This is no way to end religious illiteracy

Mayor "Diamond" Joe Quimby, from the TV series "The Simpsons," once found himself listening to talk radio while a Rush Limbaugh wannabe derided him as an "illiterate, tax-cheating, wife-swapping, pot-smoking spendocrat." Quimby's wounded response was, "Hey ... I am no longer illiterate!"

I sometimes flash on that scene while listening to people complain about media coverage of religion, and of the Catholic church -- that it's biased, sensationalistic, sloppy, or whatever. I wish I could reply, "Hey ... at least we're no longer illiterate." By that I mean "illiterate" about religion, lacking a grasp of the A, B C's of belief and practice.

Three items this week, however, suggest we've got some ground to cover if we want to catch up with Quimby.

'Head of the Church'

First was a correction in the New York Times to a story about reports that Cardinal Godfried Danneels of Belgium tried to cover up charges of sexual abuse against another Belgian bishop. The item had referred to Danneels as a "former cardinal," which obviously isn't correct, and the Times set the record straight.

Yet in doing so the Times actually perpetuated another error, by identifying Danneels as "the former head of the Roman Catholic Church in Belgium." (In fairness, virtually every story about Danneels in the last couple of weeks has used some variant of that formula.)

Here's the problem: There is no such thing as the "head of the Roman Catholic Church in Belgium," or any other country. Epic battles fought by the Vatican in the 18th and 19th centuries against Gallicanism, Febronianism, etc., were based on the principle that there is no "national church" with its own president or patriarch. There's the pope in Rome, and then there are dioceses around the world led by their bishops, with no real layer of authority in between.

True, the Archbishop of Brussels is the metropolitan of the whole country and holds a few carefully circumscribed powers over the other "suffragan" dioceses. Basically, however, each bishop calls his own shots; there's no "head of the Belgian church" to whom they report.

Some observers believe this reality is part of the problem when it comes to the sexual abuse crisis. There are more than 5,000 bishops in the world, and their only supervisor is the pope – who can't, and probably shouldn't, be expected to ride herd on specific personnel moves and so on. Critics say that until there's a way to hold bishops accountable short of direct papal intervention, an important cause of the crisis will remain untreated.

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Calling Danneels the "former head of the church in Belgium" thus perpetuates a misconception about how the church works -- one with consequences for diagnosing what went wrong in the sexual abuse crisis, and what may be needed to fix it.

'Senior Vatican Official'

On Tuesday a piece in the U.K.-based Telegraph carried the following headline: "Muslims will become majority in Europe, senior Vatican official warns." An alarmist subhead added: "European Christians must have more children or face the prospect of the continent becoming Islamized, a senior Vatican official has said."

Seeing that header, I wondered if the Cardinal Secretary of State, Tarcisio Bertone, had delivered a speech somewhere I didn't know about, or if the President of the Pontifical Council for Inter-religious Dialogue, French Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran, maybe had given an interview to Le Monde that was making the rounds.

In any event, I held my breath, because pugnacious statements from the Vatican about Islam have a history of kicking up dust.

Then I drilled down into the article, and discovered that the "senior Vatican official" is an 81-year-old Italian priest named Fr. Pierro Gheddo, who in reality holds no Vatican position whatsoever. (In the index to the Annuario, where the names of Vatican personnel appear, he's not there.) Gheddo is a member of the Pontifical Institute of Foreign Missions, a religious order founded to support the overseas missions of the Milan archdiocese, but that no more makes him a Vatican official than being a Jesuit or Dominican makes one pope.

Gheddo is a veteran missionary and a prolific author and speaker. For the record, he serves as postulator for three sainthood causes, but that doesn't make him a "Vatican official" either, and certainly not a "senior" one.

In other words, this is a bit like the Washington Post taking a comment from a retired analyst from the Brookings Institute, who has no job at the White House and who couldn't even get into the building without permission, and trying to pass it off as coming from a "senior administration official."

It's hard to tell whether this was an honest mistake, or a deliberate act of "sexing up" a story. In any event, it was dangerous -- whenever you stoke the clash of civilizations, you're playing with fire.

'God, not Jobs'

Last week the Vatican released a message from Pope Benedict XVI for World Youth Day, set for Madrid in August 2011. It was a Biblically-inspired reflection on how young people need something they can count on, drawing on imagery of roots and branches.

Benedict also offered a rare biographical aside:

"In thinking of my own youth, I realize that stability and security are not the questions that most occupy the minds of young people. True enough, it is important to have a job and thus to have firm ground beneath our feet, yet the years of our youth are also a time when we are seeking to get the most out of life. When I think back on that time, I remember above all that we were not willing to settle for a conventional middle-class life."

The pope went on to suggest that the natural desire of young people for "something great, something new" can only be satisfied in God. Whatever one makes of that, the fact the pope said it was hardly news, so most media outlets took a pass.

