Detroit weekend of lectures, emotions neglects sex abuse crisis

COMMENTARY

Several thousand Catholics from around the U.S. and even a few foreign countries gathered in Detroit June 10-12 to ponder their assessment of the present and hopes for the future of the Catholic Church.

It was a weekend of much more than public lectures, breakout sessions, networking and over-active emotions. The larger of the groups, the American Catholic Council met at the Detroit Renaissance Center. On the other side of the ideological and theological chasm was the Call to Holiness Conference.

The weekend revealed some toxic aspects of today's version of the institutional Church. It also revealed some expected and also disturbing aspects of each group.

The first and not unexpected revelation was the response of the local archbishop, Allen Vigneron. He reacted to the American Catholic Council with negativity and threats that served as a thin cover for his fear, sparked by what he was certain was happening in the Renaissance Center. His response to the Call to Holiness was praise for its theme, “Call to Fidelity: The Power of Truth.”

The Call to Holiness participants attended a “Solemn High Extraordinary Form” Mass at a prominent Detroit church which, for those who are unfamiliar with Vatican code talk, is a Mass celebrated according to the Tridentine Rite, which was put out of business by Vatican II and rehired by Benedict XVI. The American Catholic Council wound down with a Eucharistic Celebration, A.K.A. Mass, that the archbishop tried to prevent and which is now under investigation for what he deems serious violations of liturgical rules.

The Call to Holiness conference was strongly supported by the archbishop who predictably urged participation. The ACC was dangerous territory for the faithful and semi-faithful of the archdiocese.

Well ahead of time the archbishop warned everyone that the ACC was not really Catholic -- as if independent thinking had been added to the list of nefarious ecclesiastical crimes. He also threatened any priest who took part in the Sunday liturgy with loss of canonical assignment and did everything short of forbidding priests to even attend.

The first brave man who agreed to preside at the Sunday Mass was persuaded to stand down by the probability that he would be removed as pastor from the parish community he had nurtured for many years. His decision was not based on fear or the usual pathological docility expected of priests by bishops. Rather, he responded to the concerns of his parishioners that he would be taken from them. In the end a retired Benedictine priest celebrated the Mass, which provoked the expected response of the archdiocese that it would be investigated and the priest punished.

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The priest told the media that he felt good about what he had done and wasn't worried. The archdiocese manifested the usual hierarchical omniscience with its ability to criticize and condemn an event about which it had no direct contact. They denounced the "forbidden Mass," replete with heretical departures from the official liturgical mediocrity, before it had even taken place.

The ACC leaders took great pains to make sure the Mass followed the current liturgical guidelines, but the archbishop would have found something wrong nevertheless. As far as scaring the local priests away, he was not too successful as it was estimated that at least fifty were present.

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For more on the American Catholic Council Mass, see: Liturgy bends rules despite prelate's threat
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The archdiocese sliced and diced all four main speakers without the slightest idea as to what they would say. Their complaints consisted of perceived departures from "official doctrine" by each of the four. Duh! The whole point of the ACC was a gathering of adult Catholics who were not hobbled by the Vatican's prohibition on thinking.

The ACC represented a cross section of people who are part of "church" as a movement of the Spirit and a community of believers and not a monarchy fueled by fear of loss of control. They voiced a number of legitimate, pressing concerns about the church as an organization and the church as a way of following Christ -- and their concerns reflected the harsh reality that there is a massive chasm between values of the church as a pilgrim people and the church as a hierarchical organization.

I looked at the agenda and schedule of the Call to Holiness, which I obviously did not attend, and was not surprised at the reactionary tenor of the whole program. In short, it met my expectations. My greatest disappointment was not with the archbishop, whose fear-based authoritarian responses are typical, business-as-usual for most bishops. Nor was I disappointed with what I read about the Call to Holiness. It appeared to be a reaction to everything they perceived as wrong with the majority of active Catholics who still believe in the validity of the Second Vatican Council.

My disappointment and frustration is with the ACC, the basis of which I sincerely hope is not a reflection of today's thinking Catholics.

The single phenomenon that has forced into the open the tragic and often toxic flaws of the institutional Church has been the worldwide rape and molestation of the vulnerable by Catholic clerics, and the inadequate and often destructive response of the bishops in the U.S. and around the world. This nightmare is not over and won’t be over as long as the institutional church places maximum value on image and power and minimal, very minimal, value on justice and healing for the victims of their own clergy.

During the conference there was a lot of discussion about the clerical culture and how it systematically denies the rights of any group in the church that threatens its control. The rights of the hundreds of thousands of abuse victims are different however. Their right to justice and spiritual healing is fundamental. It cuts to the very core of what the church is supposed to be about.

Yet, officially, the conference only gave the abuse issue a passing nod: a single breakout session on Saturday afternoon originally scheduled for a small meeting room with two round tables and chairs around the walls. The turnout far exceeded the room’s capacity so the session was moved to a much larger area.

