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Two Catholic, pro-life supporters back Senate bill
WASHINGTON -- Two Catholic House members who describe themselves as lifelong supporters of pro-life causes said they are convinced that the Senate-approved health reform legislation headed for a House vote does not expand federal funding of abortion.
Reps. Dale Kildee, D-Mich., and Charlie Wilson, D-Ohio, said at a teleconference sponsored by Faith in Public Life that they would vote for the Senate bill. The House vote was expected to take place March 21.
Kildee, who as a young man spent six years in a Catholic seminary, said he had "always been pro-life" and had sought the counsel of his priest and "read the Senate abortion prohibition more than dozen times" before making his decision.
"I'll be 81 years old this September, and at this point in my life I'm not going to change my mind and start supporting abortion," he said. "I'm not going to risk my eternal salvation."
But his stand is in contrast to that of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which has said the current Senate language would expand abortion funding in several ways and would require some people to pay a premium that would finance other people's abortions. The bishops have called for a "no" vote on the Senate bill unless changes are made.
Wilson said he was "confident that the Senate language upholds my pro-life values" and does not provide any federal funding for abortion.
"I've been a pro-life Catholic my entire career," he said in response to a question. "I have proven that and walked that walk. I do not think we are doing anything to hurt our people."
Both congressmen were supporters of the abortion language proposed by Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., and accepted into the House health reform bill. The U.S. bishops have backed that language over what was adopted in the Senate bill, which they say "contains no relevant provision to prevent the direct use of federal funds for elective abortions."
Two other Democrats who voted for the Stupak amendment -- Reps. John Boccieri of Ohio and Thomas Perriello of Virginia -- announced in the days before the vote that they had accepted the Senate abortion language, although Perriello did not say whether he would vote for the bill.
Bishop Robert N. Lynch of St. Petersburg, Fla., commented on Perriello's decision in his blog, calling him "a conservative pro-life Catholic" who was "convinced that the Senate version would guarantee that no federal funds would find their way to abortion services."
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"If he moves to accept the Senate version, that will be a major moment for the pro-life movement given his past perfect record," the bishop said.
Bishop Lynch, who serves on the board of trustees of the Catholic Health Association, said he supported the bishops' stand on the abortion language "until I have some certainty that we are wrong" but noted that their position "is being refuted by usually reliable sources."
Among them is Sr. Carol Keehan, a Daughter of Charity who is CHA president and CEO, whom Bishop Lynch called "a good woman of the church, no liberal troublemaker by any stretch of the imagination and a woman who as CEO turned Providence Hospital around from certain bankruptcy and closing to a viable facility in the northeast section of the District [of Columbia] serving an increasingly poor and marginalized community."
Keehan told Bishop Lynch that she believes the Senate bill, "as written now, meets the test of no federal funding for abortion. We said that we wanted that preserved in the reconciliation bill, not fixed. ... We would not have taken the position we took if we were hoping for a fix. It had to be already in place and it is."
At least one Catholic health system announced, however, that it did not support the CHA position.
Sisters of St. Francis Health Services, which runs eight hospitals in Indiana and Illinois, said the health reform bill currently before the House "still contains language that would allow the federal funding of abortion, as well as restrictions on conscience clauses that protect health care providers (individuals and institutions) who morally object to abortion."
At the March 18 teleconference, in addition to the two congressmen, participants also included Francis Xavier Doyle, a former associate general secretary of the U.S. bishops, and Sr. Simone Campbell, a Sister of Social Service who is executive director of the national Catholic social justice lobby Network.
Doyle thanked Kildee, Wilson and other pro-life members of Congress "for taking a thoughtful and deliberative approach to addressing this monumental challenge."
"You have followed your conscience and maintained important principles that reflect core values in a way that is often rare in politics today," he added.
Doyle noted that "Catholic teaching has long promoted universal health care as a fundamental human right."
"No legislation is perfect, but this legislation is the first step in reforming a broken system," he said.
Faith in Public Life, which sponsored the teleconference, describes itself as a "strategy center advancing faith in the public square as a positive and unifying force for justice, compassion and the common good."
