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Burke apolgizes for remarks critical of U.S. bishops
'Videotaped interview was only meant to be shared with pro-life workers'
Mar. 26, 2009
Archbishop Raymond Burke, Prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura, issued an apology today to “my brother bishops” for statements he made earlier this month that were released yesterday in a videotape at the National Press Club in Washington.
Update: Read Loverde’s and Wuerl’s repsonse
In that video, released by anti-abortion activist Randall Terry, Burke chided bishops for failing to withhold Communion from Catholic politicians who back legalized abortion.
He also said President Barack Obama "could be an agent of death" if his support for abortion rights becomes a model for leaders in other countries.
Burke said the failure of some bishops to stand up by withholding Communion is “weakening the faith of everyone.
He said "It's giving the impression that it must be morally correct to support procured abortion."
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EARLIER STORY: Archbishop Burke chides U.S. bishops on abortion (including transcript of videotape interview with Randall Terry.)
Watch the Terry interview of Archbishop Burke (two parts)
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In Burke’s statement of apology he said that Terry and some of his associates had visited him in Rome and had asked to videotape an interview “to share with pro-life workers for the purpose of their encouragement.” The interview was conducted on Mar. 2.
“Sadly, Mr. Terry has used the videotape for another purpose which I find most objectionable,” the Burke statement went on to say.
“First, Mr. Terry issued a media advisory which gave the impression that I would be physically present at the press conference during which he played the videotape, when, in fact, I was in Rome.
“Second, I was never informed that the videotape would become part of a press conference.
“Third, I gave the interview as a Bishop from the United States to encourage those engaged in the respect life apostolate, not as the Prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura.
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“Fourth, I was never informed that the videotape would be used as part of a campaign of severe criticism of certain fellow bishops regarding the application of Canon 915 of the Code of Canon Law.
“If I had known what the true purpose of the interview was, I would never have agreed to participate in it.
He then said: “I am deeply sorry for the confusion and hurt which the wrong use of the videotape has caused to anyone, particularly, to my brother bishops.”
Terry, the former leader of Operation Rescue, has initiated a campaign to lobby Vatican officials to remove U.S. Catholic bishops who were not doing enough to stop abortions.
He called for the removal of Bishop Loverde of Arlington and Archbishop Wuerl of Washington DC.
Among other U.S. prelates singled out by Terry for “rejecting church teachings” were Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony and the former archbishop of Washington, Cardinal Theodore McCarrick. Terry specifically accused them of not denying Communion to certain Catholic politicians.
"One of the reasons we are here is to specifically request the transfer of Bishop Loverde of Arlington and Archbishop Wuerl of Washington DC," Terry was quoted as saying at the time.
Terry converted to Catholicism in 2005
His videotaped interview, shown at the press club, lasted 12 minutes.
Meanwhile, organizers of the annual National Catholic Prayer Breakfast announced March 26 that Burke will deliver the keynote address at this year's breakfast, which will be held on Friday, May 8.
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia will be guest speaker at the event. Last year’s speaker was then-President George W. Bush.
UPDATE: In a March 26 telephone interview to respond to the statement, Terry told Catholic News Service he had nothing but positive things to say about Archbishop Burke, but also said it was made clear to the archbishop that the videotaped interview would be aired on television and radio.
"In the archbishop's defense, I didn't think to tell him I would be distributing a transcript of the interview," Terry said. "But it was made clear to him that it would be made available to the public."





The Holy Spirit at work!
The Holy Spirit at work! Pray for all concerned. Grace and peace with prayers always in Christ!
Bishop Burke broke the
Bishop Burke broke the ELEVENTH COMMANDMENT:
Thou Shalt NOT get Caught.
He will take over Cardinal Law's post, when Cardinal Law retires - as the title archpriest of St. Mary Major Basilica, a largely ceremonial post often given to retired prelates.
Vatican appoints former Boston archbishop head of a Rome basilica
The Associated Press
Thursday, May 27, 2004
VATICAN CITY- Pope John Paul II on Thursday gave Cardinal Bernard F. Law an official position in Rome, naming the former Boston archbishop who resigned in the sex abuse scandal as head of a basilica.
Law will have the title archpriest of St. Mary Major Basilica, a largely ceremonial post often given to retired prelates.
The 72-year-old Law resigned Dec. 13, 2002, to quell an outcry over his handling of sex abuse cases. He was the highest-ranking church leader to lose his job over the scandal that began in Boston and spread to Roman Catholic dioceses across the U.S., plunging the church into an unprecedented moral and financial crisis.