In Italy, however, where ignoring the pope just isn't an option, reporters instead went a little meshuggeneh, straining to connect Benedict's reference to "stability and security" to a heated national debate over jobs policy. In effect, they implied, the pope was endorsing outsourcing and downsizing, a shift to part-time jobs without benefits, and other forms of economic insecurity. One header actually had the pope saying: "A job doesn't bring happiness, it's better to believe in God."

That might seem laughable in light of Benedict's encyclical Caritas in Veritate, where he called on leaders to "prioritize the goal of access to steady employment for everyone" and described being out of work as a source of "great psychological and spiritual suffering." Even in Italy, however, few people actually sit down and chew over 30,000-word papal texts.

As a result, Vatican officials were constrained to call up reporters for background bitch sessions, and L'Avvenire, the newspaper of the Italian bishops, published a rap on the knuckles. Editor Marco Tarquinio acidly wrote that if the media used to be dominated by what novelist Vance Packard described as "hidden persuaders," today we have a pack of "obvious dissuaders" – pundits who "know how to write better than anyone else, but who seem to have a problem with reading."

Such blatant distortions make it borderline understandable when some Vatican officials reply to calls for a better media strategy by saying, "Why bother? They're just going to make it up anyway."

* * *

What's the take-away on all this?

In themselves, these episodes are hardly earth-shattering. The Danneels thing is a common misconception, the "senior Vatican official" hype in the Telegraph doesn't seem to have had much bite, and nobody outside Italy picked up the silly exegesis of the pope. One might be tempted to say, "No harm, no foul."

Yet it's precisely the "business as usual" feel that's troubling. What these instances illustrate is that a degree of sloppiness and imprecision is routine when it comes to religion that wouldn't fly elsewhere. (Imagine an item about Rod Blagojevich describing him as "the former emperor of Illinois," and you'll see what I mean.)

If religious illiteracy is to be stamped out, we'll have to do better. May the spirit of Joe Quimby be with us!

[John L. Allen Jr. is NCR senior correspondent. His e-mail address is jallen@ncronline.org.]

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All true but it would help if

All true but it would help if the Church would update arcane medieval titles and designations such as "archbishop" and "Pontifical Institute." No wonder people think they have more authority than they do.

I have had many dealings with

I have had many dealings with the "press" - the only totally fair, honest and correct experience was with journalism school reporters at the U of Illinois.

I'm sorry you had only one

I'm sorry you had only one satisfactory experience with the press. Many small municipality reporters do their jobs well with regard to listening, research and honesty. You make a good point in general though. Reporters reflect society in general. We call for sensation; for slant; for immediacy. Truth, balance, background are no longer primary in news. Witness the growing demise of print media outletsin favor of online, Face-book and other social networking "news" networks. How can "the press" continue as the "third estate?"

Even before our present situation some editor slipped and allowed the following comment by an overseas reporter to come across: "I'd go crazy if what passes as news in the USA is all I had to understand things." And then there's the regs by which reporters/editors live: "If it bleeds, it leads." We demand sensationalism. That's what we're getting more and more of. Truth and balance are no longer important. This doesn't only mean reporting of religious matters.

Or "bishop elect"! Ain't

Or "bishop elect"!

Ain't that one a hoot!

Check out the Latin origin of

Check out the Latin origin of 'to elect.' It means 'to choose." The pope has chosen the 'bishop elect," my friend.

Precisely. As in the pope has

Precisely.

As in the pope has chosen Cardinal Archbishop Law.

Ya - - right. Our bishop was

Ya - - right. Our bishop was chosen when John Paul II was on his death bed and supposedly in a coma. So who really chose him? Vatican politics make most politics in the U.S. and elsewhere look positively refreshing.

Aye, maybe the "Warm and

Aye, maybe the "Warm and Fuzzy Congregation on Whatever Happens to be Popular," or perhaps the "Feel-Good Council for Not Evangelizing because That Might Offend People."

Then again, perhaps they could just stick with the names that mean exactly what they say and give a sense of the authority that the Church claims to have, whether or not you believe it has it. Hard choice between that and the "Congregation for Shake Your Booty Music and Perhaps Some Preaching, if That's OK with Everybody."

Huh? Tell us what you are

Huh? Tell us what you are attempting to say.

and, most importantly, where

and, most importantly, where to find that congregation!

I agree, Tom, and it would

I agree, Tom, and it would also help if "the Church" (big C)and RC reporters would call things by their true names. I refer to the sex-abuse-coverup-crisis. We keep reading, hearing instead about the sex-abuse-crisis. We also read, hear about an Apostolic Visitation of U.S. religious institutes of women rather than a Vatican investigation of them. Most recently the Pope called for "conversion" rather than "structural change" in the RC Church and invoked a "saintly nun" who had in recent years been dissed because "new agers" quoted her. For more than a few years "Catholic identity" has been called for. Reiki has been likened to witchcraft; yoga is frowned on because it smacks of "syncretism" and worse. I can go on and and on and on. What's called the mainstream press isn't the only one needing literacy lessons.

