Forgiveness for sex abuse doesn't come cheap

Perhaps you saw the recent PBS series on forgiveness or read the related book by the director, Helen Whitney, Forgiveness: A Time to Love, a Time to Hate.

Both are clear-eyed, moving, even disturbing looks at how to understand forgiveness.

Since seeing the series and reading the book I’ve thought about the role of forgiveness in the priest abuse scandal within the Catholic Church. At one time I might have said, simply (and simplistically), that I think it’s everyone’s obligation to forgive and move on. I’d have said that out of my Reformed Tradition (Presbyterian) theology, and no doubt I could have said sincere words to justify it theologically.

But I’m pretty sure now that’s the wrong answer. In fact, I’m increasingly convinced that forgiveness is so complicated that it can be downright dangerous.

Oh, when possible forgiveness -- and, later, even reconciliation -- is desirable, that should be our goal. But if we don’t appreciate the complexities of forgiveness we can quite easily injure already injured people even more.

As I think aloud here about victims of predatory priests, I want to be cautious because I have been neither a victim nor a perpetrator. So although I can empathize with victims and try to grasp what might drive perpetrators, I do so as someone outside the circle of pain and humiliation.

What I do see, however, is that no one but the victim has a right to offer forgiveness to the criminal. I cannot, for instance, be the one to offer forgiveness to the thief who broke into my neighbor’s house. I also now see that forgiveness can’t be received if the perpetrator has not done the required preparatory work.

Beyond that, it takes an enormous amount of work on the part of the victim to be able to get to a point at which offering forgiveness is even possible.

That’s why I and some of the people interviewed in the PBS series and the book were so uncomfortable with the instant forgiveness that the Amish community offered to the man who murdered five Amish girls at a school in Nickel Mines, Pa., in 2006.

Indeed, once one understood the foundational motive for that immediate forgiveness (the German Lutheran martyr Dietrich Bonhoeffer called such forgiveness “cheap grace”) the act became even more problematic. That’s because the Amish understood that if they didn’t forgive, they themselves would not be forgiven by God and that would jeopardize their chances for an eternal relationship with God.

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A harsh way of putting it is that they didn’t forgive as an act of charity but as an act of self-interest.

In the case of the priest abuse scandal, however, something even more complicated is at work. For not only must forgiveness be a transaction between the victim and perpetrator, it necessarily would somehow need to involve the whole church. It was the church, after all, that created the circumstances under which this abuse was possible.

It was, for instance, the terrible actions of bishops who avoided the issue by moving some of the perpetrators around from one parish or diocese to another without alerting anyone about the offending priest. So somehow the leaders of the church must become part of the forgiveness process -- and, indeed, we have seen some efforts by church leaders to take on the responsibility to express regret and seek forgiveness, though that process has struck me as incomplete or haphazard.

No doubt there are victims of various crimes who find it easier to hold on to their wounds, even treasuring them. But this is an indication of ineffectual healing and not final proof of a twisted and recalcitrant nature of the wounded party. In such cases, it’s incumbent on the perpetrators to try harder to warrant forgiveness.

Forgiveness can and should be liberating, but not if we do it on the cheap. In the end, there’s no iPhone app for it.

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Could you please report on

Could you please report on the 2,812 confirmed cases of clergy sex abuse by Presbyterian ministers as of 2007 and how well the forgiveness process is going there? Since the 2006 statistics for Presbyterian Church USA report 21,360 clergy, that would be an offending rate of 13%. But then I'm sure you've been reporting that story all along, right?

Clergy are weird. Stay away

Clergy are weird. Stay away from them, period. People who claim to talk to someone invisible and demand payment for it are not fit companions for children.

Belinda, what a cheap shot

Belinda, what a cheap shot comment!! If you want to throw around numbers, I tell you, multiply those of our offending Catholic holier than thou by 100, to arrive at more realistic numbers. I stand on that math by first hand experience. Read the article again, will you, if you want to comment on it in a fair manner, which you seem to be lacking.

Data are not a comment, they

Data are not a comment, they are data.

And they are not 'cheap', when they tell truths.

Mr Tammeus needs to take the log from his eye before casting it to other denominations.

