The Galilee 72

I've been traveling across the country these past five months, preaching, leading retreats and giving lectures to all sorts of people about the life and spirituality of peace. Granted, it's an unusual way to spend one's days. I get the impression that most folks find my "peace project" quaint. Of course, I get attacked by the left and the right. On occasion someone tells me I'm wasting my time. Church authorities regularly ban me from their precincts. One Trappist monk told me I've undertaken "a hopeless cause, but a noble one."

For me, however, the mission of peace is something entirely different. I expect it to be about as "effective" as going to Mass, sitting in silent prayer, or visiting the sick. In other words, it makes all the difference!

Lately, I have been returning to a favorite Gospel episode to learn more about this mission on which Jesus sends us. Given the slow downfall of the institutional church, the nation and the world, perhaps more of us need to return to this scene and undertake similar experiments in public peacemaking.

Luke's Gospel portrays the life of the nonviolent Jesus, I suggest, as one long permanent peace campaign. He walks through the countryside, announces God's reign of peace, expels the demons of imperial violence and heals those in need. His very presence is disarming, healing, peacemaking. One morning, after the disciples have searched far and wide for him, he says he must move on "to the other towns, to proclaim the good news of the reign of God, because for this purpose I have been sent"(Luke 4:43). In his "Sermon on the Plain," he teaches them his way of peace, love and nonviolence, then explains how John the Baptist fulfilled that mission to prepare a way for him.

Then, in Luke 9:1-10, he sends 12 disciples out on the mission of peace, to do the work he has been doing -- expelling the demons of imperial violence, healing the sick and announcing God's reign. Take nothing for the journey, and stay wherever you are welcomed, he instructs them. They go on their way "proclaiming the good news and curing diseases everywhere." When they return, he takes them off to a quiet place where they can rest and reflect together on their experience.

Apparently, they did a good job. He was so encouraged by their work, he decides to up the ante and broaden the campaign. When someone approaches and asks to become his follower, he says, "Go and proclaim the reign of God" (Luke 9:60).

Then, in Luke 10:1-20, he gathers "seventy two" unnamed disciples and sends them out in pairs ahead of him to announce God's reign, heal the sick, expel the demons and invite everyone into his new life of peace.

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Imagine sending 36 teams of nonviolence trainers into the war-torn countryside to invite people out of war, poverty and empire into the new life of loving nonviolence! Jesus is not just a community organizer or a movement builder; he's a nonviolent general who commands a nonviolent army. Instead of waging war, he wages peace. He sends them out to disarm everyone, dismantle the empire, and lead humanity into the peace of God's reign. He mobilizes an astonishing campaign of active nonviolence, an authentic peace movement -- right there on the edge of a brutal empire.

Just as Mahatma Gandhi organized the 1930 Salt March (with 79 trained nonviolent resisters) and Dr. King organized the 1963 Birmingham Campaign (with trained nonviolent high school students), Jesus gives specific instructions for his satyagraha campaign.

"Go on your way!" he begins. Note the imperative: Get going! Go forth and make peace! In Matthew he says, "Be wise as serpents and innocent as doves" -- which means there are times when we get to "coo," but times when we need to "hiss." Here, he says simply: "Behold, I am sending you like lambs among wolves."

What an image! Jesus sends us into the world of war, greed and violence as peaceful, gentle, unarmed, nonviolent people. We are to be as vulnerable and harmless as lambs.

But stay with his image. Imagine a little lamb surrounded by a pack of wolves. That's Jesus' description of the peacemaker's life! What can we expect when we go forth to make peace? To be eaten alive!

This has been my experience. Yes, I've met many nonviolent peacemakers and been well received here and there, but I have also found myself surrounded by a pack of wolves that growl, show their teeth and seem ready to pounce.

The problem for me and most of us is that we forget our "lamb" nature and think we have to become wolves in order to transform the other wolves. That is not the way of the Good Shepherd, the Lamb of God.

Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing, Jesus says elsewhere. If we undertake this painful mission of peacemaking in a culture of war, we need to be lambs in lambs' clothing, not wolves in sheep's clothing. We need to get rid of the violence within, the roots of war and empire that lurk inside us. Since we are all addicted to violence, perhaps it's better to say: we need to befriend our inner "wolf" and disarm him. We need to participate in our own inner disarmament and cultivate our true nonviolent nature if we are going to enter the culture of violence, meanness and militarism and offer a real gift of peace and disarmament. The goal, we remember, is that the lion -- and the wolf -- will lie down with the lamb. Neither kills nor is killed.

