Church knew the sex abuse scandal was coming

"What the Twin Tower attacks were for the United States," Italian journalist Massimo Franco tells NCR’s John Allen, "the sex abuse scandals are for the Church."

As a matter of fact, there is a critical difference between the 9/11 attacks and the sex abuse crisis that, like bombs rigged to go off sequentially, has now exploded across the entire world.

Failing to grasp what makes these events different explains why the institutional church has still not come to grips with the problem and is unlikely to do so in the near future. That, as they say in philosophy, is a distinction with a difference.

Put in starkly simple terms, the Twin Tower attacks were not predictable while the eruption of the sex abuse crisis was -- on the basis of what church officials knew -- so predictable that traditional moral theology would have discouraged betting against it, as it does with all “sure things.”

The event of 9/11 may be described, in the phrase popularized by Nicholas Taleb, as a “Black Swan,” an “outlier” -- that is, something lying beyond the range of our ordinary experience, whose occurrence cannot be predicted.

“Black Swans” are unpredicted surprises that deliver an enormous destructive impact. They are rationalized later -- that is, experts or executives give “good reasons” that are not the “real reasons” to explain the incidents.

Companies and organizations may not be able to predict Black Swans, Taleb notes, but they can prepare for them and limit their impact.

The notion of a Black Swan comes from the old belief that all swans were white and therefore no Black Swan could exist. This was changed when explorers discovered them along Australian rivers, upending a certainty with a rarity that might be remote but was no less real for that.

The sex abuse crisis is not a Black Swan. Its potential had been known for years by most Church officials familiar with the sex abuse problems of priests that were dealt with, as a matter of policy, discreetly and with little if any curiosity about their causes.

Indeed, in America, the alarm had been sounded as clearly as an air raid siren in the 80s by Fr. Thomas Doyle who, working at the Apostolic Delegation, identified a growing clerical sex abuse problem that, as he prophesied, would cost the church “a billion dollars a year” and a million heartaches beyond, if officials did not respond to it.

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They did not look into it and Doyle lost his job. At the same time they refused to accept Joseph Cardinal Bernardin’s proposal for a study of the sexual conflicts of priests.

Over a decade before that American bishops learned, from the Psychological Study of American priests that they commissioned and funded, that a substantial subset of priests was psychosexually immature -- that is, the latter’s inner psychosexual development lagged far behind their chronological age.

Nothing was done to respond to this finding although it was from this cohort of priests that many sex abusers did arise with tragic consequences for themselves and their victims.

The officials of the church can hardly claim now that they were “surprised” by an event that was in fact “predicted,” thereby taking it out of the Black Swan category into which 9/11 may be placed.

While we await the results of the Causes and Effects Study being completed at John Jay College, we can understand that unless the institution faces the facts as deeply and fully as possible this sex abuse scandal -- whose roots are tangled in ancient and long unexamined structures and policies of the church -- will not be addressed and the victims, as uncomforted as Rachel, will continue to weep.

And it will go on, disguised, discreet. But still there whether anyone care now to admit it or not.

Perhaps church officials look at their years of service as this distinguished person did on his:

“When anyone asks how I can best describe my...40 years at sea, I merely say uneventful....I have never been in any accident of any sort worth speaking about....I never saw a wreck and never have been wrecked, nor was I ever in any predicament that threatened to end in disaster of any sort...”

He added that he “could not imagine any condition which would cause a ship to founder.”

The bishops who pilot the bark of Peter might be interested to know that these were the words of E.J. Smith before he took the HMS Titanic on its maiden voyage into a fierce Black Swan-like night in April, 1912.

[Eugene Cullen Kennedy is emeritus professor of psychology at Loyola University, Chicago.]

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Kennedy's articles make the

Kennedy's articles make the subscription price for the NCR worth it.
Keep up the good work, Eugene.

You read NCR online for free.

You read NCR online for free.

That being the case, you're absolutely right. His articles are worth the subscription.

HOW can One Actually Compare

HOW can One Actually Compare the RCC's Sex Abuse Scandal of Children to 9/11?

I (One who was Sexually Abused by a priest and thrown under the Bus by the RCC institution) see NO comparison between the RCC's Sex Scandal and 9/11.

I was in NYC(I work there) on that fateful day, I saw the Unimaginable Evil unfold before my own eye's.

To make a comparison between 9/11 and the RCC's Sex Scandal AND Cover-up, one would have to than say,
- the Airline Companies knew these 19 terrorists were going to hi-jack their (4)Commercial jets.
- the FAA allowed(gave flight clearance) for these jets to take off and fly to their targets.
- that many "Red Flags and Alarms" (past and present)pertaining to the actions of these 19 terrorists were flagrantly IGNORED and or DENIED on ALL levels.

SUCH WAS NOT THE CASE ON 9/11 !

The Sex Abuse of Children and its Cover-up have become both Systematic and Systemic within the RCC, long before the laity realized what was actually happening under their noses and to their Children. READ ANY GRAND JURY REPORT, VATICAN DOCUMENT, VATICAN "SECRET/CONFIDENTIAL" LETTER TO BISHOPS and you will understand...Everyone in the RCC knew what was happening or actively Ignored what was happening. In fact, the RCC developed Policies, Writing Instruments(Instructions/Confidentiality Agreements) Intervention Teams of Priests and Nuns to SILENCE the Victims and their Families.

The Pedophile priests are very sick individuals. I will liken them to the 19 Terrorists that hijacked the planes.

The Pope, Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, Deacons, Nuns, in other words, the RCC Institution; I will liken them to the Airline Companies, FAA, Airport security etc. they Actively Covered up the Abuse, whether by Omission and or Co-mission. DOES THIS IN ANY WAY COMPARE TO 9/11?

The Institutional RCC is NOW in an "ALL OUT WAR" with its' own Victims. Why?, because we are no longer Silent and the RCC will do everything to protect its Image from the real Truth of what truly happened and is happening. That is why the RCC has spent and will continue to spend $Millions$ fighting their own Victims from obtaining Justice by changing the state laws so we can EXPOSE the Truth and the RCC Secret Files.

9/11?
There is NO comparison between the RCC's Sex Scandal and 9/11, Except that we are dealing with Foreign Agents which are committing Crimes Against Humanity on our shores.

A Bishops allegiance is with the Pope and Vatican(country). A priests allegiance is to his Bishop.
They continually break our Laws and International Laws and invoke Diplomatic Immunity as their shield.

Thanks Eugene!

This was not a comparrison.

This was not a comparrison. It was a contrast. Read again please...

They were both caused by

They were both caused by evil.

9/11 was caused by an external evil.
The RCC failure to deal with the sexual abuse is and continues to be an internal evil.

RJ

"Kennedy's articles make the

"Kennedy's articles make the subscription price for the NCR worth it.
Keep up the good work, Eugene."

Let me second that motion. We are witnessing the traditional Church's Armageddon. Those who should be the most prepared for it; who should have seen and interpreted the signs, will never hear the blast of the trumpets.

