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Censorship is Bad - Always
The Diocese of Scranton and Marywood University recently cancelled a speech planned by Michael Voris, an obnoxious rightwing personality who runs the outfit "RealCatholicTV." Earlier this year, a bishop told me, "Funny thing is that his show is not real and it isn't Catholic."
Now, it is puzzling to me why anyone would invite the spewer of right-wing agitprop to rant on campus in the first place. But, censorship is not the answer. Let people hear Mr. Voris's paranoid fantasies about unorthodox bishops and the USCCB's supposed collusion with the Culture of Death. There is nothing attractive about his rants. The best way to expose a scoundrel is to shine the light of day on him.





I mean get real here!
I mean get real here! Sometimes NCR has actually printed a post of mine & then removed it after people complained about me! This has happened at least three times & maybe more. I lost count! Look who is calling the kettle black here!
One female poster was screaming about the NCR editors, "And they left his (paulte's) offensive post up for two whole days!" I mean like how dare they? Btw, my "offense" was to quote Sigmund Freud on the question of sexual abuse!
If you want to get real, the
If you want to get real, the "real" reason for this blog entry is to appear to look consistent the next time an abortion proponent, or womynpriest, wants to speak on Catholic grounds...of course censorship isn't always bad, its utter nonsense to suggest it is. Would NCR support a child pornographer speaking to a kindergarten class on Catholic grounds?
If things were as sunshine
If things were as sunshine and lollipops as many bishops like to pretend, Voris wouldn't have an audience. He is tapping into genuine discontent. Yes, he goes overboard. Sometimes, waaaay overboard.
But dismissing him--and by extension those who think he has something to say--with well-poisoning labels is the intellectual equivalent of "la la la I can't hear you." The clerical Chip Dillers haven't served us well over the past two generations.
I absolutely love
I absolutely love RealCatholicTV. It is SO refreshing to hear someone telling it like it is. Thank goodness for people like Michael Voris. I am a South African Catholic who is surrounded by liturgical abuses, dissident Bishops and priests and Cafeteria Catholics. RealCatholicTV and other faithfully Catholic blogs, forums and websites are lifesavers!
ClareOfAssisi - keep the
ClareOfAssisi - keep the faith my friend! The truth shines through the darkness! It even finds us here! I am personally friends with Michael and his wonderful coworkers - they are loving and joyful people, who hunger for God. They have enlightened so many souls in the darkness of the corruption in our Church. Keep loving Christ and His beautiful Church - the springtime is upon us! (Find me on FB if you like).
(Almost) blessed John Paul II, pray for us!
I've read about 80 of the
I've read about 80 of the replies in this thread all of them supporting Mr. Voris...perhaps an NCR type that hadn't heard of him before will watch his videos and convert. Thank you MSW for spelling Mr. Voris name correctly!
Thanks, Andrea :). Thank you
Thanks, Andrea :). Thank you for the invite but I do not use any social networking sites. You know, I do not think I have ever heard issues like abortion or contraception mentioned in any of the parishes I have frequented. I have never heard people being encouraged to go to confession or encouraged to abstain from receiving The Eucharist if not in a state of grace. This is just the tip of the iceberg. It's frustrating and disheartening. Even the local Catholic family newspaper is full of anti-Catholic views. It's a relief to know that there IS something called faithful Catholicism out there. That is why I appreciate RealCatholicTV. Thank you for your comment.
God Bless.
Lot of specifics in the slam
Lot of specifics in the slam on it not being real or catholic by an un named bishop. Nothing showing anything he says in specific detail that drives such dislike of him or why he would be denied the right to speak. The liberals in the Church are getting old and cranky. Hard to see their lifetime of dissent being exposed for what it was and also starting to get closer to time when they will have to answer directly to God for thier lifetime of association with the party of death. That has to make them tremble, tremble, tremble...
Frank Cocozzelli posted an
Frank Cocozzelli posted an excellent blog yesterday denouncing Voris with links to videos of Voris's call for a Catholic dictatorship and another where he slanders Rabbinical Judaism. http://opentabernacle.wordpress.com/2011/04/12/broadcaster-calls-for-cat...
And yet, I've posted 2
And yet, I've posted 2 comments on your blog since last Saturday and neither one in posted! Just sayin'...
Ok ... if censorship is
Ok ... if censorship is ALWAYS bad, then where is the comment I posted on your screed from yesterday?
I watch Mr. Voris with the
I watch Mr. Voris with the same regularity I come to NCR...talk about projection, it is here that I see hatred thrown toward Cardinal Burke, Bishop Olmsted, etc. And the collusion fantasy about the Bishops and the Republicans can be read here frequently. Mr Winters needs to look in the mirror and ask is this really why he hates Mr Voris, or is it because his message is indeed Real Catholic?