He moved from Boston and became resident chaplain at a convent in Maryland, although he retained his membership on nine Vatican congregations and councils, traveling frequently to Rome. He attended a number of events during celebrations for John Paul's 25th anniversary as pontiff in October.
An archpriest is in charge of administration in a basilica, and has ceremonial functions. At St. Mary Major in downtown Rome, near the city's main railroad station, he succeeds 82-year-old Italian Cardinal Carlo Furno.
Boston attorney Mitchell Garabedian, who represents more than 130 alleged victims of sexual abuse by priests, said the Vatican was sending a bad message by giving Law a high profile new job.
"He apparently is being transferred to a position that is comfortable and appears to be some sort of reward," Garabedian said. "The Vatican either doesn't understand the problem of clergy sex abuse, or it doesn't care. That shows by this new prestigious post given to Cardinal Law."
The Boston Archdiocese was at the center of the national clergy sex abuse scandal following the release of church documents revealing that church leaders shuffled accused priests from parish to parish instead of removing them from ministry.
Law himself was named in hundreds of lawsuits accusing him of failing to protect children from known child molesters. Ten months after his departure, Law's successor, Archbishop Sean P. O'Malley, helped to broker an $85 million settlement agreement with more than 550 victims of clergy sex abuse.
The Rev. Christopher Coyne, a spokesman for the Boston Archdiocese, did not immediately return calls seeking comment.
After becoming head of the nation's fourth-largest archdiocese in 1984, Law rose to become one of the pope's closest American advisers. Even after his resignation as archbishop of Boston, he retained the title of cardinal, leaving open the possibility that he could take another church post and retaining the right to vote in papal elections until he turns 80.
St. Mary Major is one of four basilicas under direct Vatican jurisdiction. It has an international staff of priests for the many tourists who visit the city.
No one answered the telephone at the basilica's offices on Thursday.
Somebody has a fixation. Let
Somebody has a fixation. Let it go. There's more to life...
“I am deeply sorry for the
“I am deeply sorry for the confusion and hurt which the wrong use of the videotape has caused to anyone, particularly, to my brother bishops.”
The Bishop is NOT sorry for what he said.
He is sorry for the confusion and hurt caused.
The Confusion and HURT was caused by the WRONG use of the Videotape.
That is NO APOLOGY.
What exactly is wrong with
What exactly is wrong with what he said? All he said was that pro-abortion Catholic politicians should be denied Communion, which is absolutely true.
If nothing was wrong, why was
If nothing was wrong, why was an apology necessary?
Bishop Burke reminds us yet
Bishop Burke reminds us yet another time of the weak calibre and integrity of the current crop of American bishops. What a pathetic creature! Thank God he is in Rome, now.
Peter Carey
Yes the Holy Spirit is at
Yes the Holy Spirit is at work, weak leaders like Cardinal Burke exhibit for all to see and understand that the Church is human, it is political, its leaders can be, as demonstrated, manipulative of its membership, it is only by the grace of God that we have lasted this long as an institution. Continue to pray for discernment always, pray that new appointments to leadership are strong, remember above all God is with us in spite of our leaders arrorgance.
Yes the Holy Spirit is at
Yes the Holy Spirit is at work, weak leaders like Bishop Burke exhibit for all to see and understand that the Church is human, it is political, its leaders can be, as demonstrated, manipulative of its membership, it is only by the grace of God that we have lasted this long as an institution. Continue to pray for discernment always, pray that new appointments to leadership are strong, remember above all God is with us in spite of our leaders arrorgance.
Cardinal Burke writes, “If I
Cardinal Burke writes, “If I had known what the true purpose of the interview was, I would never have agreed to participate in it."
But nowhere does he apologizes FOR WHAT HE SAID.
Once again, ROME apologizes for the wrong thing...
Dominos vobiscom,
RJ
Nothing wrong with the facts
Nothing wrong with the facts that he explained from a Catholic teaching perspective as they are main line teachings and those percieved to be commented about in the heirarchy are very familiar with Archbishop Burke and his teachings as Ordinary of St Louis. However, the manner in which this was communicated was clearly wrong on so many levels... It's a problem about how it was communicated-these American Bishops commented about are APOSTLES and it is their duty to treat each other with utmost respect. Remembering Jesus when he says "LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS I HAVE LOVED YOU". One doesn't need to be a Binlical Scholar to realize that Jesus was talking to the Apostles and the first sense of the biblical passage is that it applies first and foremost DIRECTLY to Bishops. Pray for all concerned, that Cardinal Mahoney and others offended by the manner of communication will forgive their brother bishop. Pray for all concerned in Christ...