MR. GODARD, YOU are right in

MR. GODARD, YOU are right in both aspects of your response. However, I wonder, too, how many archbishops think they are equal to bishops, how many cardinals think they are equal to archbishops, and how many primates think they are equal to all the other cardinals. Just look at how they are seated at any church liturgy and you get a clear picture of their view of ranking, and the hierachy's view in practice. They don't call it a "hierachy" for no reason. John has overlooked that contributing factor in press confusion.

The "Peter Principle" first

The "Peter Principle" first formulated around 1967, teaches that in any Hierarchy, each individual rises to the level of his/her incompetence's," (even though in the Church their are few "she's to exhibit any level of incompetence). After one shows himself to be incompetent in any position, they are basically not promotable. I wonder if Dr, Hull had the catholic church in mind when he came up with his principle? If we have learned anything over the last 12 years, it's how incompetent members of our Magisterium/Heirarchy really are! All the way up to the Chair of St. Peter, uncaring, incompetent and often UnChristian men have led the Church into this state of chaos in which we find ourselves. When will the Laity get brave and overhaul the entire system? Jesus taught that His kingdom was not of this world. It is to be found within the heart of every individual, and yet we allow incompetent men lead us into the Kingdom of God. What sense does that make?

"All true but it would help

"All true but it would help if the Church would update arcane medieval titles and designations such as "archbishop" and "Pontifical Institute." No wonder people think they have more authority than they do".

Europe, and Italy in particular, has a long tradition of granting inflated titles, honors, costumes, and other insignia. All designed to magnify the honoree with an importance to which he or she may or may not be entitled. Strip it all away and usually you're dealing with petite fonctionnaires.

If vestments inflate your ego and enlarge your sense of self-worth, then maybe they've become a source of scandal. It may also be time to get rid of these archaic symbols, and start to concentrate on what you do and how well you do it, rather than where you fit in the pecking order of life.

Sometimes I wonder if the

Sometimes I wonder if the bishops see themselves primarily as priests or as manager/businessmen; if their spiritual development is neglected because of the demands of their jobs; if, as they go along and possibly go up in the ranks, they just simply lose sight of what they were about when they first became priests.

It is sad they need the perks of rank to feel good about themselves. I'm guessing peer pressure has a lot to do with this.

What if we had more saintly bishops and fewer careerists - however that would not go over with Rome, I'm afraid. Often I wonder if the most blessed priests aren't those who didn't "qualify" to "get promoted" to wealthier parishes or bigger dioceses.

well said. Does that include

well said.
Does that include the KoC also?

Religion reporting in the

Religion reporting in the mainstream press, IMHO, has improved in the past 5 or 10 years, though it has a long way to go. NPR has a reporter named Haggerty who clearly grew up Catholic, so we no longer her about someone "giving a Mass". But she also is well informed on other churches, seems to do her homework.
I am not aware of any reporter on the American scene who can accurately and cogently report on Islam or any of the Asian religions. It would be a great help to our populace if there were.

When I was editor of The

When I was editor of The Catholic Herald in Colorado Springs about 25 years ago the local daily newspaper, The Gazette Telegraph, published an article covering a city-wide event celebrating Pentecost. The event marking the birth of the church was marketed as a celebration of the Holy Spirit for all Christians. The headline in the newspaper said "Catholics Celebrate Birth of the Holy Spirit." Painful and funny at the same time we used the opportunity to write in our paper about the theology of the Trinity and the significance of Pentecost, but I still wonder how many people think Catholics believe the Holy Spirit was not only born on Pentecost, but was born in the first place.

so, like, who was there at

so, like, who was there at the Baptism in the Jordan?
or at the Annunciation, aside from the angel of course . . .

if I could only remember . . .

Angelus Domini annunciavit Mariae. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.

That's "annuntiavit" not

That's "annuntiavit" not "annunciavit." If you're going to be pretentious, be correct, or readers will suspect you don't know what you're talking about.

A truly Christian comment

A truly Christian comment given in all charity.

dude. anonymous, dude.

dude.
anonymous, dude.

forgive my presumption, but please read the final lines at

http://www.medievalist.net/hourstxt/bvm2matd.htm

of course some places might go with a mere

nuntiavit

but why quibble, when we might pray?

for peace . . .

If John Allen wants the world

If John Allen wants the world and the press to have a better understanding of the ways of the Catholic Church, all I can say is: good luck. The byzantine nature of the institutional Catholic Church is so complex and confusing that even cradle Catholics are flummoxed by it. Expecting non-Catholics and non-Christians to understand it is like asking the average American to explain the difference between Sunni, Shia and Sufi Islam. It ain't goona happen.