The details of the mission are astonishing: Take nothing for the journey -- no money, no sack, no sandals -- and greet no one on the way. When we remember that he's sending his followers into the Galilean countryside where the Roman death squads roam around, on the prowl to steal, rape, pillage and kill -- then his admonition makes perfect sense. He's organizing an underground movement. His advice is practical. They have to be on alert, ready to go.

Their mission is to proclaim peace, bring peace, make peace, and transform the world into God's peace. "When you enter a house, say: 'Peace to this household,' he explains. "If a peaceful person lives there, your peace will rest on him … Eat and drink what they serve, and do not move about. Cure the sick and announce the reign of God. Say, 'The reign of God is at hand for you.' If they reject you, shake off the dust from that town, but repeat, 'The reign of God is at hand.' Whoever listens to you, listens to me; whoever rejects you, rejects me and the One who sent me."

Every word should be about peace. When we speak, we engage in the spiritual conversation that "makes for peace." We try to make people feel at peace, to be a peaceful presence in their midst, to affirm their peace, and to lead people deeper into God's peace in their own lives, even in their own homes. By being calm, peaceful, and nonviolent, he suggests, we offer a healing gift.

I think this gift is needed everywhere today -- in every heart, every house, every nation. We are all being ground under the wheels of war, greed and empire. Worse, we Christians seem hell-bent on a mission of war. The insane mass murderer in Norway claimed to be a devout Christian. And Christians kill children in Iraq and Afghanistan, and make nuclear weapons in Los Alamos and Oak Ridge. We have become wolves sent out by the Pentagon into the midst of lambs.

The Galilee 72 apparently fulfilled their mission. They returned, we're told, "rejoicing." Not only were they able to help others become more nonviolent and peaceful, they found the experience of peacemaking consoling. They were filled with joy.

If we do God's work of public peacemaking, we learn here, we will be filled with the Holy Spirit of peace and joy. This rings true. Despite the rejection and persecution one can face for denouncing war, greed and nuclear weapons, this work offers deep inner joy and spiritual consolation.

Jesus' reaction is even more amazing. "I observed Satan fall like lightning from the sky," he tells them. Satan is always a codeword, in my book, for empire. Peace movement-building erodes the culture of war, greed and empire, then and now. His campaign of nonviolence was the beginning of the end of the Roman Empire.

"Behold, I have given you power," he tells them. "Nothing will harm you... Rejoice because your names are written in heaven." What a promise! We have been given power. Gandhi best understood this teaching. He often told the poor of India that they had more power than the British Empire in all its glory. He described active nonviolence as a power "more powerful than all the weapons of the world combined" -- if only we dared to use it. If we claim it, practice it, and live it, we can trust that our survival is already guaranteed. Nothing can truly hurt us. More, we can rejoice because we are known in God's reign of peace.

After affirming the 72, we're told, "At that moment, Jesus rejoiced in the Holy Spirit…" It is one of the only occasions in the Gospel where Jesus is filled with joy. That outcome alone was worth their effort.

Why do we hear so little today about the Galilee 72? Who were they? What became of them? Why don't we honor and emulate them? Don't we want to fulfill the mission of peace, have our names written in heaven, and make Jesus rejoice?

St. Francis took this passage to heart. He saw his life as a long peacemaking mission, and tried to send his brothers and sisters out on that mission. Perhaps we need to experiment with this text, too, and head out into the world with the gift of peace.

Given the horrors of our world, the demise of the institutional church, our nation, and the environment, this Gospel story offers a way forward. I think Jesus is still looking to send people on the mission of disarming nonviolence. We might ask ourselves, "How has my life fulfilled that mission of peace? How can I take up this mission of peace today? How is Jesus sending us as nonviolent peacemaking lambs into the midst of wolves to announce the good news of peace and practice nonviolence, so that we might all dwell together in God's reign of peace?"

We have been given great power. No harm will come to us. The old ways of empire are falling. Our names are being written in heaven. Rejoice, and get going!

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[Editor's Note: John Dear's column is on a summer schedule and will be posted every other week through early August.]

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John has captured the Gospel

John has captured the Gospel message in this column. Loving God, loving neighbor---that's what Jesus calls us to do.

John - this statement on the

John - this statement on the Galilee Troops 72 really touched me deeply and reinvigorated my hopefully non-violent vow in this regard. You are in my prayers daily that you have the wisdom and strength to continue your great mission.
Are you sure you are a Jesuit and not Franciscan???

