beings and Catholics by other pro-life people. This makes no logical or moral sense and goes against what the church teaches. It is getting worse and worse. I have never voted for a Democrat president but after seeing and experiencing personally what the Republican party has done and the pro-life supporters have allowed to be done to the poor, the old and especially children, There is NO WAY they can claim they are pro-life from conception to natural death. The poisoning of children, unborn, men, women, poor, seniors on a daily and perpetual basis with not just the consent of the Republicans but with force against anyone who tries to stop it is ignored. Yes, millions of babies are destroyed by abortions but millions and millions are methodically poisoned everyday. I'm not talking global warming...I'm talking absolutely proven negative harmful long and short term effects from chemicals that the Republicans refuse to acknowledge are harmful and even when they do will do nothing to manage safely or stop it. Pro-life ? Tell that to the woman who wanted a child so badly but kept having miscarriages, couldn't conceive and eventually died of metastatic cancer because she trusted that she was safe living in her neighborhood drinking contaminated water and breathing contaminated air. Tell that to the little girl who lost her eye to a rare form of cancer. Tell that to the conservative christian preacher who had no "vices" but died of Kidney cancer caused by breathing contaminated dust. Tell that to the the kids with blood soaked pillowcases from nosebleeds caused by poisonous gas in the air.

Tell these kids and their families that they aren't important enough to those of you who are supposed pro-life Republican supporters and see the look on their faces and how they feel when they are gasping for air from another asthma attack. Live in OUR shoes for ONE day and you will see, feel and hear WHY we are voting Democrat!

We have begged the Republican party to listen, to help and walk the talk but they REFUSE ! Not just refuse to see cause and effect but do EVERYTHING in their power to convince the pro-life captive audience that there is no such thing as pollution causing illness or death. I actully have lost more conservative Republican Fox news watching neighbors who have died as a direct result of pollution than I have lost liberal Democrats. Surprise !

POLLUTION is non-partisan. It doesn't care who you vote for or your ideology. No amount of arguing or twisting facts will change what we LIVE with everyday. Don't preach to us about being selectively pro-life or EVIL or that I have no right to take Eucharist. We're too busy trying to SAVE LIVES that you all supposedly say you stand for. What answer do I get ? Move. Move where ? Sorry but it's everywhere. Turn my back on neighbors in need ? Sorry can't and won't. Don't cite examples of pollution laws and rules the Republicans have supported or passed because I can guarantee there are purposefully more loop-holes in them than Swiss cheese.

Yeah right....signing the Freedom of Choice Act sounds like someone who loves Abortion and the slaughter of innocence in his quest to build an economic utopia. Look Judas Iscariot betrayed Christ for 30 pieces of silver...and so did everysingle person who voted for Obama. It would be hard to paint a picture of someone who is more isidious and evil then this man.

Both Sen. McCain and Sen. Obama support embryonic stem-cell research, so there is no real difference there. Obama OPPOSES gay marriage. So really, we are back to abortion, aren't we?

I agree wholeheartedly with Douglas, bearing in mind that six out of the last nine administrations have been Republican. If they wanted to overturn Roe v. Wade, or to put any meaningful anti-abortion legislation forward (please don't cite PBA as this just changes the method of execution) they have had ample time to do so. I do not believe the Republican Party has any interest in overturning Roe v. Wade as it would then move the spotlight away from abortion and force Catholics to look at the many other "intrinsic evils" that the Republican Party not only tolerates, but actively promotes.

I support Obama and will continue to oppose abortion, and I hope others will refuse to be bullied into accepting torture, preemptive wars, the use of weapons that indiscriminately kill civilians as well as going along with the sheer GREED that has been exhibited in this country and which is condemned by the Pope.

I will pray for you, Ligonite. Remember the rich man who asked Jesus what more he could do? Jesus told him to give all of his riches to the poor. We are ignoring the poor any time we do not make personal sacrifices for them. It is much easier for us to vote for McCain under the justification of our Catholic Pro-life stand while we know that it will in no way really reduce abortion. It is more difficult to give part of our income to poor, make sacrifices, volunteer in afterschool programs, or be a foster parent which actually may save these babies' lives. I'm sure the priests were horrified when Jesus ate dinner with the tax collectors, and defended the prostitutes. Voting for McCain is the way of the Pharisees. Voting for Obama is the way of Jesus.

The Church is wrong on stem cell research, since before Gastrulation, the organism is not organized. Unorganized collections of stem cells cannot be considered anything but a potential life. You can remove half the stem cells and the child will still develop normally. You cut a blastocyst in two, you get two children. You switch stem cells between two blastocysts, the persons who develop will be the parents of the stem cells, not the organism itself.