The nightmare of church-wide sexual abuse might have been on the minds of many at the conference but it was not urgent enough for the planners to give it the prominence it deserved. Rather than trying to figure out “why I am a Catholic” the participants should have been searching for ways to help the church’s countless victims.

Did the planning committee really believe the bishops’ nonsense that the “problem” is now behind us? Did the listening sessions that took place around the country reflect that today’s Catholics aren’t all that interested in the constant grinding of this problem at the heart and soul of the church?

Whatever the reasons given for treating the abuse issue as a tangential problem, they are insufficient. I was not surprised to find the abuse scandal missing from the list of topics addressed at the Call to Holiness conference. I was surprised to the point of being scandalized that the reform group leaders who put together the ACC treated the abuse phenomenon and consequently the victims, in such a dismissive manner.

My friend Paul Kendrick reminded the ACC and me that the late Bishop Kenneth Untener once said that every meeting should reflect on how their agenda will affect the poor.

The Latin American bishops, before they were decimated by John Paul II, set as a top priority the “preferential option for the poor.”

This message is equally applicable to the Call to Holiness. The victims and survivors of the church’s own destructive forces have joined the ranks of the poor for whom there must be a clear preference if the church is to be what it purports to be, the Body of Christ.

[Tom Doyle is a priest, canon lawyer, addictions therapist and long-time supporter of justice and compassion for clergy sex abuse victims. He is a co-author of the first report ever issued to the U.S. bishops on clergy sex abuse, in 1986.]

More coverage from NCR's Jerry Filteau on the American Catholic Council:

"The single phenomenon that

"The single phenomenon that has forced into the open the tragic and often toxic flaws of the institutional Church has been the worldwide rape and molestation of the vulnerable by Catholic clerics, and the inadequate and often destructive response of the bishops in the U.S. and around the world. This nightmare is not over and won’t be over as long as the institutional church places maximum value on image and power and minimal, very minimal, value on justice and healing for the victims of their own clergy."

Well said, Fr. Tom. Latin Masses and silk capes will not solve the church's numerous problems. Still, I believe you are a little too hard on the ACC. No thinking person believes this problem is over, no matter how often the bishops tell us otherwise. Attendance at the conference itself exceeded expectations. I agree that there should have been a greater emphasis on this issue. Nonetheless, I do not believe the inadequate preparation for the breakout is comparable to the bishops war on the victims of sex abuse by priests.

Unless the bishops' feet are

Unless the bishops' feet are kept to the fire and their backs to the wall while accountability and transparency are demanded of them, most everything else is secondary.

Justice for victims-survivors of sexual abuse by those representing the RCC, whether bishops, priests, nuns, seminarians or deacons is a must as are the criminal charges of obstruction of justice, reckless endangerment and conspiracy by enabling bishops and those representing them.

Msgr. William Lynn of the Archdiocese of Philadelphia is the first church official charged with such offenses. That saga continues.

The release of the 2011 Grand Jury Report on the Archdiocese of Philadelphia has put the lie to everything the U.S. bishops have been saying since 2002.

What has not been done in Philly between the two grand jury reports is outrageous but RAGE/JUSTIFIED ANGER is an emotion missing from 99 percent of the bishops.

I attended the ACC meeting in Detroit. I also participated in distributing leaflets at Sunday's Mass at the cathedral there. David Clohessy and I, along with two local men, were met by security men around the cathedral who followed us in golf carts. I understood some, if not all, were retired Detroit police. I found them to be confrontational and bullying even though we remained on the pavement - public property - and in the street. Fox News was there and interviewed us at length. I don't know what made it to the TV news but what disturbed me the most was that some of the security guards at the cathedral were wearing sidearms.

I never thought I would experience such a thing in my church in my own country.

I understood from the Detroit people that Archbishop Vignoron expected hundreds from the ACC to demonstrate. Four of us were there for almost two hours. Even given the level of his accusations in the newspapers before the ACC conference and his threats to both members of the clergy and the archdiocese, carrying sidearms seems rather paranoid.

Sister Maureen Paul Turlish SNDdeN
Victims' Advocate
Delaware & Pennsylvania
maturlishmdsnd@yahoo.com

DUELING

DUELING ICONOGRAPHY:
http://americancatholiccouncil.org/files/2011/06/Program_new.pdf
VS.
http://www.calltoholiness.com/

Choose your side...the ARTWORK pretty much sums it up.

Memo to VatiCAN'T:
And you really think a return to the LATIN MASS coupled with the new translation are gonna bridge this gap?
Surely, you jest!

Conferences come and go, the

Conferences come and go, the success or not will not be judged by the numbers that attended either conference, but rather the fruits they develop. What these two respective conferences have highlighted is the division in the Catholic Church in the United States.