The last time I was at the Vatican, I was in St. Peters. A Mass had started in a chapel with twenty clerics in mitres behind the altar. I heard a confused American voice behind me ask in disbelief, "Are all of those priests bishops?" I assumed it was a hapless American lay person with a tour group. Instead, I turned around to find a half dozen middle-aged American priests.

sounds like everyone just

sounds like everyone just needs a good read of the Reverend Father Richard P. McBrien's standard text Catholicism . . .

and of the HarperCollins Encyclopedia, too.

always a joy, a comfort, and a certain guide through these dark and flummoxing waters.

One could read those books,

One could read those books, but only if one wants a skewed vision of the Church. After all, the USCCB and the NCCB before it declared that Catholicism could not be used to teach theology in Catholic institutions.

Perhaps a joy and comfort, but a "certain guide"? Not according to the US Conference of Catholic Bishops.

The ravenous CDF in its

The ravenous CDF in its darkest rapacious days remained silent upon this point, despite hollowed howls from those such as youself, and so we real Roman Catholics afflicted by this English in America may gratefully take the Reverend Father Richard P. McBrien's Catholicism as a comprehensible, certain and grace-filled guide, our guardian angel in these times of toil.

In any case, Mr. Green, you seriously exaggerate to the point of the sin of calumny both the USCCB AND the NCCB on these points.

How's the family?

It's possible they were all

It's possible they were all bishops. It's also possible that some were abbots. ...

it is also slightly possible

it is also slightly possible one might with toil and trouble find among them a Confessor of the Faith.

It takes time and energy to

It takes time and energy to seek out the truth in any media announcement. Most of my acquaintences do not take the time, but my immediate family members have become more adept at finding the flaws and seeking the truth due to NCR. Thank you. This article is another example of the need to look further than the headlines.

The term meshuggeneh is a

The term meshuggeneh is a noun -- i.e. "a person who is a bit nuts." You likely intended "meshuggeh" as in "...reporters went a little goofy...."

I have to side with John

I have to side with John Allen on this one. When words are taken into English from other languages there usage often, if not almost always changes.
Below for an English dictionary; a Yiddish one would no doubt disagree.

Noun 1. meshuggeneh - (Yiddish) a crazy fool
meshuggener
fool, muggins, saphead, tomfool, sap - a person who lacks good judgment

Adj. 1. meshuggeneh - senseless; crazy
meshuga, meshugga, meshugge, meshuggener
impractical - not practical; not workable or not given to practical matters; "refloating the ship proved impractical because of the expense"; "he is intelligent but too impractical for commercial work"; "an impractical solution"

The problem with religious

The problem with religious news reporting is only going to get worse as newspapers, and perhaps news organizations in general, cut back on reporters devoted exclusively to religious news. It would help if someone could prepare a handbook of terms and phrases for news organizations which would provide models of expression for those reporters who have to pick up the slack on this reporting. That would be a practical and common-sense suggestion, however, and the Vatican has rarely given evidence of taking such a hint!

John Allen is correct as far

John Allen is correct as far as pointing out the error in the New York Times by referring to Cardinal Danneels as the former "head of the Roman Catholic Church in Belgium."

But then Allen in turn goofs with the phrase "the Archbishop of Brussels." If Allen can be picky so can his readers. We need to remind John that there is no such thing the "Archbishop of Brussels." The proper title for this position is Archbishop of Mechelen-Brussels. Picky begets picky.

Richard

Richard, it is always best

Richard, it is always best and, often, necessary to have the correct information, I agree. Yet, as I see it, the two mistakes are not equal. The correction that Cardinal Danneels is not the "head of the Roman Catholic Church in Belgium" is a correction of the extent and power of his authority. The other correction, seems to me, to be a correction of a leaders proper title; not one that affects the readers understanding of the extent of his authority. None-the-less, thank you for your keen eye in picking up this mistake.

No serious Catholic, be s/he

No serious Catholic, be s/he moderate, liberal, conservative, etc. is dependant on the secular "news" media for accurate information about the going ons of the Catholic Church. Insofar as non-Catholics and barely there Catholics are concerned, the smart ones aren't going to take media coverage of the Church at face value, or just brainlessly assume that "If it's in the paper, it must be true!"

Frankly, intelligent people know better than to take mainstream news' coverage of ANYTHING at face value.

You are factually accurate

You are factually accurate but I wonder how many 'intelligent people' are out there and how they are subtly influenced by accidental mis-information and that doesn't even consider skilled dis-information.

How many 'informed people' can say with certitude if the 'prayer room' in the to be built (maybe) Islamic 'YMCA' [near, but not too near or maybe it is too near 'Sacred' (or not) Ground Zero] is a Mosque or not?

It is; but, - depending on which source you use to define 'mosque.' Wiki short version and listed #3 in Google:

"A place of worship for Muslims, corresponding to a church or synagogue in other religions, and having at least one minaret; a masjid ..."

P.S. How many 'serious Catholics' do you know? I live in NE Indiana and ....

Fisher like Diogenes asks

Fisher like Diogenes asks from Indiana:
"How many 'serious Catholics' do you know?"