I get your point, but I hate

I get your point, but I hate to see any criticism of Bill Tammeus on this web site as he is the only one honest enough to admit he's a Protestant. The rest lack the integrity to admit they are not Catholic.

What is your source for the

What is your source for the number of cases? Also, "cases" is not the same as the number of ministers involved for, as we know from the reports and studies, one offender is often involved in multiple situations.

Are these truly abuse cases, mostly involving children and youth, or sexual misconduct cases which could include consenting relationships between adults? One study from 2009 reports that “Clergy sexual misconduct of adults is far more widespread than clergy sexual abuse of children."

This is not to say that Protestant denominations have their act totally together. Various churches have ramped up their oversight, policies and training on this problem. The biggest difference may be that most Protestant churches are not administratively organized like the Catholic church. While it is horrendous that these abuses have occurred, the biggest failure is by the Catholic hierarchy in not recognizing it, addressing it, stopping it, and not placing the welfare of the victims before the image of the church. Since Protestant churches operate more independently, there is not the systemic failure that we find in the Catholic church. They are just not comparable, not matter how hard you try to do so.

1-hit KO Belinda. Thanks for

1-hit KO Belinda. Thanks for that perspective.

Oh please. This is not some

Oh please. This is not some 'us against them' kind of game. Try to display a little maturity, and deal with the topic being discussed.

Please name your source for

Please name your source for these statistics, Belinda. I want to check them.

Belinda does have a point:

Belinda does have a point: Protestant commentators are often guilty of the glass-house syndrome. That is, they can be harshly critical of the Catholic Church's track record while hardly mentioning the deplorable rates of abuse within their own denominations. The strength of her point is undercut, however, by the fact that the figure she cites is wildly inaccurate. Belinda seems to have derived her statistic from this webpage:

http://www.stopbaptistpredators.org/article07/child_sex_abuse_by_protest...

If that's the case (and, Belinda, please correct me if I'm wrong), 2,812 is NOT the confirmed cases of clergy sex abuse by Presbyterian ministers as of 2007; rather, 2,812 is the number of Presbyterian churches insured by a particular insurance company against the cost of a potential sex abuse claim. According to the same site, this insurance company, which insures roughly 96,000 Protestant clients, averages 160 sex abuse claims each year.

Look, I think many Protestant commentators need to do a better job of shining light on sex abuse in their own denominations. But, we shouldn't use faulty numbers to bring them to that point. I'll give Belinda the benefit of the doubt in this case: perhaps she was quickly fishing for a statistic and simply did not look closely enough at the numbers.

I totally agree that these

I totally agree that these crimes are the joint responsibility of the individual perpetrators and the administrative and fraternal cultures which have offered too little in the way of mutual accountability ("fraternal correction") and are offering too little in the way of truly restorative justice.

Tammeus is surely right to point out that this situation will not be remedied by "cheap" forgiveness.

There is now a copious literature on both "therapeutic communities" and "restorative justice" which could provide helpful correctives for the obvious flaws of the prevailing "clerical culture."

Ed Marnier, They have offered

Ed Marnier, They have offered no action against criminals in their rank until they were forced to!! Please remember that. Up to then, they were criminal conspirators, all of them. What they offer now, is as little as they can, in order not to incur more wrath of the faithful. It is all about shielding themselves. Of course Clohessy is correct.

I cannot understand

I cannot understand "Martha's" post as a reply to mine.

Perhaps I should make it clear that I think sexually abusive behavior by a cleric is criminal behavior, whatever else it might be. Such criminal behavior has immediate victims, those who were actually violated. But it also weakens and sometimes destroys the communities in which it takes place. In hierarchically structured communities, e.g., Catholicism, it undermines the credibility of, and trust in, leaders responsible for both priestly formation and priestly discipline. Mennonite views about Restorative Justice are most relevant here.

But what must be restored in these cases? By referencing the literature on Therapeutic Communities, and alluding to the ecclesiastical theme of Fraternal Correction, I meant to suggest a critique striking at the roots of "clerical culture" as I understand it.

Therapeutic Communities, more than a century old, were designed to provide the sick, and later, the addicted, with the collective wisdom of those confronted with and struggling to overcome similar problems.