Great point Anon. Why do you
Great point Anon. Why do you come over here regularly? There is so much beautiful writing about the Church and faith out there! Why waste your time?
I just find NCR so sad and lost...Oh, well, we're all trying to get to Heaven (I hope!)
Mission territory.
Mission territory.
Agreed - let him speak.
Agreed - let him speak.
Perhaps you'll shine the
Perhaps you'll shine the light n that bishop's name.
I watch his videos often. He
I watch his videos often. He does tell the truth. It shows how the National Catholic Reporter is really not Catholic, and neither is the Bishop that made those comments. The school allows many speakers that go against the Church, yet will not allow someone who is trying to get out to the people what is the truth.
Very sad, and the Bishop, and the report, will have much to answer for.
I agree wholeheartedly. I go
I agree wholeheartedly. I go to the NCR when I want to see a foil to the orthodox Catholic periodical. The NCR is a joke!
I agree, National Catholic
I agree, National Catholic Reporter is not Catholic to me. I pray for these people everyday, but Mr. Voris is right on track and it is appalling that he was not allowed to speak, even though a lesbian Pro-choice person was allowed to speak at the college. What a shame. God Bless Michael Voris for shining a light on truth & here's praying the NCR will see the truth eventually.
The left has been telling the
The left has been telling the big lie in open dissent for so long that they actually start to believe it themselves. Then along comes this person with his video's and shows them the reflection and exposes the lie itself. It is not Catholic to them because they left the Roman Catholic Church years ago and did not see the door as they went through with the first open dissent.
A grotesque lack of charity
A grotesque lack of charity should invite one to immediate prayer: Ave Maria. . .
Mr. Winters, Indeed, the best
Mr. Winters,
Indeed, the best way to expose a scoundrel IS to shine the light of day on him. However, be careful of what you ask for, because the glare of the reflection just might blind us, or worse, reveal our own faults and failures.
It would require an act of denial equal to that of the Flat Earth Society for someone to hold the position that some (many) Bishops have not shouldered their responsibility, that the Episcopal Charity arm of both Canada (Development and Peace) and the United States have collaborated with and funded pro-abortion groups and agencies, and that the catechetical efforts of the last 40 years have been an almost universal failure.
Some people are trying to censor those who proclaim the truth of things precisely because the glare is making them too uncomfortable. It is not faithful, orthodox Catholics who fear the light of scrutiny, it is the Judas imitators that try to keep the faithful in the dark.
Yours in Christ.
Spot on with that comment
Spot on with that comment Bear. And as to the comment in the article supposedly made by a Bishop...why not shine that bright light on which one by giving his name?
Bishops offended by what Voris says are terrified and I can't remember which Bishop/Cardinal made the statement that any clerics who dissent from Church teaching are actually doing so because of a lack of chastity. Anyone remember who made that statement? I don't doubt it's truth at all.
Well - charity is apparently
Well - charity is apparently not in your dictionary Mr. Sean. What vitriol! What hate! It saddens me really.
Yes - let's do shine the light of day on Michael Voris!! Millions have already viewed his programming on the internet, thousands hear him speak world wide (and pay to do so - as fundraisers for parishes and groups), and even thousands more visit his website on a daily basis. So yes, I agree very strongly that we should show this scoundrel for what he really is.
I'll tell you what he is. He is a man who loves Jesus, the Bride of Christ and Our Lady with an intensity that is rarely seen today. Someone who, while not perfect by any means, is always trying to grow in holiness. A man who is hard working, dedicated, and would die for the Faith. The number of souls brought back to the Church or converted to the Fullness of Faith by his apostolate through the Holy Spirit (no one does such work alone) is beyond count.
So I'm all for it!! Shine that light big and bright Mr. Sean!!! I think that's a fantastic idea!!!
God bless,
~piercedheart
It's nice to see that you are
It's nice to see that you are so opened minded. I am confused, however, by your liberal vs. conservative take on the faith.
There is only ONE Catechism. There is no such thing as a conservative Catholic or a liberal Catholic. There is simply Catholic. The Catechism is not politically leaning. Catholicism is the one true faith. The teachings do not change based on political affiliation.
Jesus was not a Republican nor a Democrat nor politically correct. God incarnate would not be limited by such insignificant human delineations.
The one, holy and Apostolic Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Christ, it's teachings are uniform, singular and meant for all, no matter if a D or R follows your name.
I would humbly suggest you approach the faith outside of our petty political leanings and, instead, challenge those for whom you disapprove by speaking from the text provided by the Magisterium instead of any talking points for any current political party.
God bless you.