I don't know that name calling is the best form of communication. It might sound trite to ask this question, but what happened to "Charity in All Things?"

The two conferences falling on Pentecost Sunday missed an opportunity, in my opinion. You may ask what that opportunity, and I would respond common ground. We know what we disagree about, but what do we really agree with.

Let's pray one day we will all be able to genuinely recognize each other as brothers and sisters in Christ.

Joe Murray

You can't find common ground

You can't find common ground with people who will not speak with you. You cannot find common ground with those who judge a gathering before even finding out what is said and done. Every bishop in the United States was invited to attend the ACC - most totally ignored the invitation; a few simply said "no." The intention of the ACC gathering was to include all sides.... but it can't be done if group won't even respond!

Thank you, Joe. That is a

Thank you, Joe. That is a mature and balanced contribution, seldom seen on many blogs. I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments.

I feel sorry for this man.

I feel sorry for this man. He's so caught up in the crisis that he can't see anything else. The ACC was not called to address the sex abuse crisis, but they did not treat it as "tangential." When no one can satisfy your expectations, you're making it all about yourself, not the church, and certainly not the children.

The child sex abuse scandal

The child sex abuse scandal is the first thing that most people think about when they think of the Catholic church. If drastic measures aren't taken, children in the future will read about the horrific crimes in the future, and read about the church's lack of concern for the crimes and the victims, and the church will be gone in two generations.

Knowing little about the

Knowing little about the conference, it seems its subjects were well chosen. We can and will go on about the sex abuse crisis forever. But what will keep Catholics sickened and scandalized by the crisis within the Catholic community? We need very much to know why, with all the dirty laundery waving in the wind, it is worthwhile to remain in the Church most of us love so deeply.

Conferences come and go, the

Conferences come and go, the success or not will not be judged by the numbers that attended either conference, but rather the fruits they develop. What these two respective conferences have highlighted is the division in the Catholic Church in the United States.

I don't know that name calling is the best form of communication. It might sound trite to ask this question, but what happened to "Charity in All Things?"

The two conferences falling on Pentecost Sunday missed an opportunity, in my opinion. You may ask what that opportunity, and I would respond common ground. We know what we disagree about, but what do we really agree with.

Let's pray one day we will all be able to genuinely recognize each other as brothers and sisters in Christ.

Joe Murray

All those LCWR types who

All those LCWR types who attended the ACC still refuse to meet with their victims or admit any wrong doing. And yet these women have been canonized by the NCR.

Fr. Doyle has been on the

Fr. Doyle has been on the vanguard of this of 30 years and this is become what defines him. So he likes neither the general Orthodox Catholic nor the Dissenting Catholic response to the sex abuse issue. Not high enough on their priority list. That seems to be the only thing that matters to him.

Well we all have our priorites. Pope Benedict seems to be somewhat fixed on the genocide and ethnic cleanisng of Christians in the Middle Ease, Africa and parts of Asis. We American Catholics have our own priorities. NCR and many others, including Fr. Doyle seem to think it is the sex abuse issue, court cases, grand juries, etc. Others are fixed on Liturgy and moral theological priorities. And Vatican II "grey heads" have their thing.

I am of the opinion we are living in a time when a vortex is about to be formed like one did circa 1935 and 1860 where good and bad people of similar and differeing associations simply did not want to listen to the opinions of others and they willy nilly got sucked into an epic cataclism that defined the social field for the next 60 years or so.

No mention of 5 wars, of

No mention of 5 wars, of course.

President Obama, he has brought us quiet. No pompous pronouncements from Pax Christi about the victims of war, or calls for impeachement. When a pro-abortion president is in office, the NCR's Peace Advocates all take their vactions. What a hoot.

Anonymous, you have an

Anonymous, you have an interesting salient point.

War is no longer on the consciousness of the Peace groups. If the current president of the United States wants to escalate war somewhere, he now has a better oppurtunity than George Bush ever had.

I suppose what is more important is "who" is calling the "shots" (no pun intended) than what the shots are. In other words it is more about "who", not "what".

"War is no longer on the

"War is no longer on the consciousness of the Peace groups." Baloney! Michael, I am in a peace group, Peace Action-WI. I'll have you know we demonstrate against our nation's wars just as much now as we did in the Bush-Cheney era.

A courageous, prophetic piece

A courageous, prophetic piece of writing! Thank you very much.

Sexual abuse is primarily an abuse of POWER. I believe it is not driven by sexual impulse, but by a desire to assert power in the face of perceived powerlessness. This is why sexual abuse and its cover-up is rampant in Catholic Church history, where the systemic abuse of power and privilege, where every level of the hierarchy feels powerless and threatened, is the Church's great primal wound.

Thank you Tom Doyle,

Thank you Tom Doyle, speaking for thousands and thousands of victims of clergy abuse and cover up of these crimes against kids.