He's not a cardinal yet ...
He's not a cardinal yet ... just thinks and acts as if he was.
If you're going to use Latin,
If you're going to use Latin, please spell it correctly: Dominus vobiscum.
Dominus Vobiscum. Et Cum
Dominus Vobiscum.
Et Cum spirito tuo.
Mea maxima
Mea maxima culpa.
RJ
http://www.firstthings.com/blog/2008/07/29/mea-maxima-culpa/
I can hardly believe that lay
I can hardly believe that lay people and extremists like R.Terry , are giving insrtuctions to the bishops when they feel they're not being sufficiently condemnatory. They have been born centuries too late , as they would heve been ideal at skinning peple alive , implementing trial by ordeal , and burning human beings alive. I grew up Catholic back in the days of 'Habemus ad Dominum' , but gave it up when we were no longer able to arrange with the priest , on a scorcher hot day , or when there was a game that afternoon ; to speed up the Mass , so as to get to 'Ite Missa est", sooner. We knew that God understood Latin at any speed. And the faithful had not a clue as to what we were saying.
As for the issue above , again , you forgot 'Nobis quoque peccatoribus...'
Luckily I'm having a spring and summer sale on partial indulgences.
Benedictio Dei omnipotentis , +Pater , et +Filius , et +Spiritus Sanctus , descendat super vos et maneat semper. ( Papal blessing , but from me ; it's overkill and showing off.
Now let me get this straight.
Now let me get this straight. Archbishop Burke is saying that the videotaped interview was meant only “to share with pro-life workers for the purpose of their encouragement.”
You mean? Apology to U.S. bishops: "I'm sorry. I was only offering my criticisms behind your backs."
Well said!
Well said!
You got it right . Another
You got it right . Another example of the hierarchy from the top down starting in Rome putting their foot in their mouth. They all need a lesson in media communications.
Perhaps he only means that
Perhaps he only means that he's sorry his statements were discovered and the US bishops found out (again) what he really is.
This fellow Randall Terry is
This fellow Randall Terry is hardly out of the Mystagogia phase and really should have a qualified spiritual director, especially since he seems to hold some unofficial percieved authority in American Catholic circles. Just as "progressive" catholics can at times be more "progressive" than Catholic, or just as "traditionalist" catholics can at times be mor "traditionalist" than Catholic. One should remember that they are not "Pro-Life" catholics, being more "pro-life" than catholic - but simply Catholic. Mr Terry should seek the Sacrament of Reconciliation based upon what Archbishop Burke says about the incident-this is undeniably very serious matter for a Catholic. Sincerely in Christ, another Catholic...
Let me be a bit more blunt.
Let me be a bit more blunt. Randall Terry is unstable. He has a long history of wacky behavior and I'm surprised that anyone in the church hierarchy would get mixed up with him despite his new found Catholicism. Abortion is merely the wedge he used to get his foot in the door. His real mission was to demand punishment for those bishops he and his rightwing cohorts find too liberal to suit them.
I've met Randall Terry and I
I've met Randall Terry and I did not perceive him to be in any way "wacky".
He realizes with an intensity many of us do not experience the horror of what is happening in abortuaries all over the world. While some of his tactics may appear extreme to some, what could possibly be extreme enough to stop the daily systematic extermination of thousands of unborn children? A brutal war was fought to stop the scourge of slavery, what are we willing to do to stop the slaughter of the weakest among us?
Excellent point about the
Excellent point about the need for spiritual direction to help us keep from getting too full of ourselves, and well said, too.
His apology rings hollow. He
His apology rings hollow. He is sorry his comments became public; he is not sorry for the content, which he continues to believe. What a poor example of compassionate leadership.
He is SORRY that he got
He is SORRY that he got CAUGHT.
He will follow in the footsteps of another Bishop/Cardinal from America:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/28/us/cardinal-law-given-post-in-rome.html
Cardinal Law Given Post In Rome
By AL BAKER; Laurie Goodstein and Daniel J. Wakin contributed reporting from New York.
Published: Friday, May 28, 2004
Cardinal Bernard F. Law, who was forced to resign as leader of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Boston after a long and painful sexual abuse scandal involving clergy members, was chosen by Pope John Paul II on Thursday to head a basilica in Rome.
A statement released in the Vatican's daily bulletin announced that Cardinal Law, who resigned in 2002, would become the archpriest of St. Mary Major Basilica, a church in a downtown neighborhood of Rome that is under direct Vatican jurisdiction.