Same sex marriage, which sadly Obama does not seem to support, would give Church sanction to a union that God already recognizes, since the individuals make the marriage, not the Church. Marriage is the union and exclusion of two families. When a couple is married they are legally one flesh, meaning that the family is excluded from ownership of that person in all matters. Celebrating a marriage celebrates both that seperation and joins the families in supporting the new union. Unless you are advocating familial rights over the rights of a partner in a gay union, how can you NOT support gay marriage.

Finally, as to being pro-choice vs. pro-abortion - to be pro abortion one must actively counsel it use as an option. I don't see that either Obama or Biden have done that. To be pro-choice is to deny the efficacy of criminal sanctions in reducing abortion - just as prohibition did not work for alcohol and does not work for illegal narcotics.

The onus is actually not on Obama or pro-choice Catholics (or even pro-life Catholics who support Obama) to justify their position. Rather the onus is on the pro-life movement to come up with a legislative program to change the status quo. You cannot castigate us for not supporting a legislative agenda that does not exist. As to the judicial agenda, the stated goal of overturning Roe so as to turn authority over to the states is dangerous, as it would also overturn federal supremacy in all sorts of areas having to do with a federal check on the authority of state legislative majorities over individuals or groups of individuals - like Catholics. I have no doubt that in some Calvinist states where the Pope is still considered the anti-Christ official persecution of the Church could result at the state level without such a check. Without it, just try to build a church in some parts Alabama. 14th Amendment law is actually the best chance of overturning Blaine Amendments to allow for public funding of Catholic schools.

The author is perfectly correct about the efficacy of the pro-life movement for any purpose other than misleading Catholics to vote and give money to Republicans, who have their own pro-life problems in their support for lifetime limits on Aid to Families of Dependent Children, which actually cause people to have abortions. Just that fact alone makes it morally reprehenible to vote for any Republican who does not repudiate that view.

Obama's and McCain's positions on same sex marriage and embryonic stem cell research are virtually identical. They both oppose same sex marriage and both supported the last embryonic stem cell research issue in congress.

Thank you, agree wholeheartedly. This is more evidence that the catholic school academic milieu has become outlandishly secular in outlook.

At first blush at least it appears that even this trained Canon lawyer is basically willingly to draw the conclusion that all issues or disagreements are similar and can be approached by calculating on which side there are more potential issues, not the quality or importance of the moral issue. For instance, death penalty issues and the application of the "just war" doctrine can be well debated -while abortion as a matter of faith and doctrine should not be.

By the way, originally at least, the Roe decsion was based upon a scientific approach to the independent viability of the child. At some point I hope this can get a renewed emphasis. Advances in science should continue to reduce the number trimesters that even under this existing framework is now available for this often euphemized act as merely a "choice".

This is not a black and white issue. Obama said he is against third trimesters abortions, which would help the pro-life movement. Plus, even though McCain, if elected, can elected judges to over turn Roe vs. Wade this does not mean it will be done. The Republican party had control of congress 6 years out of the 8 years of President Bush's term in office and they only over turned Partial-Birth abortion, which many Democrats approved the bill since it was close to infanticide. Bush could have done more but decided that abortion was not as important as other issues like the war. Bush as fooled voters and abused his powers to go beyond what is constitutional as he tortured prisoners in Quantanamo Bay, which is holding foreigners and U.S. citizens who are accused of being linked to Al-Qaeda but are not given their right to habeas corpus. The documentary "Taxi to the Dark Side" has found out that about 7% of the prisoners who are being held in Quantanamo Bay where linked to Al-Qaeda. The rest of those prisoners have no evidence against them being linked to Al-Qaeda since they where not captured by U.S. military but by military and repel groups in Afghanistan. This is a direct threat to our civil rights and the Republican party has supported the Bush administration, including McCain, in allowing these acts to happen. I ask Catholics to see through the lies and understand that gray is better than being lied to.

Can you please tell me why, if you are so for life being given, why you feel that you have a right to then tell that person how to lead it?

You seem to say that tens of millions is too much for people you are demanding should be here.

And before you say that it's G-d's word, please remember that the Almighty also gave us free-will. This then means that life isn't pre-ordained (a point many Christians are very confused about). So rather than banging on about morality, shouldn't you be in the trenches actually helping those already born?

He doesn't support same-sex marriage although he does support civil unions (like Mccain). In an interview with the Chicago Daily Tribune, Obama said, "I'm a Christian. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition, and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman." He contended he may be wrong on this issue. Therefore, even though he is opposed to gay marriage on religious grounds, he is also opposed to a constitutional amendment defining marriage.