Hmmm, how is the show "not
Hmmm, how is the show "not real"? Seems like the videos all play when I press the play button. As for "isn't Catholic", well - that seems at least uncharitable at best. Although Mr. Voris pushes his points too hard at times, most of his points seem cogent to me. And, unlike some bloggers and press, he goes out of his way to provide links to source documents so that you can make up your own mind.
I do find it interesting that in a roughly 100 word blog post, you managed to pack in:
obnoxious
"rightwing personality"
spewer
"right-wing agitprop"
rant (x2)
"paranoid fantasies"
"nothing attractive"
"expose a scoundrel"
So, over 10% of your words were specifically chosen to be inflammatory and hurtful, yet without at least naming a couple of examples of Mr. Voris' rhetoric that support your strong language.
For a post that is nominally about censorship, you sure spent a lot of time vilifying RealCatholicTV.com and Mr. Voris.
Sure NCR isn't for
Sure NCR isn't for censorship, its for spinning, inflammatory language, confusion, and misrepresentation.
Obviously you bishop is one
Obviously you bishop is one of those bishops Mr. Voris is referring to. Just what is "real and Catholic"? Is it spitting out hate and vitriol about a man that is standing up for our faith? I have researched for myself Voris' claims about the USCCB's collusion with the "Culture of Death" and unorthodox bishops and it is all true. One does not have to dig too deeply at all to discover this. Yes, Mr. Voris is very passionate and some may be put off by this but, I think only those that are blind to the truth or guilty of his charges would find his passion distasteful. I thank God for Mr. Voris and his work of true charity. You are in my prayers, PAX CHRISTI
I find this very amusing
I find this very amusing since Michael Voris has been invited to the Vatican numerous times and told to "get the word out"...our Holy Father Pope Benedict is not happy with the current state of the American church with many flying in the face of True Catholicism...Mr. Voris is an excellent broadcaster with impeccable credentials, whom also had attended seminary.
I believe the real issue behind these statements is that someone is FINALLY speaking out on the plight of the church, recognizing the leftist agenda of weak Catholicism being practiced in many Diocese and the new tide in the American church is that we WANT our church BACK!! Enough of the take over from liturgical dancing to pedophile priests (which actually since the boys are pubescent, this is grooming by an increasing gay situation within the church), meaningless homilies about the 3 Little Pigs and music that is tenamount to "It's a Charlie Brown Christmas" playing while we all wonder if we need to order at the piano bar...hope this will be the end of a very sad era in the church's history!
Thank GOD for Michael Voris, truly a breath of fresh air for those of us who have been suffering and offering up all that we've had to endure!! Plus, the amount of people who have left the faith DUE to this ridiculous "hippie reunion" in the clergy. I sincerely doubt that my views (which are the views of many Catholics I've spoken with) will be printed by those who claim to be "oh, so open minded"...you can spot a liberal a mile away, they fain open mindedness...but you can hear their mind snap shut and their heads turn from you a mile away! Hiding your head in the sand and refusing to hear the "new" movement BACK to CATHOLICISM won't do you any good.
Mrs. Elvira Bates
This article is bogus. Every
This article is bogus. Every single thing Micheal Voris says is in accordance with Catholic teaching. You have a problem with lay people calling out Bishops who are weak-kneed on serious moral issues? Tough. He isn't going away and his supporters are not either. In the situation in Scranton, I have the highest respect for his obedience when the Bishop said he did not want him to speak on Church property. He was forbidden, by the way, from speaking because his own diocese gives him a bad name because he points out their own faults that they don't want to hear.
So you have a problem with his pod-casts. Well, if you really wanted to prove what he was saying is "obnoxious" and "Not Catholic" why don't you review every single one of his pod-casts and make your own pointing out how he is wrong? The answer is you couldn't because this Anti-Catholic Newspaper that sullies the very word "Catholic" by having it in your name, are not of the Catholic Church that Jesus Christ founded on earth, but are part of the "catholic" (small c) church founded by libral discontents who want your sex and your abortion on demand.
Censer that if you will.
-Mary, a supporter of RealCatholicTV
I would check your facts
I would check your facts first Catholic Distorter. Michael Voris and realcatholictv is anything but anti-catholic. The cancellation of speech by the Diocese in Scranton proves the very thing that realcatholictv warns all catholics about being Nice. There is a big difference between being 'nice' and being prudent. I've been watching all the vortex episodes and if you haven't - you'll either agree or be offended- which is likely why this article came about. God Bless! By the way, what bishop said it isn't catholic?..put a face on the charge- that is how you shine the light of day on who isn't really catholic- one that abides by the office of rome.
Is there truly any good in
Is there truly any good in calling Michael Voris, an obnoxious rightwing personality?? Can't you just report the truth without injecting your personal views? Injecting personal views is how people are pushed off the path of truth. Here is the real link to the reason, in which I also agree. There is no need for name calling, just truth would be nice.
