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Vatican: Tiara on Pope's coat of arms unintentional
The Catholic blogosphere has been abuzz this week over the possibility that Pope Benedict may have changed his coat of arms to include the papal tiara, a symbol of the pope's temporal and spiritual authority that harks back to days before the Second Vatican Council.
The coat of arms used by the pope Oct. 10Our own Jerry Filteau weighed in on Tuesday, reporting on the distinct differences between the coat of arms the pope has used since his election and the one he used Oct. 10 at the weekly Angelus prayer in St. Peter's Square.
Now, it seems, the Vatican is acknowledging some of the reactions the new crest has spurred.
In an interview with Catholic News Service this morning, Jesuit Fr. Federico Lombardi, Vatican spokesman, said the new tapestry with the changed coat of arms was a gift to the pope, and was used "without any intention of changing the crest" or adopting the tiara.
From the report:
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Father Lombardi said Sunday’s tapestry -- the one with the tiara -- was a gift, hung "without any intention of changing the crest."
He also said, "If it is used again, it will be modified" to match the pope’s official coat of arms, featuring the mitre.
Makes you wonder: Shouldn't the Vatican's PR staff be on top of this kind of stuff?
For those of us outside the Roman curia's inner circle, a new coat of arms that uses the papal tiara seems like a pretty significant change. It entails a completely different understanding of the papacy from the one the Vatican espoused when Benedict first chose his coat of arms in 2005.
To the Roman curia and the Vatican PR staff: For the sake of those of us across the world who look to you to help us understand our faith, can you please try and get the message right next time? Thanks.






"Shouldn't the Vatican's PR
"Shouldn't the Vatican's PR staff be on top of this kind of stuff?"
No, I'm wondering why does the pope have a coat of arms at all? Isn't that more like empire rather than servant? For those of us "outside the inner circle," a new coat of arms is no change whatsoever; i.e. who cares?
By the way, what was Jesus' coat of arms?
Christ's coat of arms was the
Christ's coat of arms was the cross, the nails, and the thorns. And He most certainly IS a King.
I find nothing wrong with His chief ambassador bearing a coat of arms.
It seems that Fr. Lombardi is
It seems that Fr. Lombardi is the only person in the Vatican whose full-time job is PR. He alone could not possibly anticipate all the reactions to all the egregious words and deeds of Benedict.
Who was the donor of this banner? If somebody donates a Torquemada style Inquisitor hat, Benedict is not required to wear it in public. Same with this.
Boy, talk about a tempest in
Boy, talk about a tempest in a teapot! Like it or not the Pope is still the monarch of the Vatican City State. And his role as ruler of the Church certainly does have a parallel with the concept of monarchy.
"Makes you wonder: Shouldn't
"Makes you wonder: Shouldn't the Vatican's PR staff be on top of this kind of stuff?"
I gaurantee the Vatican PR staff probably didn't even think a banner gifted to the Pope would make the progressives wail like little school children being refused cheerios in the pew on Sunday morning. But this type of behavior has become the new norm for anything the Pope does nowadays. What's with the insecurity?
Wish there was a "Like"
Wish there was a "Like" button on here, becuase I would TOTALLY hit it for this comment!
The insecurity is on the part
The insecurity is on the part of anyone that would use such a coat of arms. Is it a symbol of his wish? Is it a symbol of the donors wish or both? The world is beginning to see the Vatican for the museum that it is. The perspective of the Episcopate is that the People of God are all little children that they must control. In fact they have not awoken to the fact that they lost the papal states and with all the current scandals are in an episcopal crisis that has lost them the respect of so many of the People of God. To find a way out of this crisis, the Pope and other Bishops should be very careful of this type of gift because it only represents a power source of the filthy rich that wants to keep the dirty poor dirty. What do the Pope and the Bishops want? If they want to be a part of the Politically powerful, they are not even Christian.
Perhaps decisions such as
Perhaps decisions such as this are made during siesta. Or, could it be that an institution which still uses smoke signals as a way of communicating to people at its front door explains it.
Thanks for the update. The
Thanks for the update. The previous news truly was a downer. Now we realize it's just one more example of a Curia and PR staff and Communications staff asleep at the switch.
Now, for me, the big question is why was the "gift" even used in such a public and official manner? Symbolic actions are just that - symbols - similar to (in Papal Masses) reception of the Eucharist on the tongue and absence of women eucharistic ministers in these same kinds of rituals. The old adage still rings true: "Actions speak louder than words."
I have this bridge for sale.
I have this bridge for sale.
Not only the tiara should
Not only the tiara should have been dropped,but all the other useless, ridiculous trappings the drag queen hierarchy cling to so tenaciously, e.g thrones, coats-of-arms, cappa magnas,gaudy cocktail rings, jeweled pointey hats, silk and damask nighties, and the list goes on. This pope, in particular, seems to spend an inordinate amount of his time, not to mention the time spent by the pope's sacristans and liturgical mandarins, in beautfying Benedict's public image and the stage for his Constantinian-style Floor Show.
What we don't need is further attention to bringing back dead languages and dead liturgical practices , when the need is even greater for spending more time and effort on the education and training of the world's desperately poor, witnessing to the growing gap between the super rich and the penniless, and ending unjust wars which drain national treasuries and the the cost of providing for future generations.
The Catholic Church is the
The Catholic Church is the biggest charitable organization on earth. Dropping symbols will not feed the poor any better. Those things would just be put in storage anyway. This is a ridiculous theory. It was a gift and a beautiful one at that. The Pope does not wear the Tiara, And I think he should occasionally, isn't that enough? Must it be barred from every image of the Pope? Come on. Like it or not some people are drawn into the CHurch by its' majesty and beauty. Those people in turn donate, which goes to the poor. It is a cycle. Why alienate those who like it?Seeing the Tiara reminds me that the pre conciliar and post conciliar Church are the same. No rupture there, only Continuity. I hope they leave the crest alone.
I cannot understand what the
I cannot understand what the fuss is about. Heraldry in the Church, besides being a tradition, even if of monarchical and noble origins not much at home with modern sensibilities, is much like logos for products. It says something, it refers to someone. But there can also be more than one interpretation of a coat of arms, like there can be various versions of a logo. Nobody seemed to criticise John XXIII, Paul VI, JP I and JP II for the tiara on the coat of arms, even after Paul VI when they no longer wore it. Benedict XVI gets rid of it and then everyone freaks out when it shows up again on a gift. It's a logo on a carpet that was a gift. To see it is as the restoration of, well, what exactly? or to see it as an un Christian practice is just American philistinism and liberal reactionism at its worst. Get a life! Besides, why does the Vatican PR team have to explain (away) everything. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar . . .
God Bless Pope Benedict XVI
God Bless Pope Benedict XVI and the Catholic Church.
I am happy to see it return.
I am happy to see it return. It was a gift, with stunning detail and beauty. The gift givers should be thanked for putting so much into it. Who cares that it has the Tiara on it? It still is the symbol of the Papacy. Do those who want it removed also want it taken from the Vatican Flag? Or other places where it is still seen? This movement to erase it from memory seems to have a much deeper agenda. As Catholics aren't we supposed to support our Traditions and the Pope? Not constantly pick him and his decisions apart? It is a gift for crying out loud!
Since the Vatican is a
Since the Vatican is a religious Disneyland, I'm all for coats of arms and the other trappings. They bring in the tourist dollar!
According to my own
According to my own exploration, thousands of persons in the world receive the loan at well known banks. Thence, there's a good chance to find a short term loan in every country.
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