Moral contortionists unite! Geez! No matter what kind of excuses people make for themselves a vote for Barack Obama is simply a vote for someone with no moral compass, on abortion or any other major issue. Besides being awfully good looking, (ah, doesn't that smile just melt your heart!) the man has nothing good to offer people with traditional family values. Just look at his ultra liberal history and his less than role model friends. Perhaps the names William Ayers, Tony Resco, Jeramiah Wright, and that crazy Fr. Michael Pfleger don't mean anything to Obama supporters, but they should.

Pope Pius XI once said, "No one can be at the same time a sincere Catholic and a true Socialist." Barack Obama's "big government" agenda is truly socialist and that's the direction he will take our great country if he's elected. It's so ironic. We are fighting to end dictatorial and communist regimes in other parts of the world, but our fine "enlightened" Catholic brothers and sisters here want to put a neo-socialist in the White House!

Please don't insult our intelligence calling us narrow minded for not liking what Obama offers... Perhaps if Catholic Obamaniacs looked at other issues too they would be convinced that Obama is just not the man for the job.

Let's all be sincere Catholics and reject Obama's pro-death politics and government reliance, and support McCain and Palin. They're not perfect, but they're better than the alternative.

TJ

My sentiments exactly, unfortunately most Pro-Life advocates only consider the child's life while in the womb. They forget this same child needs, proper nutrition, medical care and education. I am Pro-life and I consider the whole life of a person as important not just the time in the womb.

It is debatable which approach to governing and economics best serves the poor, sick and oppressed. Perhaps you don’t know that the Republicans were formed by abolitionists and some very faithful religious activists who valued each every human life. The American Catholic church was slow to grasp onto this concept, despite a statement from the pope on the immorality of slavery. It is debatable whether socialism (mandated giving via bureaucratic federal programs) is more humane and even very effective, or if it is actually a violation of human rights and individual freedoms. Maybe you need to read a greater variety of material.
This book seems like a good read:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/11/who_really_cares.html
http://magicstatistics.com/2006/11/29/republicans-are-more-charitable-th...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1759256/posts

But THIS issue is in no way debatable. What kind of person would think it is?:
http://www.onetruemedia.com/otm_site/share_view_player?p=7030bd098cca768...
http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2008/01/top-10-
http://www.catholic.org/video/?v=1493

And, honestly, do you really want to be a pawn of George Soros – restating the same deliberately misleading oxymoronic talking-points as his expensive propaganda machine?
http://www.lifenews.com/nat4485.html
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/22/soros-funding-pro-obama-catholic-gr...

I am praying for my extremely broken Catholic church. It is a very heart-breaking state of affairs.

Party platforms don't do anything to reduce the number of abortions. Policies do.

Palin may profess to be pro-life; however, she supports capital punishment and war! These are two vehicles that support murder. Where is the pro-life support in these cases. Of course, the republicans will say that capital punishment is just in cases of heinous crimes but as Christians who are we to judge or take out a life? Do two wrongs make a right? As for war, think of all the innocent who end up killed that are not part of our "fight for freedom". These people are murdered! So much for being PRO-LIFE! Palin is a hypocrite or she would be a staunch supporter of ending the war and doing away with capital punishment not to mention the sport of hunting!!!!!

I think that it is erroneous to define the platform of McCain/Palin as "pro-life". I think that a policy platform that diminishes access to health care, promotes the continuance (and even escalation) of an unjust war, and seeks to further a policy of "trickle down" economics that has been a proven failure for decades is hardly "pro-life".

The Republican party has long sought to monopolize the votes of the religious right by assuming that they can coin terms such as "pro-life" and expect the religious segment of the electorate to just blindly follow along. I would think that rather than being swayed by this shallow rhetoric, that thinking, educated, Christians would be OFFENDED at the obvious pandering by politicians to try to win the votes of those claiming to be faithful.

A vote for "pro-Life" needs to also take into account the thousands of innocent civilians that have been killed in Iraq. Yes, According to Catholic teaching, Abortion is Murder, and therefore a mortal sin. However, the murder of innocents in an unjust "pre-emptive" (translated--UNPROVOKED) war is no less murder, and no less a mortal sin in the eyes of the Church.

Actually, pro-life people have been working to prevent abortion and provide alternatives for years. There are Pregnancy Care Centers (often called Crisis Pregnancy Centers) all over this country. My mom has worked for one for seven years. They provide all the support for these women that Obama claims that his administration would provide, yet he is on the record telling special interest Planned Parenthood that he would not allow any federal money to go to these private centers. He is clearly beholden to Planned Parenthood and their massive lobbying efforts, and that is the real reason for his pro-choice stance.