Whatever the timeless merits of a celibate clergy, for at least the last 50 years those who take vows of chastity have been confronted by the same deep loosening of cultural mores concerning sexual behavior that led to the replacement of "Ozzie and Harriet" with "Desperate Houswives" in popular culture. Does anyone expect a reversal of this process in the wider culture? Is it, or is it not, the case that this process implies that erotic self-indulgence, like the abuse of intoxicants, is a "victimless crime."

The most sensible view of any form of addiction is that it is a disease of the whole person, and that it is best treated by membership in a community committed, from top to bottom, to compassionate and empathic (and one must add, non-homophobic) fraternal correction and mutual accountability. At root, it is the absence of evidence that such traditional practices are alive and well in the Catholic priesthood in America, that I find most disturbing.

I come to this discussion at the close of a decade devoted to the service of men returning to society after incarceration. I think the literature on reentry and recovery of convicted felons has something to offer to a wounded Catholicism. I mean no disrespect for, and intend no disagreement with, those who have spent that same interval advocating justice for the victims of sexual abuse by clergy.

Pace, Martha

I have forgiven the priest

I have forgiven the priest who molested me. I hope that every victim can do the same. I hope all those who’ve ever been hurt can forgive all the wrong-doers.

But it's about protection of the innocent, not about punishment of the guilty. The reason we lock up molesters is not vengeance, it's safety.

Most of these men are dangerous. They are shrewd, manipulative, skillful, and deceitful.

Unlike car jackers and muggers, they don't need or rely on physical prowess or speed to commit their crimes. They rely on their cunning.

Unlike pick-pockets and shoplifters, they don't become LESS able to commit their crimes as they get older. The become MORE able. . .because through experience they learn even better how to detect and seduce the vulnerable and cover up their crimes. Plus they have the advantage - with stooped shoulders, graying hair, soft voices - of seeming even more harmless than they may have seemed in their youth.

There's also a huge difference between public policy and personal choice. I can choose to forgive my predator. That's admirable. But I can't knowingly allow him the chance to hurt others. That's irresponsible.

If we allow a convicted drunken driver to get behind the wheel of a school bus filled with kids, is that forgiveness or folly?

David Clohessy, Director, SNAP, Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, (7234 Arsenal Street, St. Louis MO 63143), 314 566 9790 cell (SNAPclohessy@aol.com)

David, I generally respect

David,
I generally respect your writings and opinions but I take issue with one line in your post:

"I can choose to forgive my predator. That's admirable. But I can't knowingly allow him the chance to hurt others. That's irresponsible."

What's irresponsible is putting the burden for protecting others on the shoulders of the victimized children. You seem to be implying that "keeping quiet" or not reporting the abuser, as was the case with so many of those abused by priests, is equal to the bishops who "knowingly allowed him the chance to hurt others."

Perhaps I have misinterpreted your statement ~ I hope so.

By Oliver Clark, Job's Trust:

By Oliver Clark, Job's Trust: Why has almost no-one memtioned the responsibility of the parent to authorise education in sexuality and true love and then to maintain a continuous check, implying their control and supervision, on the methodology and content with which such education is imparted by those they have given their authorisation to be helped by in this education within the family (Cf. "The Truth and Meaning of Human Sexuality: Guidelines for Education Within the Family", Pontifical Council for the Family, 1995, 23-24,115, footnote 144).

Wow. This is food for

Wow. This is food for thought. And it's clear that you have done much thought on the subject. The scripture reading for today's Mass: "I am the light of the world." The priest gave the analogy of the world without the light of Christ is like being in a dark cave. Forgiveness is just one aspect of our complex life issues. Starting with prayer and LISTENING could be the way to go. Thinking we can easily know any of the answers will just get in the way. Today's column is a keeper.

