Moral Idiocy in Denver

Go Archbishop Chaput!

"Something is rotten in Denver."

It certainly does seem that way.

But you wouldn't know that, would you, from the thread of jubilant praise following Mr. Allen's recent article about the Archbishop of the Denver archdiocese.

Perhaps what is rotten is rotten right at the heart of the church, when so many of its members are blind to the pain being inflicted by pastors lacking in charity, and oblivious to the harm done to the church when we drive away one person after another by our lack of pastoral concern.

MSW,
Are you in Denver? If so, then I would agree with you about something rotten or morally idiotic being there.

Is the bishop going to oust the children of parents married outside the Church? Very doubtful. Catholic schools need their money, and we all know there are more people married outside the church than there are lesbian or gay parents. Yes, don't you just love the moral uprightness of these bishops who just don't know how to get around the ecclesiastical rights of priests who sexually abuse children, but know so perfectly well what to do with lay persons who are outside the moral teaching of the church!!

Chaput strikes again. John Allen, is this creep still your idea of 21st century bishop?

Easy enough to charge "idiocy." Coming up with an actual argument against those with whom you disagree is much more difficult.

Something is rotton on this website! Yet again you prove that you are Catholic in name only. Like those lesbians, you too need to be removed from Catholic culture.

Michael Winters mightily concludes that “There is something rotten in Denver” when a Catholic school stands up for its values and says “no “ to a student because of parental behavior. For many Catholic in name only schools, ( you know, the ones that have long ago ceased to teach any recognizable Catholic Faith and wholly embraced the concept of private academy emulation,) The term “Moral Idiocy” readily applies to such Catholic institutions if they attempt to bar or even question, a student for parental behavior contrary to the schools marginalized value system , unless of course it is for a beach of political correctness, usually in terms of parental faith being to “traditional or orthodox” in which case they are immediately placed on the “ problem list”. However what about a Catholic school that actually does teach the Faith? Further what if the administrators and teachers really do strive to provide a teaching environment based on Church doctrine? It is under these conditions that Michaels Winters aspersions begin to vaporize, for any private religious school has the right to enforce moral standards or it would cease to be an effective teaching institution and indeed would serve as a living model that would promote a redefined faith. Further since the “parents” have chosen to publicize the fact that they are in an active lesbian relationship just what did they expect the school to do? If they truly wanted to educate “their” pre-schooler in the faith, they could easily announce that they will live platonically and like the rest of the Catholic Community, strive, to the best of their ability, to lead chaste lives together,. Such a heartfelt proclamation would not only serve to reinstate the student but reflect a desire to follow the faith, instead of using it to promote alternative lifestyles.

The greatest commandment is not Thou Shalt Keep The Rules. Rather, it is about love of God, one's neighbors and oneself.

When Pius X died, the conclave of 1914 elected Benedict XV, who immediately issued an encyclical calling on Catholics "to appease dissension and strife" so that "no one should consider himself entitled to affix on those who merely do not agree with his ideas the stigma of disloyalty to faith."

"There is no need of adding any qualifying terms to the profession of Catholicism," he concluded. "It is quite enough for each one to proclaim 'Christian is my name and Catholic my surname’ “

Being a practicing lesbian and, then, enrolling your adopted child in a Catholic school is like joining the French Club and, then, expecting to speak Spanish at its meetings !
There is such a person as an, " a la carte ", Catholic....one who picks and chooses that in which he believes.
I wish to kindly, gently invite the lesbian couple to enroll this child in one of the many other schools available to them.
I look through the articles posted here and elsewhere in NCR's site and I see a decidedly liberal slant in most if not all.
Where is the balance and the fairness ?

Is it okay with you, that a pre-schooler is the one who is being punished by Bishop Chaput? this is a 3 to 4 year-old who is not going to understand why he or she is being forced to leave all of their friends and go somewhere that is strange to them. is that okay with you?

"It is a first principle of Catholic moral theology that the sins of the fathers are not visited upon their sons."

## It was - and rightly. Once. But now ?

That is the sort of incident that allows one to judge what people mean when they say they "hate the sin, and love the sinner". And it explains perfectly why a lot of homosexual Catholics find the distinction a worthless, meaningless word-game.

The CC really can be sickening at times :(