Fr. John Dear is on the

Fr. John Dear is on the narrow path to peace, the nearly untraveled road to God. The ultimate challenge in life is to choose harmony over conflict. Most everything we do can be boiled down to that choice. Said differently, we need to heal rather than hurt; we need to bring peace rather than pain.

Amen!

Amen!

"This has been my experience.

"This has been my experience. Yes, I've met many nonviolent peacemakers and been well received here and there, but I have also found myself surrounded by a pack of wolves that growl, show their teeth and seem ready to pounce." So everyone who disagrees with you is a wolf? You live in a very egocentric universe. And if Luke's version of Jesus was so accurate, why didn't Mark or Matthew know about it? The simple fact is that this is the theology of, not Jesus, but the Lukan community living fifty years after Jesus died.

thanks for this course

thanks for this course correction and model and indication of the pilgrimage we must each pass following Jesus. I just remember him sitting and eating with prostitutes and sinners, the outcast, the forgotten, the rejected, and really love this ministry, which heals myself as much as anyone else, and recommend it to everyone, as did Jesus, and just make certain this is real.

as the onion parody recently mentioned in an NCRonline article here, it's really not weird at all . . .

but life giving, as love.

Gratitude-as always--to John

Gratitude-as always--to John Dear for this bold proclamation of our call to peacemaking! Never more needed than now.

You keep crying out in the

You keep crying out in the wilderness but some of us are listening.

If, as that Trappist monk

If, as that Trappist monk said, the "peace project" is a "hopeless but noble cause", then humankind is, at last, bereft of all hope. Because, as I see it, the nonviolent Gospel of Jesus is our only hope. Everything that we humans have put our "faith" in--money, nationalism, institutional religion, is, along with the natural environment, going down the drain. Bob Dylan said it: "When you ain't got nothin', you got nothin' to lose." I'm ready to roll the dice. What have we got to lose?

Maybe they got so much done

Maybe they got so much done because they didn't have a persecution complex. No one is out to get you. We just want you to know that your ideas don't work.

Yeah, how're the great

Yeah, how're the great Afghanistan and Iraq ideas working out? Even the hornswoggled American public wants out.

Sally Anne, I may be wrong,

Sally Anne, I may be wrong, but I get the feeling that you would have probably left the Sermon on The Mount saying the same thing. So, my question would be; do you think that Jesus's ideas, including those he preached in The Sermon on the Mount, work?

Love thy enemy. Doesn't work?

Love thy enemy. Doesn't work? Try it. It is the only thing that does work, for as Saint Maxillian Kolbe teaches us, Hate cannot beat Love because hate does not create.

Dear John: I had a

Dear John: I had a conversation with a busy professional yesterday. We talked about how noise and materialism gets in the way of persons really knowing themselves and having the space to know God. Your article on peacemaking is so on target. Thank you for your powerful and holy commitment.

"Given the slow downfall of

"Given the slow downfall of the institutional church, the nation and the world..." That's a lot of slow-downfalling, Father, and it sounds a little delusional. Maybe the reason people are turned off by your message is that it's not that of Jesus or Ghandi, but Chicken Little.

Marcle, many are also turned

Marcle, many are also turned off by Jesus's and Ghandi's message as well.

Thanks, John for living the

Thanks, John for living the Gospel you preach, and for prodding us to continue our own inner work of becoming God's non-violent, peace filled people. We were blessed to have been part of your journey in June.
Sue Wilhelm
Huntington, IN

So, according to Father John

So, according to Father John Dear, the demons Our Lord expelled were not demons sent by the Evil One, but rather, demons of "imperial violence". He further goes on to say that "Satan is always a codeword, in my book, for empire". Not only is this type of theology inconsistent with Catholic teaching and belief, it is not consistent with any Christian theology.

The only thing that Father Dear gets right in this entire article is that the Roman Empire fell as a result of pacifist ideology, though not as he would understand it. The Empire fell because it became too decadent, too interested in pleasure and games, "bread and circuses" that it allowed its military to crumble and its borders to be penetrated without reprisal. Sounds a little like the United States today, actually.

Clint proclaims "Not only is

Clint proclaims "Not only is this type of theology inconsistent with Catholic teaching and belief, it is not consistent with any Christian theology."