Yes. What Kennedy says is

Yes. What Kennedy says is sadly true.

However, one grows weary of hearing from the experts on the RCC about what has and is wrong now, and probably will be wrong in the future, and about what the faithful need from the episcopacy of the RCC to correct the problems. Especially as the episcopacy shows no indications in any way that I can see, to do anything beyond window dressing changes. Changes that are non-substantive. Changes that are obfuscating. Changes that are not really changes. Just smoke and mirrors.

What we really need is for the experts to recommend a strategy that will actually give the faithful a Vatican II Church. A Church with Transparency and Accountablity for All. A Church with Collegiality for the non-ordained and the ordained. "All" is everyone, from the Pope down and the pews up. It seems that every time an expert gets close to doing that, the article ends.

Experts should give us their expertise. There's not much wrong that we do not know. What we need is advice on how to actually put the solution into place. And so far, and it seems to be apparent in the future, pleading with the episcopacy to make those changes isn't going to do the job.

So, Experts, instead of Enduring, what should we do?

The hierarchy will continue

The hierarchy will continue "business as usual" as long as they have the money to continue. As harsh as it sounds, withholding money is the only way the laity will get the attention of the RCC hierarchy. Monetary conttributions is the ONLY voice we have.

The hierarchy know all too

The hierarchy know all too well your cash and your footwork are your most powerful weapons for reform.

Cardinal Rigali of Philly may be discovering this sooner rather than later.

Ordinary catholics are

Ordinary catholics are trained to do what they are told by the church hierarchy, rather than what they know is right.

And that is what keeps you in chains and ineffective. The hierarchy, like all examples of rampant clericalism, will only do what is expedient, and what is in their best interests. They may talk about the right to life, but they have no intention of actually respecting anyone's human rights, especially not creatures as insignificant as the innocent children of obedient catholic parents.

To make a difference on this issue ordinary catholics need to disobey the criminal hierarchy and refuse to fund their luxurious lifestyles or give credence to their delusions of infallibility.

Be assertive, not submissive. Speak out about your concerns, don't defer to these monsters so undeserving of their position and your respect.

They are not holy or godly. Many of them are barely human.

They are so very, very wrong. It's time for you to tell them what is right.

You don't need experts. You only need a brain and a heart undistorted by twisted morality. And to not be a narcissistic psychopath.

They have the power, the money, the structure to make any changes they want. The only thing lacking is the will to change.

And only catholics can deliver the incentive to give the hierarchy that will.

By withdrawing your support. And refusing to give them another cent until they implement changes.

Then watch how fast things can move when they are not just pretending for the cameras.

My husband is 87--he was

My husband is 87--he was molested as a child by a priest--who was sent to Arizona for his "health"--and they are trying to say they didn't know this was a problem until recently?

Thank you, this abuse has

Thank you, this abuse has been going on for centuries.

I know victims who were sexually abused in the early 1940's. ..and yet church officials blame it on the 1970's sexual revolution.

Only a few years ago, we did not have cars, planes, or computers. People did not travel far away from their own little communities. The victims thought they were the only ones. They had no one to tell about their abuse by priests.
Who would have believed them... and to this day, there are still many who do not believe this is actually happening within their church system of secrets and cover ups.

Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director, 636-433-2511
snapjudy@gmail.com
"Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests"
http://www.snapnetwork.org/

I;m sure Judy will put you in

I;m sure Judy will put you in touch with one of their in house lawyers as long as they got a big cut.

Excuse me, which organisation

Excuse me, which organisation is obscenely wealthy and routinely sacrifices the safety of innocent children to protect it's assets and reputation, and which is a self help organisation run by volunteers trying to help those same children whose suffering they understand only too well?

You certainly should be afraid to own such an abhorrent comment, anonymous!

Only a catholic apologist could be so morally bankrupt and so repugnantly smug.

Any money the lawyers can get

Any money the lawyers can get from the hierarchs is well worth the price.

Make 'em pay!!!

We are trying to deal with

We are trying to deal with legal and moral behavior here. The legal lines are relatively clear. We are so far behind in the area of sexual morality that we have no consensus where we stand on the many questions related to sexuality. The Catechism of the Catholic Church is outdated in this area. Perhaps we should look more respectfully at the work of Salzman and Lawler and not dismiss these thinkers out of hand as many of our bishops have done.
JR

The legal lines may be clear

The legal lines may be clear on paper and codification but that does not mean this will be clear and consistant in practice regarding enforcement. Quite the contrary.

More unadulterated truth

More unadulterated truth revealed for us Truth Seekers..
The mere appearance of a "Black Swan" one must be sooo overwhelmed by it's beauty that the value of safety ran amok by not securing enough lifeboats for the mass of voyagers aboard that seafaring vessel .
Hmmmmmm........time to ponder.......time to wonder....as I wander.......

Eugene does it again. What

Eugene does it again. What insight. Especially the black swan. Tom Doyle proof positive. And since Eugene was doing studies on seminarians as early as the 60s he certainly knows what he is talking about. Great article. Great author. Great service to the Church. Because of articles like this I just subscribed to NCR. The NCR is the last hope that the Church will ever change its ways. I am not optimistic. Glad you are still in there fighting to change it. I keep thinking of the Wizard of Oz whenever I think of the Vatican. Then I pray for these very flawed mortals in the Vatican. I have never seen such stupidity in managing a crisis. And it continues. And if you know anything about the psychological profiles of priests it is completely understandable. But not excusable. Like any other criminal, priest abusers need to be forgiven, as we throw them in jail for their crimes.

This has been going on since

This has been going on since who knows when. I was abused by a priest in the early 1950's. He had grey hair by then, so when did he start abusing kids.

"The Church knew" may be an

"The Church knew" may be an overstatement, in the sense of "who" in the Church needs to know for the Church to truly know.

It is clear that certain clerics in the trenches and at the Vatican Embassy knew ... but unfortunately it does not follow that anyone with the necessary levels of authority and power knew. It is not clear that the Holy Father knew, or that the correct executive level officials in Rome knew. The Church is a bureaucracy, and like any other bureaucracy, possibly more than others, every bureaucrat knows what's his job and what's not his job. What's gossip for some may be vital information calling for action only in the eyes of a few, officially speaking. The American popular image of a fully informed Pope who is free to focus attention on any particular problem is, I fear, far from accurate. All problems on all continents are ultimately under his authority, but there are only 24 hours in a day, and what filters up to him is ultimately determined by others.

The one thing we do know, when finally the matter impressed itself upon then Cardinal Ratzinger (JP II's 'rottweiler'), Cardinal Ratzinger engineered a transfer of authority over the subject from one Congregation over to his own Congregation, and things within the authority of the Church to accomplish began to be accomplished. Too late, yet better late than never.