The statement said that Cardinal Law, 72, would succeed the 82-year-old Italian Cardinal Carlo Furno, but it did not say when. It made no mention of Cardinal Law's new responsibilities, but a Vatican official said that ''now he will be responsible for one of the four most important basilicas'' in Rome. ''He will be in charge of the administration of the priests and anything related to the basilica,'' the official said of Cardinal Law. He added that the post ''is not a position of power.''
The appointment angered the cardinal's critics and others who see it as a reward.
David G. Clohessy, the national director of Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests, a nonprofit support group based in Chicago, chided church leaders in Rome for what he called insensitivity to abuse victims.
''Why can't the Vatican officials see that any position of honor afforded to Law will inevitably and needlessly cause more pain to hundreds who have been abused and have already suffered enough?'' Mr. Clohessy said. He added, ''It just rubs salt into already deep wounds for parishioners, victims and their families.''
Cardinal Law, who has been serving as chaplain at the Sisters of Mercy of Alma convent in Clinton, Md., could not be reached for comment.
It was at a meeting in the Vatican on Dec. 13, 2002, that Pope John Paul II accepted the resignation of Cardinal Law, then the senior American prelate in the Roman Catholic Church. The resignation came after nearly a year of revelations that the cardinal and archdiocesan officials that he supervised had repeatedly allowed priests accused of sexual abuse to remain in the ministry. The news of Cardinal Law's new position seemed to tear at emotional scars from those events.
''It's pretty offensive for most Catholics, and the timing couldn't be worse,'' said David Gibson, author of ''The Coming Catholic Church'' (Harper San Francisco, 2003). ''They're just cleaning up the mess in Boston and closing parishes, and he's getting the ultimate golden parachute. He's getting a beautiful apartment in Rome in one of the four major basilicas in Christendom.''
Despite his resignation in Boston, Cardinal Law has remained a powerful American figure in the Vatican. He has posts in as many as nine Vatican congregations, or departments, including the one that determines church leadership worldwide by nominating candidates for bishop. He is a member of the Congregation for Clergy, which has a role in handling sexual abuse cases that are sent to Rome.
Now that Cardinal Law is an archpriest in Rome, it will clear the way for his successor in Boston, Archbishop Sean O'Malley, to be made a cardinal, Mr. Gibson said. Cardinals can vote in the conclave to choose the next pope.
The appointment could be financially lucrative for Cardinal Law. His predecessor in the job, Cardinal Furno, received a 10,000 euro monthly stipend, or about $12,000, said a former Vatican official who is a friendly acquaintance of Cardinal Furno. Cardinal Furno lived in a palatial apartment alongside the right flank of the basilica that is reserved for the archpriest, said the former official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
''It's the classical Roman apartment with frescoes on the wall,'' the former official said. Cardinal Furno paid for costly renovations, he said, adding, ''It's endless.''
The appointment is also likely to make Cardinal Law one of the most influential Americans in the Vatican.
And the job will give him considerable autonomy. While at the Maryland convent, he was technically under the authority of the local bishop. Now, ''he answers to no one but the pope,'' the former Vatican official said.
Moses, get over it. All this
Moses, get over it. All this happened five years ago for Heaven's sake. Cardinal Law has been marginalized, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, NOT the Congregation for Clergy, now handles priest abuse cases, and the Church has made significant steps forward in dealing with this issue. Even Pope Benedict, on his first pilgrimage to the US last year, made frequent apologies for the abuse cases and met with victims in an attempt to start the healing process.
However, that process, that healing, cannot take place until people choose to forgive, to let go the past and embrace the future. Try it, you might find that forgiveness is a genuine tonic for the soul, just as Our Lord promised it would be.
Oh, and Archbishop Burke will not follow Cardinal Law. Though his method may be questioned, Burke was right in what he said, unlike Cardinal Law. And therein lies the difference.
The process of healing can
The process of healing can not really begin until the Bishops and Cardinals responsible for the sexual and financial crisis come completely clean and resign. To continue to promote a man like Law only shows that the Church with all its apologies is only deluding itself if it believes it can continue to cover up its messes. This only increase the crisis in leadership and makes the Episcopacy irrelevant.