"The Diocese of Scranton has determined that Mr. Voris will not be allowed to speak in a Diocesan or parish facility. After these engagements were scheduled, the Diocese became aware of concerns about this individual’s views regarding other religious groups. In videos posted on the Internet, Mr. Voris makes comments that certainly can be interpreted as being insensitive to people of other faiths. The Catholic Church teaches us to respect all people, regardless of their faith tradition.
Although the Diocese shares Mr. Voris’ support of efforts to protect human life, his extreme positions on other faiths are not appropriate and therefore the Diocese cannot host him"
Your little blog article is
Your little blog article is interesting. On one hand you are rightfully saying it was wrong to cancel a speaker who many, many feel is "a voice crying out in the desert." On the other hand, you slam him with words like "obnoxious, personality, outfit, not real, not Catholic, spewer... " well, I could pretty much just put quotations around the rest of the article.
Mr. Voris is unpopular because he points out what is going wrong. His website does many many other great things, but he also, sometimes too sarcastically (I have to say), does point out the bad. The bad needs to be pointed out and eliminated! The bad has lead to record levels of apathy in thy and people leaving in droves. This apathy has lead to a "Catholic" website thinking it's ok to slam a fellow Catholic with such nasty adjectives. Where's the compassion Mr. Winters? Jesus flipped some tables in the temple to rid out the bad, Mr. Voris is doing the same. Jesus never name-called though. Censorship is called for in some places, lets be honest. Books and media are very dangerous and perfect instruments of the Devil, but censorship of Mr. Voris is not needed, just a way of running away from a viewpoint some don't want to hear.
Not to pick points with "a
Not to pick points with "a bishop" but how is it neither real not Catholic? I've watched a lot of his stuff and never found anything heterodox to it. I mean, Voris has his opinions, he has his facts and follows them to a conclusion. If you disagree with that conclusion, ok, well, make your case. To call him 'obnoxious'... well, whatever. Paranoid? Really? Again, he follows a line of thought.
It seems like you just don't like him & what he's saying or how he says it... You haven't really told us why tho...
Are you serious? Not real and
Are you serious? Not real and not Catholic? Mr. Vorlis is a graduate of the University of Notre Dame's School of theology and he is as Catholic as the Pope, with whom he supports and agrees.
Right-wing agitprop? What
Right-wing agitprop? What else do you want coming from a true Catholics mouth, left-wing agitation and propaganda? I knew the Register was horribly "progressive" but this article is very revealing. This is just one more reason to tell everyone I can to no longer read this publication, and I hope that the Church straightens the Register out soon. I believe the astounding articles previously written by this author will shed light on what slant he has on Mr. Voris. Writing a 1,015 word article on how "Obama hit a Home Run" in his April 13th speech, after taking a moment to throw 116 words together in order to bash a man's apostolate. This speech was deemed by the Wall Street Journal as "toxic" and advocated an "even worse plan."
Mr. Winters is terribly leftist in his slanted writing and cannot be taken seriously unless he removes this slant from the Register. How he even wound up working for this publication is baffling. We all know that not every Bishop is theologically sound and free of their own leftist agenda, and even Benedict XVI has mentioned this on numerous occasions. How are Voris' addresses of unorthodox bishops a "paranoid fantasy?" The reason Winters words it this way is because he believes in the same errors that these "unorthodox bishops" do as well. Regardless of attractiveness, Voris is well-founded in his rants and is justifying as a Catholic to be astounded by such tragedy going on in the Church today from within Her. The only people who allow/end this tragedy is...you guessed it, the bishops. But, Winters is a typical leftist Catholic, advocating not being rude over stating the truth as bluntly as possible. http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/how-about-not-wanting-be-rude
Nothing about Mr. Winters' work is "distinctly Catholic." He advocates every liberal Catholic and cause, all of which have been or will be exposed by Benedict XVI and the Holy See for what they are. I think it is time that he decide whether he wants to support the Church, or leave it, because the damage that has been done by him alone is tragic.
@In Voris' Defense - In case
@In Voris' Defense - In case no one mentioned it...we realize you meant to say "Reporter" throughout your comment...not "Register"... Good points regardless! Winter consistently shows us that jealousy, hypocrisy and petty name calling are in his true style and character...and that REAL CATHOLIC anything or anybody almost always makes him spew an illogical blue streak!
Lord have mercy and save us all from the heretical responses to Christ's Truths spoken with boldness, as inspired by the Holy Spirit and aligned with the Magisterium of our Holy Mother Church, as Michael always intends daily!
What are your daily baseline intentions, Mr. Winters?