Doyle is talking about the

Doyle is talking about the “toxic aspects of today's version of the institutional Church.” While he is reporting on two separate events on the two sides of the spectrum (one of which, as he put is, he ‘obviously did not attend’), I find his assessment and presentation of people and events the most toxic in it all.

His language is confrontational; his characterisation of people and event is prejudiced and partisan. He is not seeking common ground and unity by promoting dialogue. Rather, he is preoccupied with changing of power structures, with promoting what he thinks are the important issues, and with vilifying those not agreeing with him. As a Christian, as a priest and as a canon lawyer he should know better. Yet, he still opts for division, distrust and disrespect.

Yes, we advocates and

Yes, we advocates and survivors definitely ought to be much "nicer."

After all, what's rape, forcible sodomy, the wholesale theft of childrens' innocence and legal intimidation of crime victims in comparison to an unkind word?

The sexual scandal will

The sexual scandal will continue to divide the Church as long as the Bishops are not forth coming and admit to their enabling of this and the many financial crisis in the Church. Father Doyle continues to point out the entire collapse of leadership in the RCC Episcopate as well he should! This was the rape of our children and Bishops who fail and failed to act appropriately to protect them.

I completely agree. Today

I completely agree. Today our bishops have no real authority, no real clout among the people. The vast majority of our people do not even listen to them or read them. A minority of faithful Catholics, whether progressive or conservative, hear and use the bishops - if the people agree with them, they may quote them, usually as a weapon to support their own view; if they disagree with them, they will ignore them or openly repudiate them. In no case do they look to them for direction or answers.
What has destroyed the bishops' authority? Their dire failure to handle the clerical abuse crises in a truly just manner; their early, constant and still on-going attempt to cover up the terrible sexual clerical abuse of children;
their actual participation in these crimes by their cover-up: these are the things that have destroyed their moral and teaching authority. The on-going revelations - such as those of Archbishop Weakland's admission under legal deposition in June 2008 that such cover-up was archdiocesan policy, Cardinal George's admission also under legal deposition in August 2008 that he had in 2006 left a chief offender in ministry contrary to the advice of his sexual abuse review board, the files of Bridgeport ordered opened by the state supreme court last December, the Philadelphia grand juries of 2005 and now of 2011, and the present flagrant cover-up of Bishop Finn in Kansas City - have marked our bishops and the USCCB indelibly in the minds of the people as hypocrites. Their refusal, still, to open all their files to public scrutiny by worthy, competent and professional lay persons - to fathers and mothers - drowns out or smothers whatever moral or doctrinal message they may choose to transmit. They stand stripped of the slightest credibility.

I find it interesting that Tom Doyle mentions Bishop Ken Untener and his words to the bishops about their meetings and their agenda. It was after the death of Bishop Untener, and contrary to his specific warnings in 1993, that the bishops began at their yearly meeting to come out with a statement reminding the married faithful that they were in serious sin if they were practicing artificial birth control and that if so practicing, they were not to receive Communion. Each year the USCCB has repeated this "teaching," finding a slightly different wording each time. When the USCCB first came out with that, after Bishop Untener's death, the vast majority of Catholic people turned them off. They lost their credibility then and there. What the clerical sex abuse crises have done is to reveal just how blind, arrogant, and corrupt they really are. As the Lord said to the religious leaders of his day, "Hypocrites. Whitened sepulchres."
I believe that Tom Doyle is right. Our first job as Catholics in alliance is "to speak the truth to one another, honestly, in love," as St. Paul advised. We must speak the truth to our bishops, honestly, in love - "tough love." There is no saving them, I believe, without our doing so.

I think that all sides in the

I think that all sides in the Church would rather not think about the sexual abuse that has occurred and is still occurring in the church. Sexual abuse distracts from the issues which are much easier to think about and less emotionally disturbing, whether it is the ordination of women or the Latin Mass.Sexual abuse victims are like torture victims - people turn away their faces from them because it is too painful to think about what has happened.

Just so, my friend, just so!

Just so, my friend, just so!

Lee, I am sure you are right

Lee, I am sure you are right about your assessment of various group attention, and of course in any, any, any group of 40,000 men (e.g. U.S. priests)there will be personal issues such as sexual abuse. No reasonable adult would think otherwise.

I can say that I am hopeful the issue is addressed and good safeguards put in place and better admittance policies adopted.

Again I want to remind you and many others that the United States is not the center of the universe. Now I believe that local issues have to be the priority of locals, but in places such as where I reside (Abu Dhabi) this priest abuse issue is far off the radar screen in Christian / Catholic circles. There are other issues afoot in this part of the world that you need only to listen to the news for a few minutes to get some idea about.