Meanwhile Fr. Doyle was maltreated (rocking the boat, denying the efficacy of ordination), his work wrongly ignored by (in addition to by US recipients) some one or more who could if they had risked what happened to Doyle happening to them, have ultimately put it on the Pope's desk during a requested 2 hour conference on the topic. The root problem, of course, is that successful abusers have doctoral degrees in manipulation, and are skilled at making their Bishops see them as very successful priests who wouldn't harm a fly. "It can't be true" is too often the knee-jerk reaction of the employer of an abuser. Yet those who ousted him Doyle likely were unable to accept his conclusions (he let those lawyers get to him with what has to be their lies) and/or were 'chicken' about raising the topic with those above them who might or might not simply fire them in turn.

Fault in these regards likely rests upon one or more in New York, Washington, and Rome in proportion to what they knew, and more particularly what it is that they failed to do to kick the matter upstairs with authority, to authority.

The Pope knew! It's evident

The Pope knew! It's evident that all of the popes in the last part of the 20th century knew of priest abuse. Have you not heard of "Crimen Sollicitationes." (Sorry, but my question mark is broken.) "Crimen" was the document that the Pope sent out around 1982, to all of the bishops of the world, instructing them how to interrogate accusers of priests and threaten them with excommunication, if they revealed the contents of their interrogations about being molested, raped or sodomized by members of the clergy. All of this was done to save the Pedophile Priest, Monk or Nun from embarrassment and the Holy Church from SCANDAL. After Father Tom Doyle's report, suddenly archdioceses all over the world started to take out millions, if not billions of dollars in insurance to protect them against impending lawsuits. Sorry, my friend, but I think that you're living in a bubble, if you think that any pope, bishop or cardinal didn't know about this travesty of justice and most grievous sin!

Thank you, Jeannie - I hadn't

Thank you, Jeannie - I hadn't heard about "Crimens" before. I am dumbfounded. Just when I think we can't possibly learn anything worse about the actions of our Church's leaders, something like this sees the light of day and we see how stupid we have been to have trusted them at all about anything.

Let's see - these leaders live on Mt. Olympus where they are virtually completely removed from the world of ordinary people. They have their own culture and pretty much interact just with others of their own kind. They are primarily interested in maintaining (1) Mt. Olympus and its culture and (2) DOCTRINE. There is really little evidence that they are at all interested in the lives, sorrows and needs of human beings. Maybe it's time to stop hoping it could be different and start looking elsewhere to find a place where WE could be paid attention to with understanding and tenderness. Somehow or another I had gotten the idea that that latter was Jesus' intent.

Jeannie, please, please

Jeannie, please, please excuse the length of this reply, and permit me to explain my perspective and view of the overall situation. It appears to me you view the matter as far more simple than I do. It all has to do with bureaucracy of government, and the nature of the responsibilities of any given person. Take a look at for a summary of the document. And the document itself is at
To a victim or relative of a victim of sexual abuse hardly anything in life is more important than the question of dealing with abuse. At an earlier stage in my professional life I was a prosecutor who dealt with such matters and have had an opportunity to meet a number of victims and take two academic courses on this sort of thing. I do not denigrate these matters. On principle I am opposed to the death penalty; but I am also aware both that sexual abuse is right up there with major felonies in terms of wrongdoing, and that the problem is rooted deep in the genetics of the offender. (That 'rooted' in genetics is a somewhat recent psychiatric/psychological near-consensus, but was nowhere near a consensus in the 1960's.)
Now bureaucracy presents its own systemic problems. President Obama, for example, is responsible for the entire Executive Branch, for the concerns of millions of people, for relationships with other nations, for the relations with Court and Congress, for everything we do. If a Lieutenant in Afghanistan murders six civilians, it likely only comes to the attention of the President if he reads it in his morning news summary prepared by others. When it does percolate up, he tells DoD to deal with it and frankly must then forget about it. I also expect the President does not have time to read everything he signs, let alone what's presented as routine administrative tweaks. He delegates preparation for signature to others he trusts. (I've even had my mayor look at me and say, 'now you're telling me I should sign this, right?')
The internal apparatus of the Vatican and the rest of the Church is another large bureaucracy scattered more widely, which is probably but not certainly smaller than the U. S. government (I could not readily find a count of employees and appointees), and there are Curia, Synods, Conferences, all the same international relations, and for the provision of Church to a far larger number of people than live in the US. There are at least 400,000 priests (over a thousand per day). Catholic and other Christian church personnel are far more likely to become victims of violence somewhere in the world, than are American personnel not in the active combat military.
As you might not be aware, and because the Vatican grew up as a European-based institution, the internal system of justice of the Church in Canon Law written primarily by Europeans is akin to the Continental European (CE) model of court systems. In the CE system Judges actively investigate matters, rather than sitting on a bench waiting for attorneys to call witnesses. The CE trial is in part a process of the parties reviewing and commenting on the Judge's investigation. Thus the CE process more resembles the creation of municipal or state personnel and criminal reports, or personnel matters in private businesses or local governments, than an American court process. These sorts of things in the CE & US are considered private until until the matter is resolved, and as to municipal and state systems that's law. Crimen Sollicitationes specifically and technically directed that the Canon Law procedures respecting soliciting sex in the Confessional were to be used for other cases of alleged sexual misconduct. It did NOT require that confidentiality be maintained outside the Canon Law judicial process. Crimen Sollicitationes did not even address a Bishop's deciding to give notice of an original complaint to the State, except with regard to what was being revealed in the CE-ish judicial process itself as to which he himself was not necessarily privy.
However, as prosecutor (and later the boss of a department) I was responsible for municipal ordinances and contracts; and for advising mayor, council, the police and fire departments, the planning and zoning folks, the road folks, the airport folks, the garbage folks, etc. etc. etc. At times there were official meetings 6 or 7 days a week. Thus while I was in charge of all legal matters including preventative action of the municipality, I could not begin to be familiar with everything.
If it came to my attention that that Officer X had conducted himself with the public in a manner that was wrong, it was expected that I would tell the Chief. The Mayor might or might not know about the situation, but he along with Council was the 'client' authorizing what I did, and the Chief remained the responsible party. I was in the mode of who in the City I should work with or notify about something, and only with the biggest matters should I devote my time. The Chief on the other hand was concerned with running a police department, and if he found out Officer X was messing up, he might or might not bring it to my attention or the Mayor's.
My Municipality was/is minuscule by comparison with the Church, maybe a gnat compared to the planet. The Pope is a 'pastor' to over a billion Catholics (and if he were to pay attention to each's well-being once a year, he'd have to review 2.8 million a day). Today Catholic Christians are being murdered in various places all over the world. A Catholic government minister in Pakistan has been murdered presumptively, at least, by one of the Muslim radicals who are persecuting Christians generally. Hindu radicals are persecuting Christians in India. The relation between the Church and various governments, including China (over another billion souls) and Viet Nam, is in a state of flux, opportunity, danger. To go back to the 1960's, JP II was involved not only with such matters but also such things as the post-colonial African political stew, the Latin-American political stew, and the delicate matters fostering the collapse of the Soviet Union and peaceful overthrow of governments in Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Moldavia, etc. the former Soviet Bloc, all for what would be perceived trying to liberate and and rescue and/or convert billions of people. And then there was the possible joyous pain in the neck of running the local joint and being pastor to its people.
Thus an inquiry about how to handle an accusation of molestation coming over the signature of someone in a Diocese in the United States, might not rise to the level of the Holy Father in any real sense. Personally I am not persuaded the matter was really firmly in mind of anyone way up the ladder until Ratzinger got the disciplinary matters taken away from the Congregation for the Clergy and into the hands of his Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith after he realized the matter was wide spread. I think it took Ratzinger to connect the dots that this in the aggregate was right up there in importance to the Church as a whole.
Until that time the whole thought of subsidiarity would dictate that grievous as the matter was, the folks lower down the hierarchy should be fixing it, and someone else lower down tweaking official procedure to clarify how to do so. Crimen sollicitationis may have been issued in the name of the Pope, and prepared by the Holy Office, but based on working for a Senator for a while when fresh in college and subsequent endeavors, I expect some relatively minor clerk was told by a slightly less minor official to tell Bishop X to follow the rules for soliciting in the confessional, and write something that does that. It would have been reviewed by a boss and shuffled up for signature by Cardinal Ottaviani. It may or not have been the only thing requiring Cardinal Ottaviani to act that day, but it's likely it came up among others. The Pope may well have said words like ''now you're telling me I should let you sign this, right?'