Well.
The Reverend Father John Dear SJ, for one . . .

All the folks around me in the Cathedral of Ciudad Juarez for another . . .

It may be surprising, but I

It may be surprising, but I know plenty of Catholics who are not willing to give the secular media the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their church. Why? Because they care about the church to which they belong. That is how I would define a "serious Catholic." S/he is Catholic who cares about the Church, about THEIR church. These wo/men may or may not have disagreements, even serious ones, with the hierarchy, but they still find their participation in the Church meaningful. Naturally, they are not willing to lazily assume the worst every single time about that which is meaningful to them, though the secular media demands it.

While, in general, critical readers/viewers are still not the majority of the audience for mainstream news, the number is growing. It is growing slowly perhaps, but it is growing nonetheless. The growth of online media has forced the issue.

I wonder if those of you who

I wonder if those of you who think the Church is medieval and Byzatine also criticize the medieval and Byzatine aspects of your private and state university systems? or are those sacrosanct? They don't seem under the gone and professional reporters seem to know how to differentiate a regent from a Dean from a Department chair from an Adjunct.

I don't really see the

I don't really see the comparison. The academic system is typically quite clear in its hierarchical structure. Adjunct/staff/faculty serve under their respective department chair, who is below the dean, who is below the provost/president/chancellor. The English department does the English stuff. The admissions program admits people. I'm not sure what's so medieval about it all, except maybe the filing of paperwork (but that is much more an example of modern bureaucracy, another problem that the Vatican has).

The modern university structure looks much more like a typical corporate administrative structure than it looks like the Vatican, whose workers and congregation heads by their own admission were not even sure until 2005 where sexual abuse cases were supposed to be filed within the Vatican itself. Most universities have this great thing called a "handbook" that explains just how the system works. I'd love to see the Vatican issue one in a simplified form to offer at every parish. I think many people would be surprised--probably even the Holy Father himself when he saw what powers actually reside in the office of the papacy (particularly in the limits in infallibility, which are quite clear despite a lot of magisterial attempts to muddy those waters lately).

Good points all, John. One

Good points all, John. One that jumped out at me was that the Pope has (5,000+) world bishops as "direct reports." I thought that the bishops reported to the cardinals. No? Anyway, as a retired businessman I know that no one can manage, supervise, or control 5,000 direct reports.

Brother Ed Your thinking that

Brother Ed
Your thinking that "bishops report to cardinals" is a common misconception among many catholics. Cardinals, archbishops, and bishops are all bishops who only have jurisdiction in their respective dioceses. The distinction between a bishop and an archbishop is that the latter has a much larger diocese and has been given greater responsibility for more souls. Usually an archbishop has received his appointment to a larger city after having served as a bishop in a smaller city. As such it is viewed as a promotion that Rome has favored and as such an archbishop has greater prestige. As far as a cardinal is concerned they are distinguished from bishops and archbishops because they get to vote in the election of a new pope. A cardinal can be viewed as a big archbishop not only because he can vote for a pope, but also because his diocese is always one of the largest metropolitan cities in a nation. For example the official title of the head of the diocese of Los Angeles or New York or Chicago is Cardinal Archbishop as in Cardinal Archbishop Mahoney. Usually the full title is not used. I include it to again reinforce that bishops, archbishops and cardials are all separate bishops. Needless to say a bishop who is chosen to be a cardinal has more prestige and influence with Rome. This does not change the fact that each bishop reports directly to Rome and NOT through an intermediary.

But aren't those extremely

But aren't those extremely well-paid attornies (Thank you, Sheeple.) for that diocese in Oregon saying that bishops are not employees of the Vatican? Wouldn't be trying to have it both ways, would they? Well, it has worked for a lot of centuries, so why stop now.

This seems a bit of a

This seems a bit of a hair-splitting exercise that does more (once again) to help the bishops affirm that the problem is their critics, rather than face the problems within the hierarchy and the Church itself.

We all know, for instance that while no bishop may formally have authority over another, it nonetheless is true that Cardinal George is going to get his way in a debate with Bishop Trautman (see the American bishops' resistance to Trautman's discussion of whether the Vatican possesses the right to take over editing a vernacular liturgy). There are de facto leaders among the bishops (ARCHbishops, for instance?) who exercise both very real and at times very strong power to shape the work and actions of their fellow bishops.

Similarly, I'm not sure I see where the Pope was misrepresented in your analysis of the "God not Jobs" controversy. The hierarchy at times does talk a great talk about the dignity of work and of the worker, but historically, bishops have been quick to limit workers' rights, and we all know that pay for Catholic laity working for the Church (or for teaching at Catholic schools) is frequently a travesty. If the direction of our spending indicates our priorities (as my local priest says every time "stewardship season" rolls around), then the hierarchy practices a pretty strong "God not jobs" line. It strikes me that the evidence offered above merely shows that some politicians know that the Church's words often have a much different subtext.