Amen, L. Podie! Jesus has a

Amen, L. Podie!
Jesus has a loincloth on the Cross because, then as now, we can admit and talk about and "tisk-tisk" the pain and suffering and humiliation he endured. (Ooh's, ah's and other monosyllables were uttered by audiences as they watched "The Passion of the Christ.)
But the unsanitized reality of condemned men (women weren't significant then) crucified after being ignominiously desecrated is something we don’t talk about much and even less depict in church. Naked on the raised cross, the wounded, useless and soon-to-be-carrion bodies were exposed for all to see, ridicule and know that this was the reward of contesting or even questioning authority.
I am mestizo, a 2nd generation U.S citizen from Mexico on my mother's side, and uncounted generations from Spain and native Tejas tribes on my father's side. I am a child of La Morenita, our Lady of Guadalupe, the Mother of the living God, who came to this hemisphere when the children of God born in this paradise had almost disappeared because of the techniques, toxins and teachings that the first explorers and administrators introduced and imposed with the tacit and somewhat uninformed approval of the crowns and crosiers of Western Europe.
Sadly, the same techniques, toxins and teachings are still accessible, still attractive, still promising - and still so unlike Jesus who told us that he is meek and humble of heart, and asks us to learn from him. (Matt. 11:29)
Pope, curia, hierarchy, brother bishops, clergy, religious/professed, laity, unbaptized, pagan: this is a current popular perception and ubiquitously experienced table of organization in our Holy Mother Church as presented and proclaimed from our mother church in Rome by our Holy Father, repeated in our local and proximate mother churches by our Holy Father’s brother bishops, and echoed by our pastors who are our bishops’ voice and representatives in our parish and mission churches.
Jesus came into our human family from the manger to the cross. He came at a time of emperors and kings, a time of slaves and servants, a time of the privileged and the oppressed, a time of the “chosen” and the unelected. He came to sinners, to cripples, to women, to foreigners, to strangers, to the “least.” He came to us. And he said, “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.” (Matt. 18:6)
Sexual abuse cannot expect repair or restitution. It is like the crucifixion: ignominious desecration, leaving those crucified wounded and useless individuals exposed for all to see and ridicule, afraid and unable to contest or question the authority of those in power and with position who placed them on this cross. Those abused, whether it be by family, friend, trusted one or stranger, cannot and will never be “unabused.” Jesus wasn’t talking “tough love” in Matthew 18;8. He was telling us the truth.
Now what?
“Sexual abuse victims are like torture victims - people turn away their faces from them because it is too painful to think about what has happened.”
Let’s look at each other face to face and honestly tell each other what we’ve experienced in our lives as we yearned for God and goodness. Let us admit that there were some confusing events, some painful experiences, and some questions we still haven’t asked or heard answered. And then, let us realize how radical and revolutionary and revealing Jesus was when he told us to say this when we pray: Forgive us our trespasses and we forgive those who trespass against us.
Paz y Bien, Rolando, SFO.

Tom, your observations

Tom, your observations reflect what you, and I, and virtually every other victims' advocate has weathered for the past ten years, particularly those of us with long attachments to the Church:

  • An overwhelmingly pervasive level of more or less complicity with the sexual abuse of children and vulnerable adults by priests, religious, and connected laity. It happened right under our noses; either we were in severe denial, or we somehow reasoned it away. That is uncomfortable for those of us who've owned up to it. It is intolerable to the majority, who have not.
  • The dramatic irony of these same folks, so progressive on matters of social justice, of theological and of practical reform, being utterly self-absorbed when it comes to dealing with the fact of sexual abuse of others by their peers or their mentors and personal heroes. It is more than they can stand to confront with any degree of candor or honesty.
  • The coping mechanism to "move on" and to encourage victims to "forgive," when that mechanism is in its entirety self-serving.
  • Personal guilt and culpability...as your colleague Mr. Sipe points out, the degree to which celibacy is observed in the breach inevitably means that there are a lot of priests and religious out there with skeletons in their own closets. This makes it difficult to have a "real" conversation on the matter of inappropriate sexual relationships.
  • I vestigial and pervasive clericalism which is tougher to get rid of, because it is the clericalism of those who don't recognize it in themselves. The first person I ever heard utter the word "clericalism" in the pejorative was a (now deceased) Holy Cross priest who was among the most "clericalist" clergy whom I've ever met! Oh, if confronted, he would have denied it. But there you have it. He was also an abuser, to the degree of breaking the Seal of the Confessional to enable abuse of a penitent by another religious.

It is indeed disappointing. Time and time again, I've gone back to individuals who'd I've formerly held in high esteem and found that, when it came to serious conversations about abuses committed by their brother priests or religious, the walls were up and the ramparts manned. They simply cannot look it in the eye.

I can only assume that these are the underlying reasons for the downplaying of the abuse issue at the ACC conference. For too many of the planners, the issue is likely still more uncomfortable than even the nearly-schismatic subjects that they brought to the fore.