You obviously don't read

You obviously don't read much. Recently released written communication from Ratzinger's office revealed that the highest levels at the Vatican knew and have known for quite some time.

No matter what the Vaticanes

No matter what the Vaticanes say that they believed/didn't believe/knew/didn't know, will anyone in her/his right mind actually give credence to anything they say? Animals (vaticanes)caught in a trap will do anything, including bite off the trapped limb, to save themselves.

I'm unimpressed by the

I'm unimpressed by the comments of retired Pastoral Associate and Paulte
minimizing the extent of the sex abuse crisis in the Church. Last week we got a further inditement of several priests, including one diocesan official, for such abuse. We don't have all the details but we can look at the previous scandals in the same diocese and the prosecutions in 2005 to get a pretty clear picture. SNAP have a fairly complete account of the investigation at that time which leaves no doubt as to the responsibility of the hierarchy.
What is most impressive about the account is that the lead investigator in the case who was a Lutheran was so impressed by the many excellent priests he met in the course of his work that he now attends the Catholic Church!
But don't feel bad: I had the same initial reaction to the abuse reports but having read the various accounts in this and other dioceses, I cannot deny the facts any longer.

Let me make myself plain: the

Let me make myself plain: the abusers ought with 20:20 hindsight have been handed over to the police with a request for prosecution, at least once the matter of setting a precedentfor the Soviet Bloc for the Bishops to cooperate with the arrest of politically annoying priests was past. "Fault" as such rests upon those who actually knew (or were grossly negligent about not knowing, and did nothing. My comment was focused not on the extent of abuse, which is appalling, but rather on the nature of bureaucracy (government, corporate, or church), and the firing of Doyle being evidence of that nature.

What happened to Doyle 'proves' Doyle's boss was worried he himself would get fired if he tried to make anything out this lawyer-stuff. (And where does he get off slandering the wisdom of Bishops?) And that's the nature of bureaucracy. Every layer of bureaucracy has an instinct not to rock the boat, not to spread 'disloyal rumors' that something's wrong with the whole operation. And down from the top are coming messages of subsidiarity. The local Bishop is THE authority on what's local in scope. And so it all goes right back to the Bishops faced with arch-manipulator perps who know all the right Bishop-buttons to push. So human, so very appallingly human. And everywhere people are afraid of rocking the boat and proving they can't manage their own responsibilities.

It's not that no one cared; rather it's that for the longest time by human nature and bureaucratic nature it was insulated knowledge, each an island on which were located a priest and his Bishop, in a sea of theology of ordination, the priest also a post-graduate manipulator of parents, children, and Bishops. Tragic.

No better scenario for an abuser can be found. And it's bureaucracy at work, not Church per se.

There has been abuse for

There has been abuse for centuries, but of course, in the old days, it could more easilly be covered up. Modern media, a less docile laity and of course, some of those "greedy lawyers" resulted in the abuse no longer being able to get covered up and surpressed.

Many Bishops have played dumb when the ugly truth comes out, but I suspect that they knew a lot more than they admit. If I were a Bishop [terrifying thought}, I certainly would want to know who my "problem priests" were, and I would keep a close eye on them. I think most people would do no less. Of course, playing dumb is no defense at all. If you are in command, you should know what is going on in your organization. Cardinal Law attempted to flow down the blame to subordinates who gave him bad advice. I am sure they did in fact give him bad advice. That is not a defense. We have heard so often from the Trads that "The Church is not a democracy." Well, if that is so, then the blame rests with those in charge; i.e the Bishops. Authority and responsibility go together.

Actually, a lot of abusive

Actually, a lot of abusive and bad things have been going on in the church for centuries. Those things were hidden from lay Catholics since it is a clerical club and it takes care only of clerics in most cases.

Anyone can tell the truth up

Anyone can tell the truth up to the moment when another person tells it for him.

Why have so few popes, bishops and their curia failed to speak the truth before that "moment" arrives?

Well, all of us mostly act from habit. And when the lifelong habit has been to parse the truth or not to speak the truth, it is no surprise that the "moment" overtakes us.

Often much time passes before the "moment" arrives but when it does there is no credible remedy--whether one makes religion, or makes cigarettes, or makes defective vehicles, or makes unjust war, or makes subprime loans, or makes false Medicare claims.

I think of salt losing its flavor, of having strange gods before us.

And then I remember the cross and grace and hope, and Romero, and Roncalli, and Cammara, and Day, and Drexel, and the countless host of anonymous women and men and children who have gone before us marked with the sign of faith.

And I remember Kierkegaard's question: "What would a man be like if he did not lie?"

Thank you, Anonymous, for

Thank you, Anonymous, for pointing out some of the real heroes of the Church. They, in addition to my faith in the Resurrection of Jesus, are why I am still a Catholic and a priest. No doubt, these same solid reasons are keeping many disaffected priests and laity in the scandal-ridden Church.

By the way, the best way to get to the hierarchy is through their pocketbook. Stop giving. Then they will all wake up and smell the coffee.

Dear Fr. Ray, And you call

Dear Fr. Ray, And you call yourself a priest. " Stop giving " Destroy the Church because that is what your god PRIDE wants. You can leave anytime and do not let the door hit you on the way out!

Very Simply... They are

Very Simply...

They are hoping, praying and fighting their own victims for the moment NOT to Arrive.

Just like any other Criminal !

at this point in time, Comments like yours, scare me.