Peace and understanding,
R. Dennis Porch, MD
Amen to that. The healing
Amen to that. The healing cannot begin until the bishops address their own moral failure in the cover up of priest sexual abuse. And they must make amends relevant to the way in which they acted, as any good confessor knows. They abused their power of assigning priests and this is what they must give up. The assignment of priests must be returned to the ones who were abused, the laity. Bishops should have a say, but not the dominant say, in where priests are assigned. That power now belongs to the laity, and until bishops acknowledge this, there will be no healing. Thus far, they have retained every ounce of power in regards to assigning priests that they had when the abuse was discovered. As long as that situation persists, there is no assurance they can offer in regard to whether they have assigned ill-intentioned priests. Their motives will remain suspect. That is what got us into this mess to start with, and that is what must be corrected. There simply is no other way to restore confidence and trust in the moral authority of bishops. As long as they retain full authority to assign priests, why should we trust their choices? They have proven themselves totally untrustworthy in that regard.
Do not confuse "compassion"
Do not confuse "compassion" with "compromise"! He IS a compassionate leader, but he stands on principle.
I'm not sure why Archbishop
I'm not sure why Archbishop Burke should be so surprised that Randall Terry would lie to him about his motivational use of the interview. Militant pro lifers have been sand bagging Planned Parenthood clinics as a matter of course. Why should Burke think he was immune to their tactics?
Some apology, he attacks Terry, and calls that an apology. Is this the new Vatican concept of issuing an apology, attack the messenger? The irony is that Burke himself has done a great deal to empower this kind of messenger.
Colkoch1, you imply rather
Colkoch1, you imply rather strongly that "militant pro lifers" have a well established reputation for lying. I would ask you what evidence you have for that. I've belonged to the pro life movement for better than two decades, and I am proud to be joined with such people, for the utter worthiness of the cause they represent, and also because I admire them as people of integrity. They are not necessarily great PR people, but they do stand for a truth that our country (world) will not face, namely that taking human life is not an acceptable solution for personal or social problems. It is the so called pro choice people who stand for a lie, or at least will not face the truth that every life is sacred from conception to natural death
Its not lying so much as
Its not lying so much as blatant Republican political opportunism. If you have been involved as a foot solider, you have been their pawn. If you have been one of their leaders, then shame on you.
Militant pro lifers have been
Militant pro lifers have been going into Planned Parenthood offices under false pretenses in order to clandestinely video tape and record counseling sessions. Terry did virtually the same thing by interviewing Archbishop Burke under false pretenses. These types of activities happen.
I specifically used the term militant pro lifers to denote a difference from pro life people who are upright, truthful, and ethically committed to this cause.
Colkoch1 may imply it, I will
Colkoch1 may imply it, I will say it flat out.
Militant pro lifers lie, cheat, use deceit, vandelism, hate rhetoric and violence. They in general are an embarrassment to the movement. Militant pro lifers and their actions bring dishonor to the cause, and also smear the name of catholicism and christianity.
There are many in the prolife movement who are sincere and passionate about the cause. Bless you. Unfortunately, many are nothing more that domestic terrorists.
Does waving a sign with the words "baby killer" make a difference?
Does vandelizing property do anything to reduce the abortion rate?
Does assaulting the workers in the clinics or the patients forward the goals of the movement?
I could list dozens of actions that have been used by the "militant pro lifers". Have any of them made a difference.
NO! And they never will. It has nothing to do with PR. It has everything to do with the fact that in far too many cases, "militant pro lifer" and "domestic terrorist" have become synonymous.
Are you even Catholic?
Are you even Catholic?
Burke covering his tracks The
Burke covering his tracks
The archbishop is having to cover his tracks now that Randall Terry has helped him spill his guts to all the world. As usual, the solution is the same: Stop giving money to the church. Cut them off. Offer your physical support, ie, lector, Eucharistic minister, catechist, whatever, but don't prime the pump of hate by giving this bunch money.
In reading the interview, I
In reading the interview, I knew prefectly well Mr. Terry is a fanatic. For Archbishop Burke to be unable to discern this indicates a lack of judgment. Hmmm. What's his new title again? Pathetic!
Isn't it wonderful to see His
Isn't it wonderful to see His Grace(less) hoist with his own petard? Ah, there is no freude like schadenfreude some days...
I think Ab. Burke has done
I think Ab. Burke has done more to harm the Church in the US than most people. His arrogance and self-righteousness are alarming. As we begin to approach Holy Week we will encounter men in the gospel readings who thought that they were correct and righteous and were alarmed by the radical Jesus' approach to life, people, and the law. Maybe Burke can see himself in these stories.
That was fast. Does
That was fast. Does Saskatoon need a new bishop?
Please Michael, Saskatoon,
Please Michael, Saskatoon, Sask, Canada, has more class than this.