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I was really impressed by
I was really impressed by Bishop Lynch's blog. On health care, he recognizes the credibility of some pro-reform Catholics, while respectfully disagreeing with them. I find this much more persuasive than some of the other bishops who just attack those who see issues differently. The Archbishop of Denver, for example, calls Catholics who disagree with him "Catholics". Emphasis on the "quotes". For me, it seems a little arrogant to throw out aggressive pronouncements on complex issues and insist we all agree with them; I tend to just tune those folks out. I am much more impressed with leaders who show a little bit of humility in their thinking, I find myself more receptive to what they're saying.
The Bishop's blog has a lot of interesting thinking on all kinds of pastoral and political issues: http://blogs.dosp.org/bishoplynch/
I am pleased to see reporting
I am pleased to see reporting of Rep. Kildee's and Wilson's reasoning. There are actual facts of the language of the bill which one should look to, not the propagandizing or fact-ignoring of others.
Unfortunately the Ecclesial authorities often fail to expose the factual assumptions or actual facts underlying their otherwise conclusory statements. Given that there are some non-Catholic loud voices that utter outright lies about the proposed law, conclusory statements by Catholic voices in authority are laid open to question. For example, have the Bishops had in-house advice from qualified legal advisors familiar with the proposed law as to the actual content of the legislation? Or are the Bishops relying upon third parties' analyses? Was a litmus test applied, i.e. does the proposal in any one place expressly prohibit any federal funds going to abortion? Or was a thorough examination made to reveal that the law does or does not anywhere authorize such federal funds going toward abortion? Given existing law that prohibits federal funding of abortion, such an express authorization might well be required.
In short, Catholic authority needs to make express the factual understandings upon which their opinions on a matter of law are based.
These are two serious men.
These are two serious men. These are two heroes.
Thanks, welll said,
Thanks, welll said, BronxLady! Prayers that your message be heard and received.
Flip-flopping male "RUST BELT
Flip-flopping male "RUST BELT CATHOLICS" are determining the future of health care reform in America?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/20/AR201003...
One would think that given their states' own economic PRESENT, these legislators would be more responsible to their constituents, and not just their local ordinaries and/or campaign contributions from big insurance's lobbying juggernaut.
Or are they simply INTOXICATED by the POWER they are currently wielding in Washington?
Memo to Stupak and Pitts:
Re-read the HYDE AMENDMENT!
http://www.nrlc.org/ahc/HydeAmendmentText.html
Your own amendment isn't about ending or even curtailing abortions; it's all about -big surprise- THE MONEY!
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/images/nytint/docs/the-stupak-amen...
Lucky for you guys that Catholics are so gullible that they let their morally outstanding BISHOPS do their thinking for them!
my company has been holding
my company has been holding on for the last 2 years to stay in business. in 2008 we had a 70,000.00 loss and in 2009 we had a 124,000.00 loss. i took these losses out of my retirement fund. now comes health care reform and this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. we now will close our doors after 52 years in business. we are down to 5 employees. there is no way i can absorb the added expense of mandated health insurance. when i asked my people if they wanted a pay raise or health insurance, guess what! they needed the pay raise to keep their heads above water.
here are the repercussions. i paid 30,000 to 32,000.in federal payroll taxes and 8,000 in state taxes. you will now have 5 people in the unemployment lines and a great loss in payroll taxes. and that is only the beginning. all my charitable contributions will be lower. one of my employees has 5 children and i am now making him your resposibility. we are not getting out of this depression until we become a maufacturing nation once again. china has underbid us consistently because they do not have the mandates that we do. in our hey day we had 249 customers. we are left with 13 shaky customes. this country is losing all its manufacturing base and becoming a nation of services. services will not pull us through. but then of course this may be god's reward to all the repressed people of the world.
i wish this gets to sister simone campbell because as good as her intentions are, she has been hustled. sliced and diced!!! obviously she has no business experience or she would have recognized immediately what poor timing this is.
i am every bit has charitable as she is and with 52 years of experience running a very viable business paying my fair share of taxes.
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