So all that's left then is either a single error or a single intentional inflation of a comment from a "senior Vatican [non]official." I know there are others, but we're only discussing these supposed "whoppers." In terms of trying to grasp something as big and sprawling as the Catholic Church, I'd say that is a pretty good track record. If our bishops and our Pope represented differing viewpoints with equal accuracy, we probably would have a much healthier Church these days.

John, I had problems with

John, I had problems with your headline. Like the recent one about the "Revolution" at Trent, this one is a good hook. Where this one it falters though I think is that the article never proved the premise. "There is no way" is a universal statement but any well-reported piece of religious news would shatter your declaration. In addition it doesn't seem you really believe the statement because you summarized your article by asserting that what you declared not possible can occur...if... I read this as a case of internal disconnect. Interesting though....

Incidentally, although former Governor Blagovich hasn't yet literally been labeled a former emperor, columnists and media pundits (especially in his own hometown) did assign many vivid and varied metaphorical titles. Perhaps during the second trial in 2111 someone will make you eat crow with this example. In Chicago one never knows.

Joan, if you are going to

Joan, if you are going to quote the author to disprove him, it would be better to quote what he actually said. The headline reads "This is no way..." NOT "There is no way..." The author was putting forth these three incidents as not being ways to reduce religious illiteracy; he did not say there is no way that it can be done in fact as you noted: "you summarized your article by asserting that what you declared not possible can occur...if...I read this as a case of internal disconnect. Interesting though...." I think the disconnect has more to do with your reading ability than with the author's lack of congruity. Interesting that you would argue a point he did not proffer.
As for former Governor Blagovich (sic), "columnists and media pundits" are not news reporters, they are commentators and pundits. If the AP ran a news article referring to him as the former Emperor of Illinois in a serious news piece, the reporter and his/her editor would be raked over the coals and likely be looking for new jobs. The articles that Mr. Allen was referring to were supposed to be NEWS articles, not commentaries or satire.

NOSA48, you made one good

NOSA48, you made one good catch and one error. I appreciate the good catch and thank you for it - the misread of John's headline. I myself caught it just this a.m. by accident and opened this queue with the intention of making a correction. You did it for me.

I submit though that I didn't misread the item about former Governor Blagovich although evidently I approached it from a different viewpoint than you. John Allen began by saying "Imagine....." and I did. Your point about serious news is on the mark but journalists are journalists, whether they be editors, reporters, commentators or satirists. We Illinoisans (especially Chicagoans)are especially sensitive over corrupt politicians due to so many recent convictions/imprisonments. The coals over which professional journalists have been raked are growing cold in this regard, especially in the case of FGB. Those you term serious news reporters have inserted quotes from well-known commentators, etc. rather than do the labeling themselves; that's how the raking-over-coals grow cold IN THIS CASE.

It is also often forgotten

It is also often forgotten that certain older sees, especially in Europe, did and do continue to have the title of "Primate" attached to it. In our own time this is primarily ceremonial and no longer carries with it the same kind of jurisdictional power that it did in former times. Nevertheless, when a (arch)bishop also has the title of "primate" it is not incorrect to describe him as the "head of the church in _____". In fact, even when it is only ceremonial that is precisely what it does mean. The Primate is the visible head of the bishops of a certain country or region. The Metropolitan Archbishop of Mechelen-Brussels is also the Primate of Belgium.

Similarly several of us yet

Similarly several of us yet recall Archbishop Weakland's much earlier election to a few terms as Abbot Primate, beginning in 1967 under Pope Paul VI and continuing for some ten years.

That bishops reach Rome

That bishops reach Rome without an intervening "national" layer is clear in the geography of Irish dioceses. Each diocese has direct access to the ocean. Any bishop in Ireland can, therefore, sail to meet the bishop of Rome in Rome without having to transit the turf(or surf)of another - Irish or otherwise!

I generally find John L

I generally find John L Allen's columns insightful, even when I don't always with him on a particular topic. This one seems to far below his usual quality. He is, in effect, saying that it's a shame that all journalists don't have the deep expertise that he brings to writing about the church. Besides calling attention to his own knowledge and competence in these matters, the column fails to offer anything of significant interest.

I for one found it, as always

I for one found it, as always with the knowledgable and competent Mr. Allen, significantly interesting.

Consider it synecdoche.

So this column is essentially

So this column is essentially about John Allen, I guess. Had I known that, I wouldn't have spent the time reading it and the comments which thus far have next to nothing to say about the damaged children or the deviant priests and way too much to say about John Allen and various obscure semantic points. Maybe the damaged children could get more attention from Catholics if they were called "calamitosus liberi".

I have found these years this

I have found these years this column brilliantly and transparently and humorously reporting the state of our Hierarchy, in the states and in Rome. The ego of Mr. Allen rarely if ever interferes, as we may find distinctly in another regular series here.