You are so very correct. If people would put thier time, effort and money into the reasons why people choose abortion and work to solve or lesson those reasons, there would be far fewer abortions.........who knows maybe maybe almost none. This idea is far better than trying to change legislation.

I agree that throwing barbs and insults at any candidate is operating from one's own shadow. Have you listened to this past weekend's and today's McCain campaigning with Palin slandering and insulting Obama so she and McCain both don't have to address the real issues, like our failing economy! I hope the article you commented on as well as McCain/Palin and their "bully tactics" help you realize the candidate to vote for is Barack Obama!

Carol Stachura states that after a lifetime of teaching in public schools and observing what happens to poor families when Republicans are in charge....she supports Obama. Well I guess this is part of the problem with our public school system when people with this limited intellect are teaching our children. Were there no poor people when Clinton was president? My wife and I tithe (5% to our church and 5% to charity). If Obama is president, we will keep our money for ourselves since there will no longer be any poor people. God save us from such fools as Carol the teacher.

Carol,

You are exactly what is wrong with the public school teachers of today and why all my boys go to Catholic School. On one hand you talk about being Liberal and open-minded then just one paragraph later you are so quick to slam the "other side". I'll pray for you, but am thankful you are no longer indoctrinating our youth with your hate.

Jenny W.

Eric, I can tell how misinformed you are...do you get all your 'information' from Fox? Just asking!

I, along with everyone else here will die one day; we can all agree on that. When we stand before God, just Him and us, there will be no arguing; no debating; no legal representation; no justification; and no superior titles to sway in our favor.
When you come face-to-face with TRUTH ITSELF, the veils of our time will no longer cloud our judgment, the throng of self opinion will be worthless.
God will confront you with one question: "Were you faithful to Me, My Commandments?" Be assured - He will already know before you answer.
You won't be able to utter any defense...because God sees into every soul. Nothing is hidden. At that moment, you will see your own soul without deception. You will have to decide your fate based on the truth of that answer. You will be unable to lie, even to yourself, that Truth is not relative. Paint it any color you like, label it any term you like, but God's truth never changes, regardless of circumstances.

Jesus left the Church in the hands of Peter/Apostles/Magisterium. When free will steps outside the boundaries of God's law, it brings havoc upon man. As America casts God farther away from her, she will soon find that His protection & care will diminish or cease. WHAT WE CHOOSE will be granted, and God will say, "So be it!" Liberalism may be your right; don't be surprised to learn - it will be your downfall. Your soul is what you're gambling. Eternity is for keeps.

You say "Perhaps we need a conclave of the laity to disavow the authoritarianism"

I say perhaps you should become the Protestant that you sound like.

It is a sin to smear someone. You are spreading a smear and Christ will know what you are doing. Obama is a good Christian, a good father, and a good husband.

The Surpreme Court has 7/9 Justices picked by Republican presidents, if they can't get Roe vs Wade overturned, then it won't be by McCain. The Republican party has used it has a wedge issue and NEVER plan to do anything about it.

But if you are Pro-life, all life needs to be protected, not just babies. he is not for infantide, you can't believe every smear email that you get. Look up the actual facts. You have to be against death penalty, unjust wars, helping the poor (which R's don't care about), helping the homeless, health care, fair jobs, etc. All human life.

Using the same logic, georgena, that you have set forth, it would be none of your business if you saw one person killing another on the streets or witnessed a robbery at gunpoint. Simply flawed.

**Who am I to inflict a decision that is none of my business?

Ahh, but it is our business to follow the mandates of our God and our Pope(s) who specifically state that it is a moral sin.

**Bottom line - God gave humans free choice to embrace him or not.

Embrace Him, seek His forgiveness and receive everlasting life. Or not, and be assured of everlasting death.

**I follow God by not "forcing" or "criminalizing" a woman's behavior, the option to make a mistake, or not, by her choice.

And in doing so, you are encouraging the possible next President to honor any and all women's mistakes by defying God's laws. What else will he defy during his tenure?

We are to be the keepers of the faith. Not turn away and ignore God's presence in our lives.....

Our military is voluntary. Most of them survive. They have weapons to defend themselves. None of the unborn volunteer for death. None (almost) of them survive. They can't defend themselves.

Torture is cruel. One might make a case that enemy soldiers are not "innocent" since they are trying to kill you. Unborn babies are innocent victims of cruel torture during abortion procedures. If they do accidentally survive they are left to die.

Our catholic magisterium teaches that abortion is a grave evil that can not be allowed. That is the authority speaking, as abhorrant to Americans as that might be. Our church is not a democracy. It is a kingdom.

Either you accept the authority of the church as established by Christ or you set yourself up as your own ultimate authority. Hello God.