Bishop Burke is a coward and
Bishop Burke is a coward and a traitor to the Church!!!! If he had any integrity at all he would have stood by his orginal comments. Instead, another American Bishop bows to political pressure and abandons the Church. Bishop Burke is not a real Catholic if he gives in to those pro-Abortion Bishops and thus should be removed from Office. Either he spoke the truth and wants to stand by it or he is a lying cowrad who should be excommunicated.
Well, Harry, since it is
Well, Harry, since it is likely Vatican officials who "suggested" he apologize, who now is going to do the excommunication?
Dear Harry: It appears that
Dear Harry: It appears that your are correct to some extent-"Bishop burke is a coward and a traitor.... (to his fellow travellers, at least- my addendum). If he had any integrity at all he would have stood by his original remarks." Right on. Even right wingers, especially right wingers, keep a watch over your shoulder - on your friends.
Yea! and all the Bishops &
Yea! and all the Bishops & Priests who ignore the fact that the Catholic majority practice artificial birth control should be "removed from office". These morally corrupt couples have the nerve to receive communion. Perhaps the parish priest should police all young catholic families that do not have a new baby every few years? A committee of the upstanding faithful could act as questioners, like the inquisition? We shouldn't forget the unmarried sexually active couples. Perhaps we need to police them too! After all they too dare to receive communion, when they go to church. By the way, last time I heard, birth control pills are actually abortafacients because the pill acts by creating a hostile host for the CONCEIVED ovum to impregnate the womb, a process called fecundation. Imagine the millions of conceived ovums that are wasted every month. Maybe we need to go after the doctors who perscribe B.C. pills and excommunicate them too? Then the church would be HOLY!
Sure, go after everybody.
Sure, go after everybody. Isn't that what Jesus did? Oh, wait, something about forgiveness seems to be missing here.
"Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, 'Lord, how many times must I forgive my brother when he sins against me? Up to 7 times?' Jesus answered, 'I tell you, not 7 times, but 70 times 7 times.'" -Matthew 18:20-22
Peace & prayers.
Pro-abortion ... as a matter
Pro-abortion ... as a matter of English means wanting abortions to occur. Which of the Bishops is advocating that all babies be destroyed?
Please tell me exactly what the pro-life movement has accomplished in the last, what, forty or fifty years? Nothing.
Isn't it time to try something additional by way of strategy? Or do all the pro-life people scatter when we undertake to improve public support for pregnant women and young families in this age when even good jobs don't provide enough money for a mother to stay home in a two-parent household. Shall we ignore the cries of the poor, at the same time we seek to jail those of them who dare get pregnant and seek to abort?
Yes, it is my belief abortion can be made so unusual as to harness social consensus to stop virtually all, and that that can be achieved with lightning speed compared to the criminalization approach. But we don't need to stop that approach. We can proceed on many fronts at one time.
So how many faces does the
So how many faces does the Archbishop have? Any integrity?
He shouldn't have
He shouldn't have apologized.
I agree.
I agree.
He didn't.
He didn't.
Does Ray Burke ever get it
Does Ray Burke ever get it right?
I hope in his "capacity as a
I hope in his "capacity as a US bishop," Burke didn't vote for John McCain.
http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/11/15/catholic-mccain-voters-are-g...
Archbishop Burke's
Archbishop Burke's explanation deems his remarks as double hypocracy.
Hypocrisy at its finest!
Hypocrisy at its finest!
It's men like Archbishop
It's men like Archbishop Burke and comments like his that are causing reasonable people to begin to ignore the bishops. Their credibility continues to decline at an increasing rate.
As an earlier comment said, "pray for us all".
Mr Terry has behaved rather
Mr Terry has behaved rather shamefully in using a recorded interview for his own purposes without the consent of the eminent interviewee.
However, his action has had the interesting result of showing us what Archbishop Burke has been thinking. Once again God writes straight with crooked lines.
The hierarchy of the Church
The hierarchy of the Church is a confedracy of dunces dedicated to self serving irrelavance."Ready, fire, aim", is their PR motto.
Please order a hand-painted
Please order a hand-painted reproduction of this painting for Burke
http://www.humanitiesweb.org/human.php?s=g&p=c&a=p&ID=1129
The Blind Leading the Blind
You witty, witty devil, you!
You witty, witty devil, you! Thanks for the belly laugh.
Follow Cardinal
Follow Cardinal Law
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/28/us/cardinal-law-given-post-in-rome.html
May 28, 2004
Cardinal Law Given Post In Rome
By AL BAKER; Laurie Goodstein and Daniel J. Wakin contributed reporting from New York.