In 2010, Father Tom Doyle

In 2010, Father Tom Doyle wrote A SHORT HISTORY OF THE MANUAL about the 1985 report he and two others prepared for the US bishops. It amplifies Eugene Kennedy's article. The history provides insight on the mid-1980s situation and the clear foresight of its authors. One striking part is a 1992 response to a Doyle letter by Archbishop Pilarczyk, President, NCCB/USCC (p.21). He rather dismissively points out that the report contributed nothing new since the bishops had already known and done so much (and other institutions were just as bad in child sexual abuse). It was ten years after that letter before Law was driven out of office and the bishops were induced to hold their Dallas meeting. Revelations since then make one wonder what Abp. Pilarczyk may have had in mind when he said "it has never been our intention either to hide the problem or to walk away from the problem" and " … hear our pain. … their bishops … are as hurt and angry as they [the victims] are…".

I like the article, but the

I like the article, but the 9/11 metaphor fails. At least for those of us who were in the area for the FIRST attack on the WTC.

We knew they'd try again.

Here's another example of

Here's another example of "the Church's" typically BOLD MORAL LEADERSHIP:
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I think that I'd call it "The

I think that I'd call it "The Church's Bold, AMORAL Leadership," even though I think that you meant it as an understatement.

"a substantial subset of

"a substantial subset of priests was psychosexually immature -- that is, the latter’s inner psychosexual development lagged far behind their chronological age." Yes, in working with diocesan parish priests, I have known this to be, sadly, VERY true.

Re: the 'twin towers imagery:' Yes, when one considers that PETER and PAUL are comparable images of the 'twin towers' [of faith] of the Church. An interesting sort of imagery, especially since one was married (Peter) and supposedly enjoyed a healthy marriage/family relationship; and the other (Paul) was not, yet Paul is the one who supposedly spoke and wrote most about sexual passions, directing these toward marriage, etc.

Well said Linda; when one

Well said Linda; when one considers the early entry into seminaries of many, with the imagery of Mary replacing the tangible warmth of mother.
The natural love between son's and mother's are well recorded, a fore runner to the love within marriage.
There will always be a percentage who will never marry, within and without religious life but unfortunately the latter has been taught to be the higher calling.
A pity really, as we would all be aware of priests who have struggled to live up to their vocation at the cost of others.

Well I for one am sure & at

Well I for one am sure & at the point of no re-turn to RC...
One can clearly see how the RCC has treated clergy abuse victims and Tom Doyle...
Only Lords knows what goes on unseen!
There is no turning back for me.

Deanna, as a former

Deanna, as a former seminarian naive and fully committed to the RCC, I am, as are you, "...at the point of no re-turn to RC." You stated, "Only Lords knows what goes on unseen!" I don't know all that goes unseen, but I know enough. I saw filth and corruption in Catholic religious life that I simply could not believe. I served many years in the military, and never observed any behavior that came close to the immorality I saw in the Church, and it was COVERED UP BY SUPERIORS.

Before I left religious life I blew-the-whistle on a pedophile priest. As a result my superiors detested and mistreated me; for breaking the 11th Commandment, "never snitch on another cleric." This is the reason many good priests do not speak-up. I am now free from the Church I once loved, and the pedophile priest is in prison.

My experience took place prior to Dallas, Boston, and Philadelphia. After all of that, the Church has not changed (you will know them by their fruits), and will not change in my lifetime. That being said, I have never strayed from Jesus Christ. Currently I am married and considering joining the "Orthodox Church in America" (as a layman). The RCC recognizes their sacraments as valid.

The proverbial "Floodgates"

The proverbial "Floodgates" are open. You're in good company, my friend!

Thank you Eugene Cullen for

Thank you Eugene Cullen for your 'take' on the topic. I enjoyed your weaving of the comment by E.J. Smith into the piece, masterfully!Lately I have been interested in the image of a small door, an image which came unbidden. The Vatican does everything so BIG, except telling the truth. So it's not about Vatican bragadocio (empty boasting), it's a tiny door and it's about to be opened. This will transform the Vatican into a museum. As a famous therapist once said to me, 'you've seen a lot of pain, and you've read a LOT of books'. He was right and I hated him for it. So I make no special claims except that I once knew a deep intimacy with my G-d...I fell apart...Humpty...Dumpty. No, think, Gideon. I so want to call down fire from on high, but it's not time yet. Firstly, I need to return to Jeshua, to be held and healed.The tiny door will be opened and the Vatican will become a museum. The Pontiff will flee...with his handsome secretary.

Regarding who should have

Regarding who should have been told and who should have known: one doesn't hear what one does not want to hear.

What has not been addressed

What has not been addressed is: What becomes of a convicted priest and what options do they see for themselves? There are clearly not enough non-pastoral options for these men within the Church. Perhaps while they are serving time they should also be attending college or vocational programs to prepare them for other meaningful work with which to carry on their lives. Being a victim is no picnic but being a sorrowful sinner who must re-make one's relationship with God is also a difficult row to hoe. Perhaps if they could see a meaningful way forward, they would more readily take the the hard first steps of admitting wrong and then reconciling with society and their victims.

Dear Eugene Cullen Kennedy,

Dear Eugene Cullen Kennedy, There was a Bronze Plate on the Titanic which paraphrasing read: " The Ship Titanic is built so strong that not even God can sink it." Why is anyone so surprised about sex abuse? It happens among all peoples on earth and much more than we are willing to admit. Like the placard on the Titanic many of us think we can get along without God and when we ignore Him we open the door to Satan. Look at all the hideous sins being committed so frequently. We need God every second of every day-without Him we are nothing and so weak. It is truly sad that so many blame the Catholic Church for the sins committed in the name of Satan. God help us is my prayer!

The absence of truth in these

The absence of truth in these matters are deceptions, which too many did in fact suspect.
nI 2003 my niece married and the ceremony back east, I had the distinct pleasure of reminiscing with men of my age (60) who in facts as I, are committed Catholics. These men, a dozen or so, took orders in the Church and spoke of the coming disclosures and knew of some heinous men who committed the unthinkable. They suggested two books on the rising tide of anti-Catholicism which addressed this phenomena. Aquinas's "Summa Theolcicae" speaks to three sexualities in man, I give no quarter to the men or women who abuse children, none..
This treatise supports unfortunately some of the present deviany found in clusters of the world but found the ideas in the Summa to provide a conscious logic to that which we all reject.
I spent 18 years in study in Roman Catholic schools and University, and I never saw it once; nor within a limited community with the Trappists, never saw what has been reported. I am in great solidarity with the men and women who do nothing but what God and the Redemption of Jesus Christ commands, the other men I pray for their souls. There is no legitimacy to the heinous acts, there is however, a responsibility in the converse, to support those who you know to be the real thing. Sic Transit Gloria

What if the truth is simply

What if the truth is simply this: the clergy do not believe in the Jesus Story.

They know it to be myth. They know it to have no power. They know that they are simply mythologists and therefore have no Real Faith. They know that ultimately, they are spiritual con men.

If this is the case, then raping children makes cold, hard, calculated and reasonable sense, as evil and incomprehensible as it is.