Rather, Clint, this is pure Christian theology, untinted by your worship not of God but of our imperial military which overwhelmingly bleeds and feeds off our nation, a cancerous growth sucking our body politic dry, the cause of the destruction of our nation, an addiction to death we will not break, no no no, and the cause of the fall of Rome, its overarching military, until the generals took over and Caesar crossed the river into Rome itself. We live under military occupation which demands in tribute all our national resources and finances, unmeasured, while our people do increasingly without. It is our war addiction which is killing us; our only hope is the Law of Christ, which is peace.

You make absurd statements without any evidence and against all evidence, Clint, and without any authority, while the Reverend Father John Dear SJ, noted Roman Catholic theologian, courageously preaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ even in these dark and lost days.

Come tomorrow, July 30, into the heart of our darkness in Los Alamos to don sack cloth and ashes in repentance for our grave military sins specifically condemned by the highest levels of our Roman Catholic Church.

Regarding the question of

Regarding the question of ACTUAL demons / 'empire', I actually emailed Fr. Dear on his website and asked what he meant.

He was nice enough to respond. His answer was the he holds it to be BOTH. I'm not sure how he comes up with that, but he did NOT say that they were NOT actual demons, as in fallen angels.

If proof of this is requested, I will email Fr. Dear again and ask for his permission to post the content of his email.

the only we demon we must

the only we demon we must battle is our lack of Love for the enemy, for thet unloved, for the unloveable, for the rejected and forgotten and outcast.

Our only demon is our own refusal to Love.
and to Peace.

Our desire to kill the enemy is our greatest demon.

Well, since the Devil is a

Well, since the Devil is a liar and a murderer from the beginning, lack of love is one of the marks of him. This is basically what Fr. Dear said in his email to me.

so let us love

so let us love

So demonic possession is

So demonic possession is responsible for empire violence?
Were the 72 performing exorcisms on Roman soldiers?

"So demonic possession is

"So demonic possession is responsible for empire violence?"
- Outright posession? no. But in a way, the Devil did help us get here. It was through his pushing in the garden that our first parents fell and sin and death entered the world.

"Were the 72 performing exorcisms on Roman soldiers?"
- Well, we are never told of all the people they helped. Considering Jesus' words of praise for the Roman centurion, it is very possible that other legionaries came to Christ as well at that time. The Jews, while they are the chosen people, weren't the only ones to know the world was broken and in desperate need of saving.

Charles, I would challenge

Charles, I would challenge you to find anywhere in any of the Magisterial documents of the Church, in the Catechism, in the documents of Vatican II or earlier Councils, in the writings of the Fathers, etc. any reference to demons being symbolic of the Roman Empire and its violence.

You see, here's the thing. The Church teaches that demons mean just that, fallen angels in thrall to the Evil One, Satan. I am standing on firm and solid foundation of Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition. Father Dear in his interpretation is not, nor are you. Thus, since you are challenging the traditional and established interpretation, it is up to you to provide evidence to support your ideas. Aside from Father Dear's own writing, I suspect that you cannot (which is why in this response you offer no evidence whatsoever).

Moreover, as usual, you demand evidence, without providing even the first scrap yourself. You say, "this is pure Christian theology", but where is your citation? What document, Magisterial teaching, Scripture passage, writing of the saints, citation in the Catechsim are you getting this from? Where does the Church, any Christian denomination, teach that the demons Christ referred to where only symbolic of the Roman Empire, not actual fallen angels in service to Lucifer? Where, Charles? Other than Father Dear's own fertile imagination, that is.

Finally, I would find your calls for peace and nonviolence far more convincing if you were not, in another comment on this very site, calling for revolution, just as I would find your calls for evidence far more convincing if you ever provided evidence for your own comments.

Well, in fairness to Father

Well, in fairness to Father Dear, I don't think he meant that demons are ONLY symbols of 'Roman Empire', at least that's the impression I get from his words to me. (I sent him another email asking permission to reprint his statement, but have not yet heard back, so I can't paste it here.)

Suffice it to say that it does NOT seem that Fr. Dear denies the existence of the fallen angels.

However, I am with you Clint, that there is NO teaching that can be stretched to ANY limit that can in any way be forced to say that the devil is only an allegory for 'empire.

Love thy enemy. Stretch this

Love thy enemy. Stretch this teaching as far as we possibly can, and then still further, and further, and so comes the Reign of Heaven

Fulfill the Intended...

Fulfill the Intended...