I regret this column does not focus exclusively upon your concerns so eloquently and sincerely expressed here, as Mr. Allen here to reflects on the state of the Church and the popular press with concrete examples. You do find this trivial in light of your pressing concern. Perhaps it is a phenomenon required to maintain access to the highest echelon of our hierarchy, an objective and even at times wryly favorable reporting, a reporting always a joy to read, for me.

While we truly regret the absence of Mr Peter Hebblethwaite's elegant reporting and the incisive analysis of Penny Lernoux, and the excellent Gary MacEoin, we are now truly blessed with the great Mr. Allen who does very well the very difficult task which our own NCR entrusts to him, and does it with a smile, which he shares with all who read him.

Your primary concern, which indeed is the primary concern of all Catholics, is thoroughly examined and reported here in the NCR, one of the first to do so among the Catholic press, and consistently and comprehensively. Please pardon Mr. Allen's exercise here in examining if not another, at least a tangential, aspect of our present Catholicism.

DEAR JOHN ALLEN You are

DEAR JOHN ALLEN
You are doing a great service to GOD and to the Roman Catholic Church.
May the HOLY SPIRIT continue to guide you in WISDOM and fill you with COURAGE. You... Your family... and your MISSION and CALL are in my prayers.
Lynn Norton

I too, thought that the title

I too, thought that the title was misleading. Religious Illiteracy? I thought it was going to be about the difficulties with formation in the 21st century and some possible suggestions on how to deal with it.

What I didn't expect was to hear a whiny diatribe about Whether or not Cardinal Danneels was the head of the Belgian Church; or whether the Pope's remarks were misunderstood [hope HE isn't whining this much about it].

The Pope is a public figure and that portion of the article had nothing to do with the premise. Misquoting the Pope has nothing to do with an understanding of how things work in the Catholic Religion. It matters not that he laid out something different in a prior encyclical. He wouldn't be the first person to do an about face on a supposedly "entrenched belief." Given his low credibility with the press right now; the least offensive thing he could be accused of is flip-flopping on an issue.

I think Mr. Allen is having a tough time coming up with stuff to write. This was a stretch. I am disappointed.

There may not be a head of

There may not be a head of the Catholic Church in Belgium or any other country but my memory is that, at least in Ireland and England and probably in other countries, there is a Primatial See (Armagh in Ireland and Westminster in England) whose Archbishop is usually deascribed as "Primate" which gives him precedence over his fellow bishops and he presides at their meetings. I believe that the National Conferences of bishops may rotate that position and may use a different term to describe the role, such as Chairman or President of the Bishops' Conference.
While I have many crows to pick with sensationalist reporters creating their own news, like the "Koran Burning" by a wacky publicity seeker in Gainesville, I think their description of such a bishop as "head of the Church " in any country is understandable even if not precisely accurate and that we have much more serious issues to talk about.
Bill Keane (Theroadrising)

Primates do have extremely

Primates do have extremely limited authority over their brother bishops (mostly formalities, such as who gets to preside at Mass when the bishops are gathered together, where he gets to walk in liturgical processions and who presides at plenary meetings). He can best be described as "primus inter pares" or "first among equals". A primate has no direct authority over a bishop, in fact no one save the Pope can exercise any authority over a bishop; within his diocese, the bishop has absolute and supreme juridic authority (so long as he remains in communion with the Holy Father).

The United States has no primate per se, but due to the age and importance of the Archdiocese of Baltimore as the first diocese in the United States, the Archbishop of Baltimore occupies a position known as "Pride of Place". He takes precedence over all other bishops and archbishops, even those who have larger sees than his or who have been bishops longer, but not over cardinals.

Largely, the role of the primate has been replaced by that of the president of the national conferences of bishops. Some conferences still have the national primate as head of the conference, but increasingly the shadow of democracy is falling on the Church in the selection of the heads of the national conferences.

Bill, you suggest that we "have much more serious issues to talk about". I would concur with this, given the current state of national and international morality, but in order to talk about them, we have to get our terminology correct and understand what we are saying. To the uninformed Catholic reporter, the idea that there is a "head" of a particular national Church leads to the conclusion that that "head" can take some sort of corrective or punative action against bishops who behave in a particular manner (such as covering up for accused priests). But that is nonsense, since each individual bishop is absolute in his own diocese. No other bishop, nor cardinal, nor national episcopal conference has any authority whatsoever over another bishop in his own diocese (unless that bishop agrees to circumscribe his authority in such a way, and his successors are not bound by such agreements).

In order to talk about the important issues, we must have the same language and the same understanding of that language, and that is what Mr. Allen is pointing out so well in this column.

5000 or so direct reporters

5000 or so direct reporters to the Pope???

Maybe that is why Vatican II, under the direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit, called for more episcopal collegiality/subsidiarity and the upgrading of the importance and duties of the national and regional episcopal conferences!!!