Thank you for your comments,

Thank you for your comments,   Bill.     Even a surgical wound must have all of its layers heal properly,   not just the outward visible layer of skin.     Healing is a time-consuming process...   be it physical,   emotional or spiritual.     There are no 'on the cheap' one-size-fits-all shortcuts without risking even more serious problems down the road,   and an even larger residual scar for the wounded one.
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For the perpetrator of sexual assault and battery,   and their accomplices,   drive-thru forgiveness can become just another form of enabling.     In behavioral psychology and Operant Conditioning terms,   cheap forgiveness without accountability reinforces negative behaviors and increases the likelihood that those behaviors will recur.     No one benefits from that kind of distorted notion of "forgiveness" — for sure not those whose social and moral boundaries are already non-existent.
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I was thinking when I read

I was thinking when I read the title, I hope he doesn't ask us to just forgive the priests. It is so much more complicated. The chericalism in the Roman Catholic Church is not found in Protestant churches. It is that sense of entitlement and power that leads to abuse and coverup.

Society itself is changing that because there are more laws now to protect the child from physical and mental abuse. Children need to be regarded as full fledged people with thoughts of their own. The earlier thinking was to mold the child with discipline, and force ideas upon them. THe change now is to try to engage their minds and enlighten them with information. This is totally different. I am fortunate in that the schools I attended were progressive in that respect. They were public schools, not Catholic schools.

The Amish are correct in some

The Amish are correct in some ways, however. The Lord's Prayer contains the line, "forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us". In other words, we cannot expect forgiveness from God for our transgressions and sins, unless we are willing to extend that same forgiveness to those who harm us.

When Our Lord was crucified, as He hung upon the Cross, He prayed "Father, forgive them". True, He is God, but He is also man, and at that moment He was a man going through the worst imaginable human suffering; not only the suffering of the nails, the pain of the crucifixion, but the suffering of knowing all but one of His closest friends had abandoned Him and that one of those number had actually betrayed Him. He was alone, a man in agony, God, murdered and abandoned and betrayed by the very people He sought to help and save, and He forgave.

When St. Stephen was being stoned to death, as he was being stoned to death, he prayed that God would forgive his murderers. St. Thomas More, as he was about to be beheaded because of the unjust and illegal actions of his King, willingly forgave Henry, and all of his enemies.

When Blessed John Paul II was shot in 1981, he willingly forgave his attacker, even as he was being rushed to the hospital, even as he was barely conscious, he extended his forgiveness, his pardon, without hesitation or condition.

The key is developing an understanding of who and what we are. If we understand and appreciate the fact that we are all sinners, that each and every one of us stands in daily need of forgiveness, how much easier it becomes to forgive others. There is nothing "cheap" about the grace to forgive those who harm us, because the ability to do that requires us to have a genuine sense of humility -- a genuine appreciation for who we are as God's creatures, our role of absolute dependence upon Him and His grace and mercy, our need for forgiveness from God and from others around us.

Forgiveness, in my experience, becomes difficult when I hang on to my hurts, when I persist in my claims of innocence. Indeed, I may be very innocent when it comes to the business associate who stabs me in the back, but when I examine my life honestly and in humility, I recognize that I am not so innocent at all in my dealings with others. Thus do I understand that I am not some innocent person unjustly harmed, but rather a person who sins and transgresses in a myriad number of ways on a daily basis, a person who stands in just as much need of forgiveness for those sins, those transgressions, as the one who harmed me.

Further, as Catholics we understand that sin is not just individual, but corporate as well. This is why the Church requires us to confess our sins to a priest; the priest stands in Persona Christi, in the Person of Christ, and when we confess our sins, the priest represents not only the person we sinned against, but also the Church and Christ Himself. The priest then absolves us from our sins in the Name of Christ and in the name of the Church and the person we harmed. When a priest abuses a child, he harms not only the child, but also the Church, and it is not only the child but also the Church that must forgive him.

Finally, the author says, "I also now see that forgiveness can’t be received if the perpetrator has not done the required preparatory work". This ultimately is a matter for the perpetrator, it is not up to us to decide when he or she is ready to receive forgiveness. All that matters is that we are ready to forgive. In my experience, that simple act, a person I have sinned against saying to me "I forgive you", has been enough to bring about a conversion of my own heart.

Forgiveness is difficult and it takes a lot out of us, forces us to embrace true humility. It is also absolutely necessary if we are to claim to be followers of Christ.