Father John Dear: You

Father John Dear: You messaged touched me deeply in a moment of anguish and brought back hope. God bless you!

as he always does me, with

as he always does me, with faith and hope and charity, and thank God for him.

Even those who read this

Even those who read this writing by Father Dear, some are so entwined in the rationale of war that they cannot even imagine message of peace. They nit pic instead of listening with the heart.

The early Christians understood because they refused military service so as not to be in a position to kill. Listen with your heart and not your mind. The message has power.

I think you misunderstand,

I think you misunderstand, Charles. There were many Christians in the Roman Army as well. The fact that many times, when they were discovered, they were executed because they would not offer incense to the emperor.

There is much room in Christ's Church. Absolutist Pacifism is NOT a requirement to reach heaven.

We have St. Francis of Assisi, and we also have St. Louis IX.

Absolutist Pacifism IS a

Absolutist Pacifism IS a requirement to reach heaven.

The Reign of HEaven is amongst us, revealed by Love.

Not by the strength of arms and destruction, horror, terrorism and killing.

But by the strength of Love alone.

There were no Christians in the Emperor´s army. That´s how we all got so confused and compormised by the heretical Constantinian Compromise. The faithful and true Christians responded by heading for the desert.

Want to save our country and our souls?

Disband the military, entirely, from crown to root.

"Absolutist Pacifism IS a

"Absolutist Pacifism IS a requirement to reach heaven."
- As you are so wont to do, I now ask you: Cite the specific, documented teaching of the Catholic Church (not your personal, fallible, interpretation of Scripture, I want you to cite the ACTUAL, AUTHORITATIVE TEACHING OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH) where it says that one must be an absolutist pacifist to reach Heaven.

Jesus taught his followers to pursue peace and warned them of the evils of war, but he did not teach that war is never permissible. Nor did He say that one must be an absolutist pacifist to enter the Kingdom.

"There were no Christians in the Emperor's army."
- Yes, there were. St. Sebastian says otherwise. We know this because when they were found out, they were killed a lot of the time. You are attempting to assert something as factual when it is contrary to not only Church history, but also contrary to secular history. The evidence you put forth to support your 'fact' is nothing except a statement of your personal, fallible, ideology. That doesn't fly as any kind of proof.

"That´s how we all got so confused and compormised by the heretical Constantinian Compromise."
- History should be used to inform ideology, charles, you should not try to use your ideology to edit history. You are quoting old Anabaptist talking points here and expecting us to take them over the authority of the Church? No way.

"The faithful and true Christians responded by heading for the desert."
- By what authority do you basically declare as condemned 2000 years worth of many saints because they do not fit your current political ideology? Why should I take the word of Charles J Scanlon over the word of St. Joan of Arc?

God is Love. DO you not take

God is Love.
DO you not take this Word,
not even in Holy COMmunion?

So you are refusing to cite

So you are refusing to cite the teachings of the Church that support your position?

I accept the teaching of Church, which was founded by Christ, against which the gates of Hell will NEVER prevail.

What I DON'T accept is you using your personal, political ideology in an attempt to claim that for 2000 years, all the thinkers, saints and doctors of the Church were totally wrong about the one thing that matters most.

God is Love. I cannot believe

God is Love. I cannot believe you never before read that axiom in Holy Scripture! Saint John for one . . .

The sum total of the teachings of Jesus: God is Love, so get out and spread the love, unconditionally, without limit, minus zero, with everyone, especially those most lacking our love.

which is why that whole pro multos meaning for the few heresy is so evil and wrong and sinful.

God is Love. Where's the Love, Pete? Not in the book but in the heart of those you now hate, ignore, forget, abandon, kill, refuse to love. Therein lies God.

I told you I didn't want to

I told you I didn't want to hear your personal, fallible, interpretation of Scripture, but that's all you gave me. What I wanted you to do was cite the specific, documented teaching of the Catholic Church where it says that one must be an absolutist pacifist to reach Heaven.

It doesn't say that anywhere, and never has. You can give no answer. You gave nothing but your personal ideology as proof of 2000 years of Catholic teaching. A neocon can do just as much for his ideology, and I won't accept it from him either.

"those you now hate"
- It seems slander is also approved of in your reading of Scripture as well.

God is Love. Love thy

God is Love.
Love thy enemy.

Consider what these really mean in your present place (what we used to call in Managua "coyuntura" while loving our declared enemy in the Reverend Father Miguel D'Escoto, MM and the Reverend Father Ernesto Cardenal, and companions).