At that point, they will have manuevered themselves into a power position by simply qualifying for a collar. What if Christianity, as we know it, is not real? What if the Gospels were broadsides only, written by a group of sub-sect Jews who were seen as apostates in Jersualem by the priests and saduccees and pharisees?

What if what we have been taught is true about Christianity is propaganda and not really history?

Read--Sex, Priests and Secret

Read--Sex, Priests and Secret Codes-The Catholic Church's 2000 Year Paper Trail of Sexual Abuse--by Doyle, Sipe and Wall.
They have known lots longer than from the nineteen eighties that they had a problem.

Professor Kennedy has again

Professor Kennedy has again stated the obvious truth about the sexual scandal that has been going on in the Catholic church for years. It is sad to see the leaders in the Vatican and in the church world wide ignore the fact that they have conspired to protect the sexual predators in an attempt to prevent scandal for the Church. The Cardinals, Bishops, and those in the Vatican who participated in this attempt to coverup the sexual crimes that were being committed also became criminals by their actions. Until the leaders of the Church receive the punishment that they deserve for this scandal, the Church will continue to loose it's moral authority. I pray that the Holy Spirit will be able to bring an awakening to those who participated in this terrible affair that they must face the consequences of their actions.

Only in the minds of child

Only in the minds of child rapists is there a question as to whether raping a child is good or bad. In fact, in a law argument, the inability to know right from wrong is an insanity plea which the Church leaders keep pleading - they didn't know right from wrong until 2002 when they got caught. The Church leaders have taken on the minds of child rapists, not the "mind of Christ." Why does anyone want such immoral people who possess no conscience leading them in prayer services?

Is this the objectionable "relativeness" that Pope Benedict is so concerned about, not found outside of Church authority, but within Church authority, namely the total inability to determine right from wrong? If the rape children being regarding as a capital crime, a mortal sin is not a moral abosolute, then what is a moral absolute?

Yes, the Church Authorities knew in 1985 when Tom Doyle gave the US Bishops and Vatican his report on child pedestry within the priesthood, it's activities, and it's cover-up. But in 1985, priests, and most certainly Bishops and Popes possessed unquestioned power, and they were viewed as innocent ones, not the women and children, and minor males they exploited. The laity was encouraged to diefy their priests, Bishops, Cardinals, and Popes.

What has been difficult for Catholics to grasp is the total lack of empathy for victims and their families ever displayed by any one in authority within the Catholic Church. There is no sincere repentence, deep sorrow, or moral outrage ever displayed. Pedophile priests were kept in the priesthood for decades with excuses as to why they couldn't be removed such as complex cannon law procedures, etc. Yet, the Church authorities acted with such swiftness and certainity when it was married priests who were removed and women priests who were ordained. Days didn't go by before both removed from ministry, ex-communicated, or condemned. We have all witness this inconsistent treatment of married men and women called into ministry, and the decades of cover-up and foot dragging to remove pedophile priests and pedophile Bishops and pedophile Cardinals. Why?

We have all seen the almost absolute silent response from local parish priests and religious orders with few exceptions? Why is that? Where is the moral outrage among them? How does one explain their sympathies lie with the sexually active homosexual priests among them, and sexually active pedophile priests. Why are these same priests rising up and championing married men being ordained and women being ordained, rather than silently witnessing these same priests being swiftly removed from the priesthood, ex-communicated and silenced? Why is this?

In the end, who possesses the real power to overthrow this corrupt regime of hedonistic, narcististic, self-absorbed, deceiving, morally unconscious hierarchy that pretends it represents Christ?

Prosecute to the full extent

Prosecute to the full extent of the law...bring on the handcuffs. Intolerable, worse than the banksters...of with their_____!

There are two million

There are two million Americans in prison; what did any of you do about them? Do you report them when you see them congregating on street corners? Do you call the police when you see them pimping women and selling drugs? Do you turn in your neighbors for cheating on their taxes? Do you blow the whistle on your favorite uncle who likes to have the kids snuggle on his lap every Thanksgiving? If you answered "no" to these questions, congratulations. You're right up there with the bishops and priests and religious and lay ministers and laity-in-general who knew a little something about the pastor, or the choir director, or the P.E. teacher, but didn't want to be the one to say something and possibly ruin their lives. The notion that the clergy are any less-well-adjusted psycho-sexually than the people who go through one relationship after another, including serial marriages, cheat on their spouses, watch hours of porn on their computers, and watch soap operas so they can fantasize about what they would do if they only had the chance -- is patently false. More than fifty percent of marriages now end in divorce. Twenty percent of American children live in homes where neither parent is present. Half of all children are born out of wedlock in many cities. More than a million abortions are performed in this country every year -- and we're going to preach to others about how superior our collective psycho-sexual development is?

Joanne, I was instrumental in

Joanne, I was instrumental in placing one of those two million in prison, and yes he is a pedophile priest. I was once a seminarian with a great love for the Church. The filth I saw while in religious life changed that; it was unbelievable, in scope, and the level to which it reached. My superiors participated in it, and covered for other clerics.

I don't do anything about those matters now. I can't fix the Church, but they certainly do not get any of my money. The hierarchy is best dealt with by disrespecting them whenever possible, and above all stop giving! There are many other worthy organizations that help those in need. I send my money their way, and still take great sanctification for helping to place ONE pedophile priest in prison!

I think the biggest

I think the biggest difference between 9/11 and the clergy scandal is that, at least in narrow terms, 9/11 arose from an arrogantly unimagined external threat while the clergy scandal arose from a known threat from within. The institutional Church's desire to hide, or inability to acknowledge, its shadow side (derived from an ever present shadow of its agents) is, I think, the true source of its 25 years of toxic dithering. In 1989, I read of my local bishop's refusal to meet with child victims of sexual abuse and their family because of the advice of counsel most likely paid for by an insurance company. The internal contradiction of the institutional Church's mission not only to provide pastoral guidance and leadership but also to survive as an institution could not have been more plainly apparent.

Certainly the world wide

Certainly the world wide nature of the cover-up points to a universal policy requirement of all bishops, namely the mandate to cover-up "all scandals" in the false expectation that such cover-ups "protect the church from scandal."
It is obvious that such a universal policy exists, simply from the uniform responses of bishops throughtout the world. The fact that no bishop has admitted this only reflects the controlling dictates of the Vatican.

The pope refuses to speak the whole truth because he has yet to admit that the mandated cover up policy has probably existed for centuries. The fact that the pope has refused to admit that the cover up of all scandals has been a "traditional" policy means that he wants the practice to continue inspite of the fact that it has undermined the authority of the entire hierarchy.
In effect the Vatican response to the crisis has been about the preservation of its power of secrecy.

AMEN!

AMEN!

The abuse of the young has

The abuse of the young has slithered in a wide swath thoughout our Church's history---leaving a noxious vapor in its wake---poisoning all infested by it. We have had so many popes, cardinals, arch/bishops and priests engaging in this practice---that the wonder was that not more people were aware of it sooner.

One pope, Benedict IX (1032-48) shocked even the most hardened cardinals by debauching young boys in the Lateran Place. St. Peter Damian, writing about him, called him "a demon from hell in the disguise of a priest."