"The victims and survivors of

"The victims and survivors of the church’s own destructive forces have joined the ranks of the poor for whom there must be a clear preference if the church is to be what it purports to be, the Body of Christ."

Yes, and let's all remember that many of he "victims" have joined the ranks of the well-off at the expense of he poor in the pews.

Fr. Tom Doyle just figured

Fr. Tom Doyle just figured out that the Vatican II crowd really doesn't care about the abuse victims? I've read through numerous reports and have seen that a very good number of the bishops remembered fondly by the ACC crowd not only covered up abuse but were allegedly abusers themselves. The abuse victims really are exploited by the ideological sides in the Church as a means to smear opponents as corrupt, when, in reality, the entire institution is corrupt. NCR aids and abets the farce that Vatican II (or however its fans remember it) is some sort of solution to the abuse crisis. In reality this abuse has been going on for God only knows how long. Fr. Doyle knows this. Of course there are individuals who mistakenly believe that the Tridentine Mass somehow makes all priests holy and, as a result, all this abuse will disappear. No way! But in the present case, it would be interesting for the ACC to confront its own heroes (such as Dearden, Untener, Bernardin, etc.) on how they mishandled and covered up abuse. I imagine that would be quite painful and would blow the lid off the mistaken notion that Vatican II is the answer to all the problems of the Church.

It could be that in a church

It could be that in a church of 1.2 billion people, there might actually be some OTHER important things happening in the church than talk of sex abuse from 30, 40 and 50 years ago over which the secular press obsesses having covered the story for a decade now ad nauseum.

Genecide and ethnic cleaning

Genecide and ethnic cleaning is going in more than a few areas on but for United States citizens this is not part of our consciousness.

If the Vatican is somewhat insular, the American people (of which probably about 85% do not have passports)as a whole are certainly more so.

And you are so cosmopolite:

And you are so cosmopolite: genecide means "killing of genes" (not yet considered a sin, even by Rome's rules) and cleaning is used in laundries. If you want to mention the killing of a part of a population you must want to say cleansing...

The abuse continues today --

The abuse continues today -- worldwide. It is a problem that did not come up 50 years ago, it came up long ago -- from the founding of the Church until today. The only thing that is different is that this cancer is being exposed to the light of day and its ugliness is made visible.

Until we remember this, and until we decide to just treat clerical abuse like any other (call the cops -- throw the perp's so-forth in jail, try him and convict him) we will keep having this discussion. The bishops need to be treated like any other mandated reporter -- if you don't report, you go to jail. That is a challenge in some other countries, but we can at least sort the issue HERE, where the secular authorities can be held accountable for these prosecutions.

The laity need to hold bishops responsible for the violation of trust their behavior represents. Yes, there are important things happening in the Church, but at the core of many of the issues are clerical arrogance, self-importance, egotism, greed, and obscurantism. Until we resolve the root cause - removing the factors that encourage the development of all of these traits - this is all just going to be a giant game of global whack-a-mole.

--Andy Jo--

Andy Jo, you state "The laity

Andy Jo, you state "The laity need to hold bishops responsible for the violation of trust their behavior represents".

Your statement gives a free pass to every priest who is not a bishop. It is not just a few hundred bishops who have conspired to conceal knowledge of sexual abusers from the public, it is every Roman Catholic priest who contributes to the culture of clericalism.

Do you know of any priest who has come forward and revealed information he knows about the cover-up? I don't know any. Apparently priests have more concern about their Roman-collared club than they have concern for the hundreds of thousands of children who were abused at the hands of their club members.

Most victims remain anonymous, but they can be helped when all the bishops and all the PRIESTS reveal all they know.

You misunderstand -- I am NOT

You misunderstand --

I am NOT giving any mandated reporter (priest or bishop, man or woman religious) a free pass. However, the bishops are the only ones with the power to move the pieces around on the chessboard. They are the ones who hide the offenders and shift them around parish to parish. They are the ones who have most broken the trust, because they allow this to continue and they shield the abusers.

Statistically speaking, there have PROBABLY been priests who have come forward to speak what they knew. I would certainly hope so, although I don't know of any. However, they are in the position of an unprotected whistleblower. If any have spoken, I doubt a record exists of it. If they speak, they get shoved into the last powerless position in the last parish or other institution in the middle of "not here" - wherever "here" might be - unless they get squirreled away somewhere in a diocesan job-ette where they will never see the light of day again.

Not to say that the priests shouldn't speak. There again -- call the cops, and the prosecutors, and have guts to hang in there during the inevitable can of sorrow that the bishop will likely open up upon his head.

--Andy Jo--

"The archdiocese sliced and

"The archdiocese sliced and diced all four main speakers without the slightest idea as to what they would say."
- I find your statement funny, as if the speakers actually had anything original to say. Given who they were, I think it is fairly obvious what they would speak about. If you pop the same, worn out cassette tape from the 70s in your tape player, you know exactly what it's going play.