I think that the point about

I think that the point about religious illiteracy is not limited to reporting in the news, actually. As a former RC (now C of E and originally Episcopalian in the US), I shuddered at the reporting of the Episcopal Church's election of a lesbian to be suffragan bishop of Los Angeles, and earlier of Gene Robinson's election to be Bishop of New Hampshire. Every major news outlet here in the UK said that Glasspool and Robinson were "appointed bishop". Of course, C of E bishops here are appointed after a limited consultation with a small number of people. In the US Episcopal bishops are elected by a diocese and then their elections are confirmed by consents of a majority of diocesan Bishops and Standing Committees of dioceses. Saying that these people were "appointed" gives the impression here that a small group of people were involved in the process, and that is just wrong. I got after the BBC Religion reporter and he amended what he wrote, but he and others have slipped back to "appointed" in recent years.

I find that in writing in my blog or in other venues, when I use allusions to the Bible or to the Book of Common Prayer or Common Worship, people younger than I am generally do not get them at all. This comes from a combination of general societal irreligiousness here in the UK and a conscious decision on the part of schools not to teach using Biblical or religious themes. This has not (as yet) affected my preaching, as those who attend church usually "get" what I'm talking about when I use religious allusions. But when you mention in reference to learning something "read, mark, learn, and inwardly digest" from Cranmer's Collect for 2nd Advent, you get shrugs when years ago you would get a smile or agreement from people of all ages.

John is right on all counts.

John is right on all counts. The most important point being that their is no head of a "National Church" like a patriarch. What John understandably does not mention is that their are autochthonous churches under the pope who have independent governance. These churches have a married priesthood and culturally determine their own liturgies. These churches accept the pope as the head of the church, yet have independence to make decisions on the local level. This was not the point of his article, but it is a fact the vast majority of catholics know nothing about. One example is the Melkite Catholic Church(Patriarchate).

It is sadly typical of John

It is sadly typical of John Allen that what he chooses to focus on in the very sad affair of Cardinal Godfried Danneels is not what it proves about the church-- that Cardinals are still trying to shut victims up-- but rather on some completely unimportant issue regarding his title.

I guess when you devote your career, as Mr. Allen has, to being an apologist for those who rape children, you lose touch with what is actually important. I wish the NCR would forbid him from writing anything further about the abuse crisis until he spends as much time talking to victims as he has to those who continue to victimize them. He thinks getting Danneels' title right matters, but that the corruption he reveals does not.

Overly harsh criticism of

Overly harsh criticism of John Allen - I really don't think Cardinals are trying to "shut victims up" and John has never been an "apologist for those who rape children". He's about as fair as you can get.

Where to begin!?!?!?

Where to begin!?!?!?

a citation would do

a citation would do

Is there any way to get John

Is there any way to get John Allen's writings without having to put up with NCR and its mindless bloggers?

how about, like, Fr. Thomas,

how about, like, Fr. Thomas, subscribing to the little announcement service available as indicated under the article itself, which sends you email whenever a new column by Mr. Allen comes in and gets posted, and, you know, like, practice the personal discipline of not reading the comment section?

although I for one would miss you . . .

Is it true that when/if a

Is it true that when/if a Monsignor, Bishop, Cardinal....money must be sent by him/or the diocese to Rome? Thousands of dollars...eg $5,000n for the Mnsignor title and upwards from there? My friends say it is common knowledge.

"Hamlet: Ay, madam, it is

"Hamlet: Ay, madam, it is common."

There is an offering sent to

There is an offering sent to the Holy See, primarily to pay for the papal documents issued, and as an offering to defray the expenses of the Holy See (remember that, except for the annual Peter's Pence collection, the Holy See's only other source of major revenue is its investments; it's not like the Holy See is rolling in money).

I was very close to my former Archbishop (now a Cardinal in another see), and when he named several priests to the rank of monsignor, he told me the offering was quite small. He did not give me an exact figure, nor did I ask, but, from what he said, it was merely a nominal amount. The Chicago Tribune reported that the cost was about $150, which is probably about right.

There are costs either to the diocese/archdiocese or to the priests themselves, or both, to purchase the monsignoral cassocks and other livery. But, those are also nominal. Depending on where one purchases them, a cassock in monsignoral purple might cost $300-$500, the biretta a $100 and the cincture maybe $100. So all told, the total cost might be around $1000 for the clerical attire.

Now it is true that when the Pope creates a cardinal, that new cardinal is expected to make an offering somewhere around $600 to pay for the cost of his cardinalatial ring (the Holy Father gives all new cardinals a ring that is unique to the cardinal and has the Holy Father's coat of arms engraved somewhere on it). The cardinal also must purchase new attire, the Holy See does not do that; cassock and cincture in scarlet, new scarlet zuchetto (vulgarly called a "skullcap"), and related items. All total, a new cardinal probably pays $2000 or $3000 for new vesture and for the offering to the Holy See.

What many people claim is that one can purchase papal honors. That is simply not the case.

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