CWG so much of what you

CWG so much of what you write I can endorse. Having the humility and capacity to forgive and let go of bitterness is healing for the victim and hopefully for the transgressor. In cases of child sexual abuse, the landscape becomes murkier. Because of the age of the victims there is often a stunting of development. The wound is so deep and affects the soul, mind and body to an extent that forgiveness is an act only possible on some other planet. That violated child grows physically into an adult but the energy to just live and maintain him or herself is all -encompassing. Forgiveness isn't even on the map. Trust, love, the ability to establish intimate relationships have gone out the window. I have seen it and it is not pretty. The victim needs to be loved, affirmed and supported above all else and given no lectures on forgiving.

I can agree with most of your

I can agree with most of your comments, but I suggest that one needs to keep in mind that when a child is abused and traumatized, the forgiveness becomes a different process and most likely a much more difficult and complex problem. Your explanation of understanding our sinful states etc requires a pretty adult and mature understanding. Traumatization, as an emotional/pscyhological process can often end in some for of arrested development which takes time to overcome without some therapeutic help. If the victims don't have the means to have access therapy then it is even more problematic to reach the ability to forgive.

It's crazy to think that the

It's crazy to think that the priest in a confession can "represent the person we sinned against" Why not just apologize to the person you sinned against? In today's world... you can find people... write a note and speak directly to them... a much more powerful act.

Earlier today I posted this

Earlier today I posted this elsewhere:

"I think it depends how we understand forgiveness, and not everyone does in the same way. "Forgive and forget" might be fine for minor things which will be forgotten pretty easily, but does not apply to serious trangressions. Forgiveness doesn't mean condoning or minimizing the seriousness of a transgression or crime. The way I understand it it is to choose not to let the offender continue to have control over my life by making me live with anger, bitterness and thoughts of revenge. Forgiveness is for our own sake regardless if the offender asks for it or not. I can only hope and pray that offenders come to realize what they have done, the pain they have caused, accept their punishment and make amends wherever possible."

Here should be added that in the case of abuse, all measures need to be taken to prevent the perpetrator from repeating the abuse.

I think there is self-interest that is necessary and good.
I wouldn't judge the Amish for inappropriate self-interest. Victims of abuse need to seek healing for their own sake primarily, not for the benefit of the offender.

At one time I might have

At one time I might have said, simply (and simplistically), that I think it’s everyone’s obligation to forgive and move on.

The first part of the sentiment must be examined in concert with the second part, and then the motives behind it must be considered.

As an advocate for abuse survivors for more than a decade, I have on many occasions heard what I've come to called "the f-word" uttered by pious-sounding individuals when they are called upon to respond to allegations of abuse by priests and religious, often their peers or their subordinates.

In virtually all of these cases, I have been left with the distinct impression that the "move on" part, and in the first person, is more the concern. In other words "This makes me uncomfortable; it disturbs the tranquility of my world; You (or the victim) should forgive and move on."

What is left out is "...because that would be most convenient for me."

Funny how often "Christian charity" aligns with the convenience of those with power and who, called upon to respond to survivor's interests, isn't it?

I have forgiven the priest

I have forgiven the priest who sexually molested me for six months when I was a young teenager. However, I cannot forget the suicidal ideation that permeated my teen years and the nightmares that occur to this day. Forgiving is relatively easy. Forgetting is another story. When I finally addressed the abuse to the now bishop of the diocese where I grew up, I could not have found a more humble and compassionate person. If I didn't have such an incredibly understanding wife who gently encouraged me to talk with our pastor,I wouldn't be writing this. If it wasn't the extraordinary care and counseling of my pastor, I would not be stepping foot in a Catholic church today.
Frankly, the author puts a lot of stock into "forgiving." Having a fond attraction for the Amish, I can fully understand their powerful forgiveness for the man who murdered those children. To imply that this was self-serving was rather judgmental and uncaring because I can assure you that they have not forgotten. I can assure you that when they think of those children, their heart is wrenched with pain and the tears will always be there.

PT

I think it is reasonable to

I think it is reasonable to assert that forgiveness includes an anticipation of repentance on the part of the one being forgiven. And that repentance is nowhere in sight in the Roman Catholic church. Part of the anguishing dilemma is that these are crimes with roots in profound narcissism. The narcissist simply believes that he/she is exempt because it't THEM! An added challenge is that narcissism has been rewarded in the RC church and promotions have been part of the reward. There's a lot of narcissists who get to wear miters and carry staffs. I think I forgive them to the extent that I recognize their very crooked perspective and stay away from their crooked thinking. At least I know what they are and cannot take them seriously as successors of the Apostles. Please!