Right-wing agitprop? What
Right-wing agitprop? What else do you want coming from a true Catholics mouth, left-wing agitation and propaganda? I knew the Register was horribly "progressive" but this article is very revealing. This is just one more reason to tell everyone I can to no longer read this publication, and I hope that the Church straightens the Register out soon. I believe the astounding articles previously written by this author will shed light on what slant he has on Mr. Voris. Writing a 1,015 word article on how "Obama hit a Home Run" in his April 13th speech, after taking a moment to throw 116 words together in order to bash a man's apostolate. This speech was deemed by the Wall Street Journal as "toxic" and advocated an "even worse plan."
Mr. Winters is terribly leftist in his slanted writing and cannot be taken seriously unless he removes this slant from the Register. How he even wound up working for this publication is baffling. We all know that not every Bishop is theologically sound and free of their own leftist agenda, and even Benedict XVI has mentioned this on numerous occasions. How are Voris' addresses of unorthodox bishops a "paranoid fantasy?" The reason Winters words it this way is because he believes in the same errors that these "unorthodox bishops" do as well. Regardless of attractiveness, Voris is well-founded in his rants and is justifying as a Catholic to be astounded by such tragedy going on in the Church today from within Her. The only people who allow/end this tragedy is...you guessed it, the bishops. But, Winters is a typical leftist Catholic, advocating not being rude over stating the truth as bluntly as possible. http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/how-about-not-wanting-be-rude
Nothing about Mr. Winters' work is "distinctly Catholic." He advocates every liberal Catholic and cause, all of which have been or will be exposed by Benedict XVI and the Holy See for what they are. I think it is time that he decide whether he wants to support the Church, or leave it, because the damage that has been done by him alone is tragic.
Amusing! A bishop told you
Amusing! A bishop told you earlier this year that Mr. Voris' show wasn't Catholic, perhaps. However, there have been a number of bishops who have praised Mr. Voris on his work, and that it is indeed Catholic, so I will take the word of those bishops over your anonymous bishop any day and I can at least name one off the top of my head Bishop Bruskewitz.
I tell you what Mr. Winters, stop with the slanderous talk and prove Mr. Voris wrong; afterall, it would be the charitable thing to do if he were wrong, which he is not.
Why not put your journalistic skills to the test and stop with name calling?
Exactly correct "The best way
Exactly correct "The best way to expose a scoundrel is to shine the light of day on him." Where can I send you the sun block Mr Winters?
"His show isn't Catholic?"
"His show isn't Catholic?" It seems to me his show is fiercely Catholic, defending the truth as it's taught by the Magisterium. It simply doesn't conform with the watered-down, cafeteria version of the Faith that so many practice. Keep speaking the Truth, Michael.
Greetings in Christ! First
Greetings in Christ! First off, I would like to thank you for allowing my uncensored comment! Other than the baseless accusations and uncharitable name calling in this "claim" against Michael "the scoundrel" (meaning worthless, unprincipaled, dishonorable, or villainous person)and RCTV, and the fact that you use the absent name of "a bishop" who told you this about them (in which case, far too many bishops have had their own light shown upon their infidelities). I wonder Sir, how you can come to the conclusion that all censorship is bad? Would this also aply to those Faithful Fathers in The Church who had to extract the malignant heresies of The early Church, or were we to give all who wanted to denounce the Body of Christ free reign to say what ever we want to believe in Him? Am I also, as a mother(of 4), to allow any filth or misguidings to my children, or maybe it's ok to just let them be "blown to and fro with every wind of doctrine". By reading your pompus ramblings, I get the notion that you don't even consider the fact that you could possibly be wrong, that Michael's "paranoid fantasies" about the fact that The Church DOES have enemies, always has, and that the TRUTH is the only light that can be shown on them is wrong? If that is the case, than I can appropriately call you delusional at best. It is a reassuring thought that those in high places are now feeling threatened by the truth, and that more faithful Catholics are shining it's light. Nothing Michael says is unbiblical and it is in full communion with what The Church has always taught. So, if it is a fact that you indeed desire to be Catholic, you should really do some homework ,or find another religion! God Bless my friend! :)
"Obnoxious," "rightwing,"
"Obnoxious," "rightwing," "not real and isn't Catholic," "spewer of right-wing agitprop," "paranoid fantasies," "scoundrel."
Wow Mr. Winters. You must really have a lot of pent up hatred in your soul for Michael Voris. BTW ... I have listened to Mr. Voris' show a few times, and I haven't ever heard him opine on secular politics in a way that would warrant the label right-wing. That label is unique to a American secular lexicon and does not transfer well over to the theological or liturgical realm.
I pray for both you and Mr. Voris and ask you to likewise pray for me.