Please explain to me why

Please explain to me why advocating for 'unchanging Church tradition as it's always been' is somehow novel. Seems to me that would be a far more worn out and over played record.

Once again, Tom Doyle has cut

Once again, Tom Doyle has cut to the heart of the matter in so many ways. If we are to re-build the Catholic church, we need to see where we can effect change at it's core, and this stems from the sexual abuse of innocent children and vulnerable adults by priests and religious. Until we see this anawim as the poor in the church, and treat them as Jesus did the anawim of His time, nothing will change. We, the people in the pews, need to be accountable for this horror and hold the hierarchy accountable. If we love the church, we can no longer pretend that either this isn't happening, or it has nothing to do with us. We are part of the Body of Christ - the Church - and until we live as the extension of Jesus's Body, the Catholic church will not survive.

The truth is that the ACC

The truth is that the ACC supports all kinds of sexual deviance, homosexuality, and divorce and remarriage to name two, and winks at abortion and pedophilia. The only thing they really care about is the impossible notion of women priests, they will use anyone who comes along to try to achieve this goal.

[My friend Paul Kendrick

[My friend Paul Kendrick reminded the ACC and me that the late Bishop Kenneth Untener once said that every meeting should reflect on how their agenda will affect the poor.

The Latin American bishops, before they were decimated by John Paul II, set as a top priority the “preferential option for the poor.”]

May I suggest how this "preferential option for the poor" should reflect on our Catholic Schools.
A “preferential option for the poor” should be maintained in our Catholic
Schools. If we find that we cannot afford to keep our schools open to the
poor, the schools should be closed and the resources used for something else
which can be kept open to the poor. We cannot allow our Church to become a
church primarily for the middle-class and rich while throwing a bone to the
poor. The priority should be given to the poor even if we have to let the
middle-class and rich fend for themselves.
Practically speaking, the Catholic Schools must close and the resources
used for “Confraternity of Christian Doctrine” and other programs which can
be kept open to the poor. Remember, the Church managed without Catholic
Schools for centuries. We can get along without them today. The essential
factor is to cultivate enough Faith to act in the Gospel Tradition, namely,
THE POOR GET PRIORITY. The rich and middle-class are welcome too. But the
poor come first. (William Horan — w.horan@comcast.net.)

For the record: I asked the

For the record: I asked the planning committee of the ACC long before the agenda was set to make sure there was a keynote speaker who could address the greatest scandal in the Church since the Reformation. I volunteered my priest colleague (a VOTF priest of integrity) and I (not a VOTF priest of integrity), who established a non-profit charity to help survivors of clergy sexual abuse, to lead a discussion or workshop or even a keynote about the work we have done since 2002 with victims and those who have abused them. I was informed that not only were we not needed for a keynote, we were not even invited to conduct a breakout session. That wasn't bad enough: I was told that my charity was not as "important" as the survivor group that was invited to conduct a workshop. How was that for a "how-do-you-do?"

Of course the sexual abuse

Of course the sexual abuse victims only got a "passing nod" at this conference. Another article listed six principal speakers, four of whom are male. Each male is either a priest or a former priest. These speakers are or were part of a culture that places the clergy on a pedestal, and still continues to hide all its secrets about concealing known sexual abusers. Concern for the victims of their brother priests just does not exist.

If the ACC is really interested in reforming the Church, it should ask itself why it looks to the ordained for leadership and inspiration.

I was at the ACC and attended

I was at the ACC and attended the breakout session on sexual abuse. My recollection is that all of the guest speakers alluded to the abuse crisis and coverup. The main thrust of the ACC was repeated emphasis on the dire need for structural reform as the only remedy that can end the coverup and continued abuse. I do wish that Tom Doyle had been one of the keynote speakers. Nevertheless, the ACC was prophetic and inspiring, and all the people I spoke with "get it" about the abuse crisis being the number one symptom of the abuse of authority and power in the Cathoic Church.

I was at the ACC and the

I was at the ACC and the breakout session on sexual abuse. Although I wish Tom Doyle had been one of the keynote speakers, I heard all the speakers allude to the abuse crisis including the coverup as the number one symptom of the abuse of authority by Cathlic leaders. Also, all the people there with whom I spoke "got it" about the gravity and centrality of the abuse crisis. The ACC focused on structural reform as being the essential solution to the abuse crisis. The ACC was a prophetic event, a reminder to me that the Holy Spirit is alive and well. I think Tom Doyle's criticism has validity to the extent that neither he nor someone of his credibility on the abuse issue were keynote speakers.

Tom Doyle cuts to the heart

Tom Doyle cuts to the heart of the matter with this assertion: "Their right (the rights of the hundreds of thousands of abuse victims) to justice and spiritual healing is fundamental. It cuts to the very core of what the church is supposed to be about."