"I also now see that

"I also now see that forgiveness can’t be received if the perpetrator has not done the required preparatory work."

Yes, but it is the perpetrator who is the loser not the victim. It took me 32 years to come to grips with what happened to me. It allowed me to take control and lose the fear and guilt that had dogged me for most of my childhood and my adult life till then. It wasn't until then that I was ready to forgive. I didn't need him there, I didn't need for him to apologize; in fact, I have not even seen him in 30 years.

But the author is correct, the perpetrator could not receive my forgiveness; that is his loss, not mine. It really did not matter to me that he could not receive my forgiveness. It was liberating for me to forgive and I would not have put that off in order to wait for him to be ready to receive my forgiveness. If I had not forgiven him, the wound would have continued to fester and it had already festered long enough.

I did report him to the police department. There is no statute of limitations on what he did to me. The police told me that proving it so many years after the fact would be nearly impossible; but they did inform him that I filed a complaint. How many other kids were violated by this guy? I will never know. Hopefully, my reporting him will make him think twice.

I'm a little disappointed

I'm a little disappointed that you failed to post my response to Mr. Clohessy yesterday. Apparently differing opinions have no place in this discussion.

The problem is the inability

The problem is the inability of the Roman Catholic Church heirarchy to admit error in any significant way. That arrogance perpetuates the atmosphere which is at work. From celibacy to male domination to human sexuality, the Church I spent 50 years in has never allowed questioning since the days of Pope John XXIII. Indeed, it blames the current "problem" on that era as a way of regretting the momentary "Roman spring" which almost led to dismantling of some of the Vatican's walls against reality.

I suspect the root of the problem is one of infallibility; if the Pope is infallible, then any potential Pope (Cardinal, Archbishop or bishop) feels he is potentially the successor to Peter and was born infallible as well?

The church, Catholic and

The church, Catholic and Protestant alike, has a long history of telling victims, usually women and children, to forgive abuse by usually male family members and clergy--all without justice for past offenses or even protection from ongoing abuse. This is itself abusive of victims and fails to show true compassion for perpetrators by calling them to Gospel healing and repentance. As a survivor of clergy sexual abuse I have myself been retraumatized pressure to forgive an unrepentant abuser--including cruel and groundless threats that my emotional healing will never happen if I don't, and/or that God will not forgive my sins if I don't. Luckily I can stand up to this since I know that this is not Jesus' model of forgiveness enunciated most clearly in Luke 17:3-4: "So watch yourselves. If your brother [or sister] sins, rebuke [them], and if they repent, forgive them. If they sin against you seven times in a day, and seven times come back to you and says, 'I repent,' forgive them." I do however obey Jesus' call to pray for my enemies including the conversion and healing of the perpetrator, a married Protestant pastor who was my theology professor at Santa Clara University (which refused to take appropriate action when I reported it). Forgiveness is natural and healthy when the offense has been stopped and the damage healed by restitution -- in the most common scriptural metaphors, the debt has been paid or the slave has been freed -- either by the perpetrator himself or by the community offering compassion and justice and healing to the victim in his stead. When it is pushed without justice, healing, and repentance it is a "spiritual bypass" encouraging victims to suppress their appropriate anger and pain and stops real healing. Just as in the sacrament of Reconciliation only those who repent, cease their sin, and make amends are offered forgiveness we should hold the same standards for perpetrators and model them ourselves by thorough repentance and real amends for our own sins. The 12 Step movement has much to teach Christianity about this issue.