Do you really find that present church doctrine no longer holds room for this ancient Gospel Truth and mandate?

No slander. We always have a great deal of lack of love for others. Take me, for instance, as evidenced in your comments here. And so to follow Jesus of Nazareth more closely and truly we must love those we do not yet fully love, and we really fully, completely, perfectly love no one, not even God; there is always more to give.

Only you can interpret through deep prayer and meditation what Love thy enemy really means in your life and in your heart and soul; I cannot do this accurately for you nor for anyone, only with great shame and repentance begin on my own life with greatest fear and trepidation a journey I must begin each day, each moment.

In order to fulfill this chief commandment of Jesus of Nazareth I must first become an absolute pacifist. Jesus tells us directly that we have read the commandment Thou Shalt Not Kill, and Jesus as always goes for broke in commanding us not even to call one another a fool.

If we to hear Jesus must watch the way we feel and speak of one another, how in the world can we imagine Jesus approving our killing one another, approving our dirty little wars, who died in nonviolent resistance to the empire?

Study our patristics and see where we Christians stand upon our pacifism in the face of the warrior empire.

Better yet, read the Reverend Father John Dear SJ who writes so very much more clearly than I ever will.

Why must you insist upon killing, in the light of the Gospel?

"Study our patristics" You

"Study our patristics"

You mean like St. Basil?
"First Canonical Letter, To Amphilocius" (c.374 A.D.): "Our Fathers did not reckon killings in war as murders, but granted pardon, as it seems to me, to those who were fighting in defence of virtue and piety. Perhaps however they should be advised that since their hands are not clean they should abstain from Communion for a period of three years."

Like St. Athanasius?
"Letter to Amun" (before 356 AD): "For in other things that occur in this life, we find distinctions: such as, it is not permitted to murder, but to kill the enemy in war is both lawful and worthy of praise. So then those who perform in the best way in war are given great rewards, and monuments are erected to proclaim their deeds."

Or do these men exist on the official charles' list of saints who are not in heaven but rather condemned because they didn't preach absolutist pacifism? Perhaps it is YOU who should read more, and less selectively, of the early Church Fathers.

It comes down to this,

It comes down to this, charles:

You are basically saying: "Ignore what the Catholic Church teaches and has taught with authority for 2000+ years! Follow me, charles, and my personal interpretation of Scripture instead!"

I would remind you that this is the EXACT same kind of thinking that the pro-nuke neocons use. They also like to quote Scripture, and like you, think the Church's teaching has been wrong (in the other direction) for hundreds of years. They have no more authority in their personal interpretation of Scripture than you do. You are BOTH demanding that we abandon what Christ's Church teaches in favor of your pet ideologies.

The only real difference in argumentation that I can see is that the neocons don't seem to think that repeated use of the word 'dude' can serve in place of a valid, logical argument.

"God is Love. I cannot believe you never before read that axiom in Holy Scripture! Saint John for one . . ."
- I have read St. John's Gospel. Neither I, nor most importantly the Church, have seen anything in it that says that one must be an Absolutist Pacifist in order to reach heaven.

Pete writes: You are

Pete writes: You are basically saying: "Ignore what the Catholic Church teaches and has taught with authority for 2000+ years! Follow me, charles, and my personal interpretation of Scripture instead!"

This is not what I say at all upon my own authority. Read our great theologians from the patristics of Origen to the Reverend Father John Dear SJ. Read and contemplate carefully the Word of Jesus of Nazareth prohibiting even the thought of harm to another person, who actively supports the life of others, no matter who, who loves all. This is not me, Pete, this is our Faith, absolutely, to love our enemy, not to kill people.

I find myself in full Communion with you, Pete, gratefully, as you write this great Truth: " . . .one must be an Absolutist Pacifist in order to reach heaven."

I remember echoing in my heart the many evenings we in Solesmes chanted repeatedly "Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est."

War holds no place for love, for charity, for God. As you have here so strongly and truly and well written: " . . .one must be an Absolutist Pacifist in order to reach heaven."

"Read our great theologians

"Read our great theologians from the patristics of Origen to the Reverend Father John Dear SJ"
- You list two people in such a way as to imply that there are MANY people in between that say the same thing. This is false. Further, your characterization of Oregin is also historically false. He did NOT teach that absolutist pacifism was necessary to reach heaven. I suggest you try to READ him.