Not sure how anyone in today's Church could argue with his point about this right cutting to "the very core of what the church is supposed to be about"--i.e., the right to justice and healing. But what is the "justice" expected from the Church? How is the term "justice" specifically being used? Is it the "justice" that comes with the monetary settlement of claims from survivors either before or after their day in court, or is there more to it? Doyle and others throw the word "justice" around as if everyone understands what is being said. Not sure that is the case.

Father Daniel Groody, CSC (pp.26, 27, Globalization, Spirituality, and Justice) makes my point much better than I possibly could: "Today…the word 'justice' is so commonplace…that it has come to mean everything and nothing. For some, it conjures up images of picket lines and angry protestors. For other, the word 'justice' evokes the image of a blind-folded woman holding scales in one hand and a sword of retribution in the other. For still other, it evokes wronged victims having their day in court. Common to all these images of justice is some notion of vengeance or revenge. Whatever the debatable merits of these connotations, justice from a Christian perspective has an entirely different meaning… God’s justice…is not principally about vengeance or retribution but about restoring people to right relationship with God, themselves, others, and the environment."

It seems to me that if we are talking about "biblical justice," then "healing" is clearly a major component of it. If we primarily talking about a monetary settlement when speaking of justice for survivors, then the best place to start is with our legal system, for that is probably the only place that this kind of justice will be attained. For this type of justice, we need to find the best attorneys available for the survivors to help them in having their claims adjudicated and look for ways to facilitate their attaining of legal counsel. Conferences like the ones in Detroit cannot possibly do much at all in attaining the justice that comes with monetary settlements for survivors.

Breakout session? Funny, the

Breakout session? Funny, the liberals didnt have one on abortion.

With 55 million killed, just in the US, you'd think they might have a little panel discussion on the holocaust they brought.

I am a female survivor of

I am a female survivor of adult rape by a priest in the early '70s. In Spring '08 I approached my willing pastor for assistance after a failed response from the abuser's order in the early '90s. By Fall '09, with the counsel of a diocesan priest, I learned the term "restorative justice" & followed his, my counselor's & my husband's guidance. The diocesan priest taught me that restorative justice not only returns to me all that was taken but encompasses the need for all bishops to acknowledge their guilt. Indeed, I want & need to hear them say, "we were wrong; forgive us".

I chose no legal counsel and in less than 6 mos., I not only received from the offending religious order, an amount equal to my co-pays, i.e., out-of-pocket costs for decades of therapy, but I also faced my aged abuser, in the presence of those who supported and gave me counsel. The eventual result was unexpected - [gradual] empowerment!

The experience described above has shaken me; my faith is wobbly; and when presented with the opportunity to attend a conference addressing a plethora of issues affecting the church, with others from my parish, I did so with great anticipation and expectations. I was not disappointed. My personal high point was "seeing" Hans Kung - the theologian whose name and connection with the exciting Vatican II I had studied in high school.

But I could not face the pain of the breakout session on abuse. Yet I vowed to "do something" to continue to purge this pain: I am asking those responsible for my situation & those in my diocese responsible for other rapes, to release the names of all living & dead abusers. My reason is this: other survivors deserve the chance to reclaim the soul stolen from them by abusers; seeing a name in print can possibly spark the courage to begin that journey. Such a published [incomplete] list helped me to reclaim myself. The journey continues: PTSD lingers long.

And isn't it sad, MJ, that in

And isn't it sad, MJ, that in the Catholic Diocese of Wilmington, Bishop Fran Malooly is still toying with the idea of continuing the financial support of those who sexually exploited individuals, especially children, that has been going on for decades? This issue has appears to be derailing the proposed settlements of the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy filing.

For the record - Fr. Tom

For the record - Fr. Tom Doyle's steadfast work and dedication to the whole
spectrum of this abuse-of-children-and-others-who-are-vulnerable issue, and related matters, are outstsanding by any measure. There is no doubt in the minds and hearts of those who can empathize and have real compassion for the victims and survivors that most of the Church leadership and the membership as well, are willing to be distracted by many/any other concerns to prolong dealing with the significance of this problem, which IS primary. The secrecy
is the clue to the depth of the sickness. I don't know what it will take to wake up the good brains at the center of the leadership. I hope good souls like Frs. Tom Doyle, Bob Hoatson, Dick Sipe, Sr. Maureen, the devoted folks at SNAP and other supportive groups will not be overlooked in the meanwhile,
as they deserve to be recognised for the focus they bring to help us to face
the facts that represent the REALITY of the seriousness of the cover-ups, to
say the least. I for one am overly saddened and angry to see how this issue was dismissed so summarilly by the recent ACC conclave. Sorry to hear that Bob H. got his toes so sorely stepped on! Sincerely in Christ, Elizabeth S.

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