Sounds to me like you are
Sounds to me like you are either deluding yourself or intentionally helping to spread the inappropriate (at its mildest) behavior of what has been happening in our Church. Where are the articles with the counterpoint showing the proof that what he is saying is false? Where are you shining the light of day on him? As a Catholic (not the PC kind or cafeteria style), I want to know the truth. Present it if you have it.
What a truly unchristian and
What a truly unchristian and ugly article. Paranoid fantasies about the bishops, huh? Like all that "imaginary" passing along perverts and covering up for sex offenders that they did, I suppose. Voris is the best thing to happen to our Church in 50 years, and spewing hatred toward him will not shut him, or us, up.
I agree that censorship is
I agree that censorship is not the answer. Let people decide for themselves.
I find this quote strange: "Funny thing is that his show is not real and it isn't Catholic." It isn't real? Have I been imagining it? Have I also been imagining all of the specific references to the Catechism and other authorities of the Church?
What Real Catholic TV and
What Real Catholic TV and Michael Voris make is a great deal of sense. It is disturbing to me that Real Catholic TV's most vehement and vitriolic opponents are Anti-Catholic Catholics.
If what the Church really teaches disturbs or upsets you, then leave---but don't make a feeble and pathetic attempt to pollute the Gospel and all Holy Scripture, dilute its message, and transform Christ's 2000 year old Church into some freakish, leftist, pagan, neo-hippy drum circle.
I see no sign of Christian
I see no sign of Christian compassion here. I hear perjorative terms like "obnoxious", "rightwing" (is this one word?), "runs the outfit" (like the Mafia?), "spewer of right-wing agitprop" (back to the two word version), "rant", "paranoid fantasies", "scoundrel", and in every sentence.
Perhaps we've stumbled on a High Schooler's MySpace page. Maybe it's time we went to a more Christian, much more Catholic atmosphere like ncregister.com
The TRUTH hurts doesn't it
The TRUTH hurts doesn't it Mr. Winters? Michael Voris is not afraid to stand up for his CATHOLIC faith. He may ruffle the feathers of other unorthodox liberals like you with his candid observations but he helps open the eyes further of many of us conservative Catholics. Mr Winters the light of day has shown on your paranoia.
God bless and I pray The Lord will remove the scales from you eyes.
Jim Preisendorfer <><
Concord, NH
We really need to fast & pray
We really need to fast & pray for that poor bishop who said that "RealCatholicTV isn't real and isn't Catholic, might I suggest that real Catholics watch the show and see for themselves how REAL it really is.
It's unfortunate that Mr.
It's unfortunate that Mr. Voris' appearance has been cancelled. It does seem that our universities, both public and private, tend to censor "conservative" speakers more often than they do "liberal" speakers. It's also unfortunate that that you choose to characterize Mr. Voris as "an obnoxious rigthwing personality", "spewer of right-wing agitprop". I'm sorry that you failed to identify the "..bishop" who told you, "Funny thing is that his show is not real and it isn't Catholic." It might have been instructive to know which bishop provided that comment. However, I'm happy to see that you recommend that he be permitted to be heard. Perhaps you should direct your readers to Mr. Voris's website, www.realcatholictv.com ,so that they can judge for themselves whether the information he provides there and the positions he espouses are real and Catholic. After they review Real Catholic TV for themselves, it might provide some fodder for further worthwhile discussion on your blog.
May God bless you now and always.
Pax et Bonum
I find him to speak the truth
I find him to speak the truth yes at time it stings. But it challenges you to find out for yourself what the church really teaches.
The 'obnoxious rightwing
The 'obnoxious rightwing personality' is a sound voice of reason in the Church, a refreshing and much needed breath for many devout Catholics who have been suffocating (if not drowned and lost altogether) under the extremely Protestant culture taken on by multitudes of so called 'Catholics' like yourselves. The one smart comment in the above article is, 'Let the people hear...' because if they heard Mr. Voris, I believe the light of day wouldn't expose a 'scoundrel' so much as a Church in disaray.
NCR, which makes handy table coverings for Easter egg coloring, is nothing more than a paper that continuously feeds anti-Catholic ideology and garbage to its readers. It could do the Catholic world a big favor by ditching the word Catholic from its name, since it is clearly anything but that.
Until then, I look forward to a day when I can actually read edifying Catholic content from this almost useless paper.
The 'obnoxious rightwing
The 'obnoxious rightwing personality' is a sound voice of reason in the Church, a refreshing and much needed breath for many devout Catholics who have been suffocating (if not drowned and lost altogether) under the extremely Protestant culture taken on by multitudes of so called 'Catholics' like yourselves. The one smart statement made above is, ‘Let the people hear…’ because I believe if the people heard, it isn’t a ‘scoundrel’ that would be exposed, but rather the disarray that has all but taken over the Church for the last 40 years.