"" . . .one must be an Absolutist Pacifist in order to reach heaven.""
- I said this was false, and it is. It seems you either misread me or are deliberately misrepresenting what I wrote, which is at least consistent, as it is what you are doing with the writings of Origin.

You also did NOT cite the teaching of the Catholic Church. You inferred, falsely, that a single father taught that mandatory absolutist pacifism was a requirement for salvation. All you are left with is, like I said about, your own personal, fallible, set of beliefs.

"Read and contemplate carefully the Word of Jesus of Nazareth prohibiting even the thought of harm to another person"
- The neocons will reply that you should contemplate the command of Jesus to sell your cloak and buy a sword. Neither you nor they have the teaching correct. Both of you are relying on your own, personal, fallible version of Scripture.

St. Sebastian, St. Martin of

St. Sebastian, St. Martin of Tours, St. Pancras, St. George, Sts. John and Paul, St. Maurice, St. Florian, St. Eustace -- all were members of the Roman military, all, except Martin of Tours, were martyrs for the faith.

St. Ignatius Loyola, one of the Church's greatest saints (in my opinion), was a member of the military and founded the Company (Society) of Jesus based on military codes and standards. St. Louis IX of France personally led two Crusades while being remembered and venerated as a man of enormous personal holiness, mercy and justice. St. Joan of Arc was a soldier who was so blessed by God to have received visions, visions which assisted her in ending the Siege of Orleans during the Hundred Years War. St. Ladislaus I of Hungary was a king of great personal holiness but also of martial skill who is, to this day, remembered as the exemplar of chivalry in Hungary.

I could go on, but the point is that your interpretation that one must be an absolute pacifist to gain Heaven is entirely inconsistent with the Church's teaching and the example of the saints. Your comment that there were "no Christians in the Emperor's army" is entirely false, contradicted by history and Church teaching.

Once again, you presume to be the final arbiter of all who are "true Christians" and only those who fit your particular model, who follow the teachings of Charles Scanlon, can be considered "faithful and true Christians".

It is a very narrow, very small and very judgmental Church that you are trying to set up, a Church that would exclude millions upon millions of good and holy men and women who refuse to accept your interpretation of Christ's message.

Charles.
Dude.
Where's the love?

Where? Nowhere in the

Where? Nowhere in the military, Clint Green, but in the hearts of those you kill.

Love thy enemy. This does not mean incinerate their children, as in Hiroshima and Nagasaki; it means seek common goals and means to achieve them together, in cooperative love, which is God.

Your disdain, hatred even, of

Your disdain, hatred even, of the military, the brave men and women who daily put their lives on the line for the rest of us is really offensive and far beyond the pale. You presume to judge the hearts of soldiers, claiming that there is no love there. What a great gift God has given you that you are able to sit in judgment over every person who does not share your radical pacifist interpretation of Scripture. What a blessing to know more than the Church! What a blessing it must be to know that your own interpretation is superior to that of the teaching of Augustine, Aquinas, and so many others, to be superior to the Catechism. What a privilege to be the judge of who is and who is not a follower of Christ!

yeah, like after his

yeah, like after his conversion, Clint dude, Iggy really went around killing people . . .

NOT!

Lou and Constantine? same difference, confusion not conversion to the God of Peace, who is Love.

GO on. Make my day. Love.

So St. Louis was not a good

So St. Louis was not a good Christian in your eyes?

Interesting.

Any other Catholic saints you'd like to condemn while you're at it? I assume St. Joan of Arc would be in there too. Do you have a list handy of those you consider as not worth of Heaven?

To know the most positive

To know the most positive list of those who truly and powerfully preach the Word of God in our times, bringing the Reign of Heaven closer to us and in practice amongst us, we must be most deeply grateful and attentive to the writings and word and life and actions of the Reverend Father John Dear SJ, if we are to follow Jesus of Nazareth at all, at all.

You avoided the uncomfortable

You avoided the uncomfortable question, eh?

Answer it, please. Is St. Joan of Arc worthy of being a saint? I would remind you that she was NOT an absolutist pacifist.

How about St. Louis IX? Same question. He was also NOT an absolutist pacifist. Is he a saint, or should he be considered condemned?

As usual only a glib response

As usual only a glib response insulting and mocking the saints while dismissing everyone who does not share your fallible interpretation of the Sacred Scriptures.

http://abcasiapacific.com/new

http://abcasiapacific.com/news/2011-07-29/cluster-bomb-legislation-flawe...

what are those alternative weapons and are they not equally immoral, equally sinful?