Mark Matson, president of

Mark Matson, president of DignityUSA, abused Gospel forgiveness in the same way by adducing it in a Dayton Daily News article (http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/ex-priest-tied-to-child-...) to minimize his and Dignity Dayton's gross malfeasance in knowingly allowing Ellis Harsham, a notorious pedophile suspended from RC ministry, to celebrate mass for ten years. They have no right to "forgive" Ellis for abusing children and causing them a lifetime of hell, which I have experienced myself from clergy sexual abuse as a college student--especially when he has denied or minimized his behavior and refused to accept the appropriate consequences of losing his priestly role for it. Only the victims have that right (or, sacramentally, a confessor who carries out his or her responsibility by refusing absolution unless real repentance has been demonstrated by truthful, sincere apologies and concrete restitution like paying for therapy). And, as David Clohessy points out, even if forgiveness happens they have no right to follow it up by endangering more potential victims and retraumatizing survivors by showing no concern for their anguish. Please visit my blog http://stjuniatheapostle.blogspot.com for extensive coverage of Dignity's lies and coverups including a fake resignation that implies he has left but leaves Harsham eligible to copreside, preach, cantor etc. as well as worship and attend social events without appropriate safety precautions for someone with a substantiated allegation of child sexual abuse. And please blog, write or call Dignity, etc.--only public pressure will complete the reforms at both Dignity Dayton and DignityUSA, which should include the resignation of Matson and local Dignity leadership complicit in the coverup esp. Dignity Dayton priests Fr. Dick Young, Fr. Tom Stricker, and Tom's wife Ms. Patty Stricker as board VP. DignityUSA also needs to improve its policy to require presiders to step down for credible, not just substantiated, allegations; to require that they step down from all public ministry in the community and not just main presider; and to require safety precautions if they remain as ordinary members. To do otherwise endangers children in LGBT and ally families and delays the day of real healing and healthy forgiveness of for survivors of clergy sexual abuse.

I took the time to look up

I took the time to look up your suggested site:
The lies re-resignations is not unusual. Diminished responsability due to impaired mental faculties with top Catholic legal counsels running with it is another.
I recall one priest who had held his vulnerable victim to ransom, terrifing her spiritualy for years, claiming same so I paid him a visit with police documents containing charges and the reminder of a fellow priest with charges laid against him dying suddenly, he changed his attitude and gave himself a lifeline to meet his maker with at least one yoke less around his neck.
How can one blame the priest for not pleading guilty with not God breathing down his neck, but the power of the hierarchy and I think that's a fair question.

I often think that when we

I often think that when we talk of forgiveness, what we mean is that we will not seek active vengeance on perpetrators of wrongs towards us or those close to us. I also think that is what our Christian faith requires of us, just as when Jesus tells us to love our enemies, he doesn't expect us to make bosom buddies of them, but simply asks us to wish them no harm and not to seek retribution.

Please leave Bonhoeffer out

Please leave Bonhoeffer out of this. You don't understand Dietrich Bonhoeffer any more than you understand pedophilia. That's not at all what Bonhoeffer meant by "cheap grace." Bonhoeffer called "cheap grace" the self-absolution of sinners by appeal to a gospel that makes forgiveness cheap. He did not mean Christ-like forgiving others, as Jesus did on the cross, after the resurrections, etc. If you don't know what you're talking about, say so, but don't quote Bonhoeffer to support ideas he would have rejected as foreign to the gospel and his own thinking. The idea that only the victim can forgive someone is alien to the gospel, which asks us to see ourselves linked to one another and in need of both mutual love and forgiveness. How in God's name did you get a job writing about Christianity?

Why is it that some articles

Why is it that some articles arrive in my e-mail with many replies posted and other articles that arrived a day or more ago, have no replies at all ?

I think this article about forgiveness as it relates to the problem of clerical sexual abuse is worth thinking about, despite some of the not so nice comments that are already posted. I think forgiveness is complicated and personal. How can we fault someone else's way of extending forgiveness ? It might be that forgiveness comes in stages....or layers. The older you get the deeper one understands the hurt and perhaps understands the person who did the hurting. I remember clearly during a therapy session, when the psychiatrist made one single, well placed remark that allowed me to understand and it was not easy to "hear" the message contained in that well placed remark. It did lead me to the ability to forgive. It was not a forgiveness the way that Jesus taught, or the way I understood Jesus' teaching on forgiveness. All I can say is that it just happened, after years of being tormented by this hurt that happened to me, after years of trying to forgive. I call it "grace"....in my case it was not cheap, I would say that it came at a price.