NCR, which makes handy table coverings for Easter egg coloring, is nothing more than a paper that continuously feeds anti-Catholic ideology and garbage to its readers. It could do the Catholic world a big favor by ditching the word Catholic from its name, since it is clearly anything but that.
Until then, I look forward to a day when I can actually read edifying Catholic content from this seemingly hopeless paper.
The 'obnoxious rightwing
The 'obnoxious rightwing personality' is a sound voice of reason in the Church, a refreshing and much needed breath for many devout Catholics who have been suffocating (if not drowned and lost altogether) under the extremely Protestant culture taken on by multitudes of so called 'Catholics' like yourselves. The one smart statement made above is, ‘Let the people hear…’ because I believe if the people heard, it isn’t a ‘scoundrel’ that would be exposed, but rather the disarray that has all but taken over the Church for the last 40 years.
NCR, which makes handy table coverings for Easter egg coloring, is nothing more than a paper that continuously feeds anti-Catholic ideology and garbage to its readers. It could do the Catholic world a big favor by ditching the word Catholic from its name, since it is clearly anything but that.
Until then, I look forward to a day when I can actually read edifying Catholic content from this seemingly hopeless paper.
Michael Winters. I hope that
Michael Winters. I hope that you live up to your words and actually try to do something about having Voris speak at the university. Also, do you mind telling us who this bishop is who made these comments about Voris? Names or it didn't happen.
The 'obnoxious rightwing
The 'obnoxious rightwing personality' is a sound voice of reason in the Church, a refreshing and much needed breath for many devout Catholics who have been suffocating (if not drowned and lost altogether) under the extremely Protestant culture taken on by multitudes of so called 'Catholics' like yourselves. The one smart statement made above is, ‘Let the people hear…’ because I believe if the people heard, it isn’t a ‘scoundrel’ that would be exposed, but rather the disarray that has all but taken over the Church for the last 40 years.
NCR, which makes handy table coverings for Easter egg coloring, is nothing more than a paper that continuously feeds anti-Catholic ideology and garbage to its readers. It could do the Catholic world a big favor by ditching the word Catholic from its name, since it is clearly anything but that.
Until then, I look forward to a day when I can actually read edifying Catholic content from this almost useless paper.
How someone with a
How someone with a "Distinctly Catholic" blog can castigate Michael Voris is beyond explanation. Talk about a misleading title!
If your reference to "Right wing" includes strict adherence to Church doctrine and the failure (by omission) of some bishops to promote said doctrine, then you have painted an accurate picture of Michael. Bravo.
But it is you who have fantasies if you believe for a moment that we do not have spineless bishops who not only fail to accurately promulgate the faith but by failing to speak out and act out against for instance, those in public office who commit public scandal by acting in direct opposition to Church teaching (whether it be co-habitation, or public support of abortion), teach falsely! Their bad example speaks so loudly you cannot hear their token words!
Michael Voris appeals to many faithful Catholics in the same way that the Tea Party appeals to many patriotic Americans (and I would not be surprised to hear you castigate the Tea Party as well).
God bless Michael for speaking out. The size of his audience speaks to the grassroots movement of millions of Catholics to the side of orthodoxy. Father John Corapi is cut from the same cloth and is being attacked visciously because of it. Interestingly, his ministry has never done better. People are hungry for the "right wing agitprop" that both he and Michael "spew".
And I agree totally when you say Michael should not be censored. Let him speak! Better yet, debate him instead of taking cheap shots at him in your column. Fat chance that will ever happen.
God bless you, brother!
Do you care to explain what
Do you care to explain what Michael Voris is saying that is against the Catholic Church's teaching? This article makes big accusations without providing any proof.
Laura
Welcome to NCR, please don't
Welcome to NCR, please don't come here for things like "proof" or "evidence" blind obedience to the NCR writers is the order of the day here!
That bishop's comment goes
That bishop's comment goes right to the heart of Michael Voris' 'Vortex' pieces on wayward bishops. He obviously doesn't watch the videos.
Let's do it! Let's pinpoint
Let's do it! Let's pinpoint exactly where Mr. Voris deviates from Catholic Truth--specifically, not in 'style'. We can all call each other 'mean' but what really matters is the content of what we say/do relative to Catholic Truth, right? And then for fun we could pick up some columnists from NCReporter and contrast their positions with Catholic Truth. After all, God's Truth is what matters over our opinions, do we all agree? I'll even throw out a few guideposts for Catholic Truth for us to start:
-Abortion
-Homosexuality
-Papal infallibility
-Birth control
-Eucharist
-Virgin Mary (don't see her mentioned too much here on NCReporter, wonder why?)