Cardinal Bernard F. Law, who was forced to resign as leader of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Boston after a long and painful sexual abuse scandal involving clergy members, was chosen by Pope John Paul II on Thursday to head a basilica in Rome.
A statement released in the Vatican's daily bulletin announced that Cardinal Law, who resigned in 2002, would become the archpriest of St. Mary Major Basilica, a church in a downtown neighborhood of Rome that is under direct Vatican jurisdiction.
The statement said that Cardinal Law, 72, would succeed the 82-year-old Italian Cardinal Carlo Furno, but it did not say when. It made no mention of Cardinal Law's new responsibilities, but a Vatican official said that ''now he will be responsible for one of the four most important basilicas'' in Rome. ''He will be in charge of the administration of the priests and anything related to the basilica,'' the official said of Cardinal Law. He added that the post ''is not a position of power.''
The appointment angered the cardinal's critics and others who see it as a reward.
David G. Clohessy, the national director of Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests, a nonprofit support group based in Chicago, chided church leaders in Rome for what he called insensitivity to abuse victims.
''Why can't the Vatican officials see that any position of honor afforded to Law will inevitably and needlessly cause more pain to hundreds who have been abused and have already suffered enough?'' Mr. Clohessy said. He added, ''It just rubs salt into already deep wounds for parishioners, victims and their families.''
Cardinal Law, who has been serving as chaplain at the Sisters of Mercy of Alma convent in Clinton, Md., could not be reached for comment.
It was at a meeting in the Vatican on Dec. 13, 2002, that Pope John Paul II accepted the resignation of Cardinal Law, then the senior American prelate in the Roman Catholic Church. The resignation came after nearly a year of revelations that the cardinal and archdiocesan officials that he supervised had repeatedly allowed priests accused of sexual abuse to remain in the ministry. The news of Cardinal Law's new position seemed to tear at emotional scars from those events.
''It's pretty offensive for most Catholics, and the timing couldn't be worse,'' said David Gibson, author of ''The Coming Catholic Church'' (Harper San Francisco, 2003). ''They're just cleaning up the mess in Boston and closing parishes, and he's getting the ultimate golden parachute. He's getting a beautiful apartment in Rome in one of the four major basilicas in Christendom.''
Despite his resignation in Boston, Cardinal Law has remained a powerful American figure in the Vatican. He has posts in as many as nine Vatican congregations, or departments, including the one that determines church leadership worldwide by nominating candidates for bishop. He is a member of the Congregation for Clergy, which has a role in handling sexual abuse cases that are sent to Rome.
Now that Cardinal Law is an archpriest in Rome, it will clear the way for his successor in Boston, Archbishop Sean O'Malley, to be made a cardinal, Mr. Gibson said. Cardinals can vote in the conclave to choose the next pope.
The appointment could be financially lucrative for Cardinal Law. His predecessor in the job, Cardinal Furno, received a 10,000 euro monthly stipend, or about $12,000, said a former Vatican official who is a friendly acquaintance of Cardinal Furno. Cardinal Furno lived in a palatial apartment alongside the right flank of the basilica that is reserved for the archpriest, said the former official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
''It's the classical Roman apartment with frescoes on the wall,'' the former official said. Cardinal Furno paid for costly renovations, he said, adding, ''It's endless.''
The appointment is also likely to make Cardinal Law one of the most influential Americans in the Vatican.
And the job will give him considerable autonomy. While at the Maryland convent, he was technically under the authority of the local bishop. Now, ''he answers to no one but the pope,'' the former Vatican official said.
To say that "Rome apoligizes
To say that "Rome apoligizes for the wrong thing" is very misleading. It's not "Rome", but the Archbishop. If you're going to make that type of statement you need to be more explicit about who is make what statement.
Watch out for that plank in
Watch out for that plank in your eye, Bishop Burke!!
I would ask Burke and other
I would ask Burke and other like minded Bishops, "What would Jhrist do?"
Probbably shouldnt ask that
Probbably shouldnt ask that question. He might reply "whatever I tell him to do".
Archbishop Burke again.
Archbishop Burke again. Haven't we heard enough from this man ensconced in a palace in Rome. Let us hope that he is kept busy being the prefect. His job description is very impressive.
He is now the consummate bureaucrat involved in no way in pastoral duties.
"The Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura is the highest judicial authority in the Catholic Church besides the Pope himself, who is the supreme ecclesiastical judge. In addition, it is an administrative office for matters pertaining to the judicial activity of the whole Church.