Another pope, Boniface VIII,(1294-1303) known as a shameless pedophile, famously declared that having sex with young boys was 'no more a sin than rubbing one hand against the other.' The poet Dante reserved a special place just for him in the eight layer(of nine decending layers of evil), of Hell.

Incurable romantic Julius III (1550-55) fell in love with a handsome young begger boy that he spotted brawling with a vender's monkey in the streets. The pope went on to appoint this illiterate 17-year-old urchin a cardinal. This inspired one disgruntled archbishop to write an epic poem, "In Praise of Sodomy" in the boy's honor.

These were not the only popes who engaged in the sexual abuse of the young, there were many others, And, of course, this was all the past.

But the attitude of too many in the Roman Curia was and still is---that they have such positions of privilege and entitlement, that Jesus Christ himself will miraculously erase all of their sins, without a penalty attached---without anyone knowing it. The higher their position, the greater the degree of hurt to the Body of Christ.

If the recent popes were unable (or unwilling) to realize the great depth and vast width of these crimes----they know now. And the bishops???? Who knows?
But the laity (media, groups demanding justice, lawsuits, letter-writters, etc.) are the medications that the Lord is using to fight this great wound in the Church. And it will take the laity all over the world to continue to press its case for more openess, more of a say in the governance within the church, more respect for their rights---before this disease will be wiped out.

Little Bear~ This is a very

Little Bear~ This is a very powerful post. It reminds us that the evils of clericalism, of unaccountable exclusive privilige in Church is not only a modern issue but systemic. The sexual abuse of minors and children is the most henious and dispicable expression; it is not the only one. I cannot understand why it has not triggered the revolt of the laity and of the vast majority of decent clergy and religious and the necessary change in governance, transparancy, inclusion and accountability.

About 30 years ago, I recall

About 30 years ago, I recall hearing a story — or allegation — that a certain facility for orphans in Marin County, California had been constructed "in order to give Bishop so-and-so's illegitimate children a place to live." Is it true? I have no idea. However, Bishop so-and-so flourished (if one may put it thusly) in the 1930s or 40s.

To make a long story short, this is why my blood boils when people claim that our current sexual abuse crisis is the result of Vatican II.

Definitely not a Black Swan.

Friends-- I am iterpreting

Friends--
I am iterpreting and paraphasing here, but an earlier posting asked what we can do now, we the people in the pews, to force the leadership to admit to the depth of the problem and re-engineer the governance of the Church so as to minimize this from happening again. Funny, six months ago President Mubarek of Egypt looked secure in his job for as long as he chose to hold it. Where is Mubarek now? I predict that a critical mass of disaffected lay people in Europe, living close enough to Vatican City to flood St Peter's Square day and night for as long as it takes, will provide us with the oomph that we need to unseat the present Vatican crowd and put in a new leadership that will address the sex abuse problem boldly and effectively.
It is thoroughly conceivable that once St. Peter's Square fills up over several days with lay people who demand change, their numbers will be augmented by a goodly number of Western Hemisphere, African, and Asian Catholics who have enough money to afford to fly into Rome and join in the protest that topples the tired old regime. And those who cannot afford the air fare will still be able to launch major lasting protests in their home dioceses around the world.
Note that I am not in the least advocating violence or even disrespectful language on the part of the lay protesters. Nothing should take place that would make the Dalai Lama blush! The effectiveness of the protest should rest on its sheer weight, not on the use of any force whatsoever. If enough lay people start thronging St. Peter's Square for days and days, and this fact triggers throngs of Catholics in front of major cathedrals and basilicas around the globe in the same way, the Holy Spirit will prevail. There is no reason today to think otherwise.

I think were well past the

I think were well past the stage of Who,What, When, Where, don't you think.

The problem exists and the answer is, may I have the envelope please.

HOW DO WE GET ACCOUNTABILIY?

No accountability, the problem remains.

Dominic Tomasso
Advocate For Bishops Acountability
tomassotucson@cox.net

When the Church asks, MAY I

When the Church asks, MAY I HAVE THE ENVELOPE PLEASE? The answer is NO; DO NOT GIVE THE CHURCH ANYMORE MONEY. THERE ARE OTHER WORTHY CAUSES! This is the ONLY WAY WE CAN GET ACCOUNTABILITY!

"Once again, Bostonians learn of a predator priest in their midst not from their Cardinal, but thanks only to a concerned victim and a journalist.

In 2002, Fr. Francis McManus was accused of molesting a boy at Boston College High School in the 1980s. One of his victims was paid $600,000.

Yet he lives now among unsuspecting neighbors lives at a church facility in Weston, the MetroWest Daily News disclosed this weekend.

Neither his Jesuit supervisors nor Cardinal O’Malley told or warned anyone about McManus" (SNAP.)

"Parishioners at one Framingham, Massachusetts church had a special guest at mass.

Archbishop Sean O'Malley presided over Sunday service. The Cardinal is hitting the road, asking churchgoers to dig deep for this year's annual Catholic appeal" (NECN: Eileen Curran, Sunday 3/6/2011.)

O’Malley, No accountability, NO MORE MONEY, that applies to the RCC worldwide!

Yes we need accountability,

Yes we need accountability, but we need to know the fundamental causes, and Kennedy is no help here.

Kenndy's article is pure balderdash. His 1972 report specifically discounts the possibility of abuse. Indeed, on page 14 of his report he states:

"THERE IS LITTLE INDICATION THAT AMERICAN PRIESTS WOULD EXERCISE FREEDOM IN ANY IMPULSIVE OR DESTRUCTIVE WAY."

According the John Jay study that described the ebb and flow of the abuse from 1950 to 2000, Kennedy penned these words near high tide of the abuse.

Unformed, ill-formed and

Unformed, ill-formed and mal-formed priests, bishops and Cardinals. Likely, even a pope or two or three or more. And the beat goes on and on and on!!

Sometimes I feel like I am being persecuted, like Christ on the cross, as I read of ever more of these pedophiles and the Vatican/hierarchs endless covers-up.

I feel sorry for those priests and nuns who are not a part of this debacle of satanic evil and the resultant covers-up. I cringe at the thought of the sense of internal shame they must/may feel and carry around with them on a daily basis. For they too, are Christ on the cross!!! They too, are being persecuted and punished by the Vatican and the prelates, even as was Christ.

Just as ours, their senses and their sensitivities are being assaulted on an almost daily basis. Truly, the body of Christ suffers.

Upon hearing of St.Malachy's 'Prophecies of Popes' I thought, never could such a thing happen. Now...

When the Vatican's chief exorcist reported an evil entity was in the Vatican, I thought how apropos. It was actually invited in via the Vatican's actions. Give the "thing" a door or opening and it is in. Such, seems to be the nature of evil. The resultant covers-up gave the beast a welcome home, again and again and again, ad nauseam.

Truly, our senses and our sensitivities are repeatedly assaulted. Yet, we do not fail, we keep resisting, we continue to fight against the evil. We raise our voices, again and again.