-Women priests
Just where does Mr. Voris contradict the Church founded by Jesus Christ on any of the above?
With Charity and Kindness,
Templar of Truth
Please provide the "bishop's"
Please provide the "bishop's" name, so that we may follow your advice.
Censorship is the only answer; please consider the arguments presented by Herbert Marcuse in "Repressive Tolerance" (1965) to understand why Marywood University acted as it did and why your disingenuous advice runs no risk of being followed.
Supposed collusion? So all of
Supposed collusion? So all of the documented proof of whom they gave money to and how much money is just a made up fantasy. When you (Usccb) support groups that are anti Catholic, you are anti Catholic. So yes, please let us shine the light of day on what the Usccb is doing with our (not mine anymore) money!
Wow, I guess he's been told.
Wow, I guess he's been told. Seriously, if you're going to provide an opinion piece cutting someone like this, at least have the decency to back it up with more than pretty words you found in your handy-dandy thesaurus. To quote a very good journalist by the name of Michael Coren: "Alliteration is no substitute for accuracy." I hope your subsequent posts are a little better than this.
If the alleged bishop
If the alleged bishop referred to in the above blog knows the Faith he would recognize the problems in the Church that Michael Voris points out in his RealCatholicTV shows. I have experienced personally the same problems Michael Voris points out. You are very cruel in calling him a "spewer of right-wing agitprop" and "an obnoxious rightwing personality". Why are left-wing liberals so afraid of those right-wing conservatives who desire to conserve the Faith as given by Our Lord and taught by the Magisterium for 2000 years? There is nothing attractive about your name-calling and this blog has exposed YOU as a scoundrel and Michael Voris has already shined the light of day on YOU.
I suggest that Michael
I suggest that Michael Winters and the bishop he spoke with go and actually WATCH what Michael Voris has out there. "Obnoxious"? That is not a word I would ever apply to Michael Voris. "Spewer of right-wing agitprop" ? No. Forceful. Yes. 100% Catholic. Yes. Totally orthodox. Yes. Speaks the truth. Yes. We need MORE people of Michael Vois' caliber to counter the liberal garbage that's been taught in the past 50 years, most of which is NOT Catholic. i doubt that that bishop even recognizes what's truly Catholic.
I suggest that Michael
I suggest that Michael Winters and the bishop he spoke with go and actually WATCH what Michael Voris has out there. "Obnoxious"? That is not a word I would ever apply to Michael Voris. "Spewer of right-wing agitprop" ? No. Forceful. Yes. 100% Catholic. Yes. Totally orthodox. Yes. Speaks the truth. Yes. We need MORE people of Michael Vois' caliber to counter the liberal garbage that's been taught in the past 50 years, most of which is NOT Catholic. i doubt that that bishop even recognizes what's truly Catholic.
You indict Michael Voris but
You indict Michael Voris but you offer no cause other than that he criticizes. Michael Voris does a great job of investigative reporting to give grounds for his criticism. So what you are telling me that it is not o.k to criticize Catholic leadership under any circumstance, but criticizing Michael Voris under any circumstance is o.k. Hmmmm.....
If you want to play fair try challenging one of Michael's claims and produce evidence to support your challenge rather than hosting just another hate blog.
"Michael Voris, an obnoxious
"Michael Voris, an obnoxious rightwing personality."
Please do explain in what respect Michael Voris is "right wing." As in "right-wing" Catholic? What is that meant to imply exactly? From the sounds of it one needs to throw a few dissenting opinions out there to belong to an exclusive "independent" Catholic club such as NCR. How peculiar. I think speaking in terms of "orthodox" (something worth striving for) and "non-orthodox" (a position you appear to be wholly satisfied with) would make a whole lot more sense.
"spewer of right-wing agitprop"
What an unusual occassion to use the word "agitprop." I guess this article/blog entry represents left-wing agitprop. I would implore you to provide concrete examples of where Mr. Voris veers from Catholic truth in his media presentations, because it sounds distinctly like you're just taking somebody's word for it.
"The best way to expose a scoundrel is to shine the light of day on him."
Wow! Michael Voris is a "scoundrel" now? What an awful "scoundrel" reawakening passion for the Church, strength and holiness among the faithful. What a "scoundrel" indeed.
"Earlier this year, a bishop told me, 'Funny thing is that his show is not real and it isn't Catholic.'"
What is that supposed to mean? The show is not "real" in what sense? It's presented by a Catholic, discusses Catholic issues, disseminates information relevant to Catholics, and is created for a primarily Catholic audience. What else would you like to see? I am holding you accountable to answer this question since you've taken this curiously anonymous bishop's words to advance your own position on the issue.
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