Everyone at the

Everyone at the Hiroshima/Nagasaki Memorial in Los Alamos today was striken to find the Reverend Father John Dear SJ physically absent for the first time in memory, our most pastoral, edifying, loving, peacemaking, strengthening, Faith inspiring, courageous priest in anglo America, shockingly not permitted by a venal, nuclear supporting local bishop to celebrate in this part of New Mexico and thus exiled distressingly to the East, to the sadness of all, and this great hollowness today without him.

I begin nevertheless to share my poor photos of this historic day at

http://www.flickr.com/photos/charlesjscanlon/sets/72157627319622890/with...

in proud hopes that perhaps the Reverend Father John Dear SJ might possibly see them and remember us and above all remember how much we truly and faithfully love him and all he does for us.

A few weeks ago the Reverend Father John Dear SJ recommended upon these pages that we all read Abraham Joshua Heschel: Essential Writings (Modern Spiritual Masters) and so I brought along my new copy for him to sign in Los Alamos. Now, all I can do is read it.

This is about a previous

This is about a previous Column – A beautiful Portrait, and great LINK with an Excerpt from Tim DeChristopher’s presentencing Statement, before he was sentenced to two years in prison.
LINK:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/07/26-13

This is related to my

This is related to my previous Posting about Tim DeChristopher –
See LINK – includes beautiful Portrait and Excerpt -
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/07/26-13
This would make a great “Prayer Card” {or something similar to a Prayer Card}. Something to remind ourselves to daily Pray for Tim, that his prison stay is as “un-upseting” as possible, that God protects him and “insulates” him from all upsets. That God protects him from depression and despair, and helps him “keep his spirits” up.

Maybe it is not your message

Maybe it is not your message that is the problem but your methods. If you are doing the work of God then people will listen. I wonder though about your attitude - whether there is a hint of egoism that comes through what you are doing. Much of your message seems to focus on you - your arrests, your runs-ins, the attacks on you -- and this takes away from the message which is very, very important. I read your autobiography and I have read a number of your writings and I think what you say is important and very consistent with Jesus' own words and actions- but where is the humility?

You often mention Thomas Merton as an influence. But you miss an important part of who he was: he was extremely humble and was very aware - and self critical - of his own failings in this area. Merton was authentic. With all due respect, you come off as lacking compassion and full of yourself. Humility is the key. Take yoruself out of the equation and focus on God. I think you will have better results.

Very good advice for all of

Very good advice for all of us and also quite difficult. I don't feel I know Fr. Dear well enough to agree or disagree with you, but I do feel I know from his writings to believe that his heart is in promoting Jesus's message, even if, as you say, his ego may also be involved.

His partisan bishops most

His partisan bishops most certainly destroy his ego, enough to drive a lesser one to despair, and here one who does not read him, who does not know him. Let us therefore pray most fervently for this excellent priest, the Reverend Father John Dear SJ and grant Father Dear all our support possible in every way possible, that he may never lose heart but ever remain the most faithful and courageous voice in this fallen and anglo America.

Suzanne forgive me as I make

Suzanne forgive me as I make no sense of what you write.

The message is always peace and the selfless courage demanded now for peace

It was said of Fr. Merton in his lifetime that he was the only hidden hermit whose name appeared in lights along Broadway, yet this did not take from his courageous message for peace; his ex-military abbot and the Vatican did that for him.

The Reverend Father John Dear SJ misses nothing; we do, and we better read him and pray for peace with him and support him most fervently and carefully.
The dumb and blond hierarchy is now out to destroy him, like the pharisees and scribes of an earlier day, and he needs our most loving prayers and support now, before our church loses its last great hope, and only chance for peace. This is the result of your negative sentiments here.

The Reverend Father John Dear SJ is our only compassionate priest left, and you write, as Dr. Swift's wise horses put it, the thing which is not so.

I am singer songwriter Tally

I am singer songwriter Tally Koren and over the last 72 days I have been finding things relating to the number 72 to celebrate the release of my new single '72 Names (Hallelujah).

Today's video explores the texts from the new testament of Gospel of John 10, when he sent the 72 disciples. The video looks at where the number derived from and some background information about the subject. There is also an interview with James Bradbury an expert of Classics and Theology and lay reader in the Church of England http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjLrk07p6Bs

Download 72 Names (Hallelujah) from iTunes:

http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/72-names-hallelujah-single/id454869114

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