I often ask myself: could it be that Christ will come again, when HIS church FINALLY learns to follow HIS teachings!!

Oh well, tomorrow is another day; or so it is said. Hope springs eternal or so it is said. At least, for now. Some have left the church. Who can blame them. I, most certainly do not. Just maybe, they have done the correct and most powerful thing. They have stood squarely, by walking away from these horrible behaviors of the Vatican corporate/institutional church.

Some others continue to be apologists, for sad/pathetic surely evil behaviors?? Why? Their kind of think is the very same as caused these evil actions.

just thinking... and wondering... and wandering...torn this way and that...again and again, daily!!

Maybe, this is some of my punishment and I'll spend less time in the waiting place with those other souls who are waiting and whom we are reminded to pray for. Are we not in a kind of purgatory, right here on earth, right now?

As my own death approaches(terminal illness) in two or three years, I keeeep remind myself that God/Christ/The Holy Spirit is not the problem. Man and his earthly religious ways are the problem. So, somewhat tenuously, I hang on. But It can't come soon enough. Sooner would be better. Like Blessed Mother Theresa I sometimes wonder, maybe even doubt. Oh me, of little faith. But then, I remember the historical Jesus, that memory supports and reminds me of my belief in the biblical Jesus. And it all comes back. My faith, that is.

A friend of mine who has a Ph.D. in Theology among other things, and knows a lot about religion, and is a Protestant pastor, said that the "conservatives" have the church in their grip. He asked me to hang on to my faith. In effect, he said: this cup too, shall pass!

In all of this, there really is some good. Anyway, that's what I keep telling myself. The good is that, by our anguish and suffering over and at the Vatican, we are reminded of Christs Persecution and suffering!!

Another good is that here on NCR ONLINE we really have formed another Spiritual community, a community of the faithful. EVEN, despite the hate that shows up from some few others, on occasion. Though it is long past time to point fingers and name names, we all know whom they are. They, who would seek to suppress us and even persecute us, if they could. Christ loved, we are told God loves, yet they do not! Oh well...

I am absolutely sure there are and will be other "goods" that will come. A great good would be that through our prayers and pressures and by the stopping of our financial supports we speak loudly and demandingly for action, but only EFFECTIVE action. Perhaps then the church, actually the Vatican church will get to a better place. One that is much more in keeping with the laws of God(Ten Commandments) and the teachings of Christ(peace, love, tolerance and "Do unto others...).

Finally, I believe that our faith will be tested even further than it has been, when Jeb Bush or some other Republican gets elected prez in 2012 or 2016. Then the axe of hate and endless greed will attempt to do ever more chopping, of the budget(welfare queens)and more heads(Iran and maybe even ours) will roll. Iow, sad as it is to say, I think it will get even worse.

Satan waved homosexuality and abortion, insecurities and terrorism(guns) and greed/lust(money and political power) in their faces(temptation) and they succumbed, they sank to their lowest/basest levels. In the name of country and God(Right Wing Catholics) Jesus Christ(Right Wing Protestants) and the Holy Spirit( Right Wing Pentecostals like Palin) gave vent to their hates and furies and they engaged in war/death/kill, both in Iraq and Afghanistan, AND in America!!

Humblest apologies for the length of this tome. Blessings to all. And a wish: may we come out on the other side of this cabal of evil and horrors much wiser and more understanding and more Christ-like.

bob

bobtr900 (not verified) on

bobtr900 (not verified) on Mar. 09, 2011.

You stated:

"...
As my own death approaches(terminal illness) in two or three years, I keeeep remind myself that God/Christ/The Holy Spirit is not the problem. Man and his earthly religious ways are the problem. So, somewhat tenuously, I hang on. But It can't come soon enough. Sooner would be better. Like Blessed Mother Theresa I sometimes wonder, maybe even doubt. Oh me, of little faith. But then, I remember the historical Jesus, that memory supports and reminds me of my belief in the biblical Jesus. And it all comes back. My faith, that is...."
------------------------------------------------

Know that you are in my prayers as you face your terminal illness. May Bl. Teresa of Calcutta----who knew what real 'darkness of the soul' was about intercede for you. Although you cannot feel it---God is very close to you---ready to hold you when you are ready. Be at peace!

Whatever the reasons for the

Whatever the reasons for the problem, the procedurally glacial process, and the beliefs of the abusers or their bosses may have been about what had been happening,
TODAY any priest accused of this sort of thing should be reported to law enforcement promptly, and be removed from his immediate duties with whatever story about that is appropriate, and given no duties of any kind remotely involving children.
TODAY the Church should assist and encourage the alleged victim to cooperate with the police with or without the emotional support of a friend or Church person
TODAY the report of the police or prosecutor that a so-called prima facie case exists, should trigger the immediate suspension of the priest from all church duties, he to report to a monastery, stay and pray, except for proceedings (unless in jail, of course).
TODAY The Bishop may or may not choose to say that the action is precautionary and the verdict will be awaited.
TODAY Upon conviction, and if the defendant priest is not in jail or is released from jail, the priest should return to a monastery and remain the rest of his life, but if he fails to do so at any time, he should be laicized and every Diocese in the country informed of the matter with full and useful identification material. (Because it's better to have him really supervised than to be running around in public.)

The Fransican Order back in

The Fransican Order back in 1972, refused fr ...... a missionary for many years in Papua New Guinea, laiciazation to marry a religious. He was returned to Australia under the pretext of "spiritual reflection" with the intention to separate them. The outcome of that was a nervous breakdown for him, admitted to a psychiatric hospital run by the St John of God sisters where electroconvulsive therapy was common practice.
That certainly opened the flood gates of other issues for him, much to the consternation of his mother who had fostered his vocation, entering junior seminary at the age of thirteen.
He was dogged for many years with accusations of misconduct and forever under supervision.
Instead of acknowledging his need for a life apart from the religious and releasing him from his vows with dignity, he left a trail of women trying to fulfill this need, including religious with "special friendships" and more than one "top nun", which was very sad, each one believing it was them.
When in later life he asked for release, this time as a Rescript of Legitimation acording to Canon 1139, to claim the child he had brought into the world, acknowledged and as maturity set in, overwhelmed at his protege, it was refused on the basis of preventing scandal and inheritance rights, even though in the second trimester of pregnancy, a proposal of "living together as brother and sister" had been made, acceptable at Canon Law but not acceptable to the mother who had converted to the Catholic Faith some years previously.
Irrespective of the support of this latter day Minister Provincial, his successor had, as in earlier days, refused to continue the on going process as his predeccessor, and the father went to his grave never recanting his request but with the confidence it was going to be granted.
It has now become in recent correspondence from the present Provincial, a case of misconduct and nothing to do with a father's rights to his child which was illegally presented as a release of liability through an agreement for financial support.
So there are many aspects to being "sent off to monastery's" to be used at whim by the church, whether religious superiors of their own or utilized by the hierarchy.

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