Thank you Bill for the column

Thank you Bill for the column on forgiveness. At this time in our Church we should be having more conversations about such issues. Victims has taught me that forgiveness is a journey for them not a destination. I do not believe that anyone has the right to seek forgiveness from the victim - as you said forgiveness canbe dangerous. It does take an extreme amount of work on the partof the victim - hence the concept of journey - to get to the point of forgiveness. But it also requires a tremedous amount of community/church responsibility also. As a faith community we are responsible for ensuring that the appropriate services and interventions are available to victims so that they can attempt to heal. I have seen the power of forgiveness in terms of the impact that it has on the victim - the giver of the forgiveness.
Creating space and opportunity for victims to heal gives them the space and opportunity to forgive.

Mary Achilles
Victim Services Consultant
Archdiocese of Philadelphia

I was not abused by a priest,

I was not abused by a priest, but by another. Let me offer my perspective: Along with therapy and support of friends, I prayed every day for over 30 years this way "God, I can't forgive yet. It's in your hands. Someday I want to be able to forgive, help me." ( I knew it was necessary to MY healing.) And one day I realized that I was beginning to forgive, bit by bit. But forgive and forget? It's forgive and remember or there will be no lasting change. We must never forget (as if we could.) And, yes, the priest/bishop scandal is worse than a loner church on the corner, because it is so intertwined with a sick, sick hierarchial system. And let us Never tell someone else who was victimized how they "should" heal. You don't have a real clue. Amen.

I am fascinated with all the

I am fascinated with all the replies posted to this interesting article. But regardless of how you may view it, it has generated some profound and insightful remarks.

One point remains not fully discussed: The criminal punishment of these priests and bishops who are perpetrators of these crimes is not fully discussed. Christ told the apostles to "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's." When a priest or religious (who is a citizen of the State--Caesar) commits a criminal act against a child (a citizen) it becomes a crime AGAINST THE STATE. The first response to the crime is to REPORT IT TO THE STATE and not the Church.

It is the RESPONSIBILITY of the State to act and see that justice is done. This not only applies to the thief (or priest) who robs the store, but to his accomplice (the bishop or superior) who sits out in the get-away-car and drives him away. They both are held accountable for the crime under the law.

The State (state and local governments) has not bellied up to the bar and done its duty. Often its because it's being intimidated by the Church, I've seen this pattern in the Illinois State Legislature and our Chicago city government. Catholics in power don't want to get on the bad side of the Cardinal.

There was a bill in our legislature a couple of years ago that would have extended the window that held pedophiles accountable for a longer period of time. But the Cardinal's expensive law firms lobbied the legislature to have it killed before it came to a vote.

The hierarchy still clings to the midlevel concept that they are a law unto themselves; even when it comes to criminal acts perpetuated by their priests and religious. Christ told them in person that “it just wasn't so." But forget what that guy said. They’ll "rationalize" and "obfuscate” his words until they are meaningless.

The Church Militant is not a power unto itself. But of course, if the State moves to hold the hierarchy accountable, they'll cry they are being persecuted.

Many thoughtful responses are

Many thoughtful responses are given above on the question that deals with an adult person's forgiveness of grave injury or offense. Many abused as children are now trying as adults to deal with and move past the horrors they experienced as children. It might be worth remembering that in Jesus' discussion of the harm done to a CHILD, He said that a millstone should be placed on the neck of the abuser and they should be thrown into the sea. I do not know of any other time Jesus recommended a death sentence and no forgiveness was suggested for those who harm CHILDREN.

As a survivor of clergy abuse

As a survivor of clergy abuse I agree that forgiveness is a complicated issue. I never chose to seek an admission of guilt from my perpetrator - I feared further emotional damage from any communication with him. What I chose to do was to enter into a process of understanding what led him to abuse me, why he needed to control me. As I moved through my own struggle to forgive him, I came to understand that if I didn't come to forgive I would be left with a persistent state of unforgiveness in my soul that would eat away at me for years. So ultimately it became a question of, do I want to live with this boiling point in me forever or do I want to forgive and move on. it's not an easy process, but really what is easy in life. Ultimately, I am glad I am at that point now. I don't know how the God of our understanding will deal with those who hurt others in the end - but I know I trust that I can live with a deeper peace.

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