Appeals in standard judicial processes, if appealed to the Apostolic See, normally are not handled by the Signatura. Those go to the Tribunal of the Roman Rota, which is the ordinary appellate tribunal of the Apostolic See. The Supreme Tribunal handles some of the more specialized kinds of cases, including the following:
Petitions for a declaration of nullity against a Rotal decision;
Conflicts of jurisdiction between two or more tribunals or dicasteries,
Recourse against the legitimacy of administrative acts of ordinaries and dicasteries (including some penal cases decided without using a court),
Whereas a Rotal decision could be appealed to a different turnus, or panel, of the Rota, unless it is a firmly decided matter (a res iudicata), there is no right of appeal from the decision of the Signatura (CIC, c. 1629, §1).
As an administrative office, it exercises jurisdiction (vigilance) over all the tribunals of the Catholic Church. It can also extend the jurisdiction of tribunals, grant dispensations for procedural laws, establish interdiocesan tribunals, and correct advocates."
The fact that Burke has ANY
The fact that Burke has ANY authority in the Church is scary. This man shouldn't even be in charge of building a sand castle, let alone the Roman Rota. The Church's motto, "If a Bishop screws up one job, promote him to a better one." I pray he doesn't get a red-hat someday - that the Holy Spirit could intercede in this one and spare us this man have a voice and vote in a future pope.
Amen, jstab1, Burke should
Amen, jstab1,
Burke should even have a post catching dogs (I, for one, would be rooting
for the dogs if he did).
Archbishop Burke affirms
Archbishop Burke affirms Kolbean theology .So does SSPX
All Graces from Jesus come to us through Our Lady, All Hindus, Jews, Muslims and others need to enter the Catholic Church for salvation, and only an ecumenism of return, the Polish apologist taught.
In an extraordinary, rare interview for a bishop in Rome, Archbishop Raymond Burke, affirmed the teachings of the Polish saint Maximillian Maria Kolbe.
Inside the Vatican has carried the report by Andrew Rabal, Australian ITV correspondent. The interview was also the first-lead report on the website Spirit Daily (June 16, 2009 See Archives Vatican official calls U.S apparition ‘beautiful devotion’).
Archbishop Raymond Burke, Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura in Rome ‘the office which oversees the correct administration of justice in the Church’ says he was ‘very steeped in the whole spirituality of the Immaculate Heart of Mary as the way to the Sacred Heart of Jesus...’
St. Maximillian Kobe was also a journalist and founded an apologetic publication which taught that all people needed Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water for salvation. He also taught an ecumenism of return; the need for all Christians to enter the Catholic Church for salvation.
St.Maximillian said
"There is no greater enemy of the Immaculata and her Knighthood than today’s ecumenism, which every Knight must not only fight against, but also neutralize through diametrically opposed action and ultimately destroy. We must realize the goal of the Militia Immaculata as quickly as possible: that is, to conquer the whole world, and every individual soul which exists today or will exist until the end of the world, for the Immaculata, and through her for the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus." -The Immaculata Our Ideal, p. 37 (From the website Athanasius Contra Mundi).
‘In fact, Cardinal Kasper is on record as disparaging the traditional Catholic teaching on Christian Unity. He said in 2001, “Today we no longer understand ecumenism in the sense of a return, by which the others would 'be converted' and return to being 'Catholics.' This was expressly abandoned at Vatican II.”(7)-from the website Ecumenical Chapel at St. Paul Outside the Walls by John Vennari .’
Ad Gentes Vatican Council II says that ALL people, need Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water for salvation.So does the SSPX.No where in Nostra Aetate is it said that Jews do not have to convert. The SSPX does not hold the present Jews responsibible for the death of Jesus.
The SSPX rejects Vatican Council II as interpreted by the Jewish Left, the National Catholic Reporter,USA and The Tablet,UK.
They accept Vatican Council II as a historical reality.
They accept only an ecumenism of return,like Kolbe and Pope John Paul II (Ut Unum Sint, Ecclesia Dei,N.35, 36, 37, 38, 46,Dominus Iesus).
So if doctrine is said to be an issue for their separation then Cardinal Kaspar is in schism. Since in the L'Osservatore Romano (10July 2009) he wrote Jews do not have to convert. The SSPX is in accord with Vatican Council II , Cardinal Raymond Burke, Cardinal Castrillion Hoyes, Catholic religious communities and those who interpret Vatican Council II as a continuation of Sacred Tradition.
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