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On cardinals, consistories and 'Caritas in Veritate'
If there’s one thing even the most religiously illiterate person tends to get about the Catholic church, it’s the difference between a cardinal and everybody else. Cardinals matter: they set a leadership tone, and, of course, they elect the next pope.
The news this week that Benedict XVI has named 24 new cardinals, including 20 who are under 80 and hence eligible to vote in a conclave, merits a few reflections. (My news story on the appointments, including the full list of names, can be found here: Wuerl and Burke among 24 new cardinals).
First, it would not seem that Benedict XVI has stacked the deck in any ideological sense. While there are no real liberals in this crop (not by the standards of secular politics, or for that matter in ecclesiastical terms), neither is the Nov. 20 consistory stuffed with arch-conservatives. In general, there’s a rough balance between traditionalists and pragmatists. The American appointments offer an example, with both the uncompromising Archbishop Raymond Burke and the centrist Archbishop Donald Wuerl.
If Benedict’s aim had been to fill the College of Cardinals with the most conservative prelates available, he could have elevated Archbishop André-Joseph Léonard of Brussels, for example.
In truth, Benedict seems determined to defer to tradition at almost every turn, rather than placing his own personal stamp on the college. He sticks close to the ceiling of 120 voting-age cardinals established by Pope Paul VI (while John Paul II sometimes ignored it); he won’t break with custom by naming a new cardinal before his predecessor turns 80 (that’s why Archbishops Timothy Dolan of New York and Vincent Nichols of Westminster, as well as Léonard and several others, were not on the list); and he insists on giving the red hat to all those Vatican officials who have traditionally held it.
Second, Benedict is continuing what some analysts have described as the “re-Italianization” of the church’s senior government, with ten of the 24 new cardinals, and eight of the 20 electors, being Italians. Some wags in the Vatican press corps have dubbed the Nov. 20 consistory the “revenge of the Italians” because it brings the Italian share of the electors up from 17 percent to 20 -- or one-fifth of the total.
Third, and related to the point above, ten of the 20 new cardinal-electors are Vatican officials, which will bring the total of Vatican officials among voting-age cardinals to 40 -- representing one-third of the total electorate for the next pope.
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Fourth, while there are a few obvious efforts to recognize the church outside the West -- elevating a Coptic patriarch from Egypt, for example, as well as four Africans -- in the end, only seven of the 20 new electors come from outside Europe and North America. The appointments thus extend a demographic imbalance between the church at the bottom and at the top. Two-thirds of the 1.2 billion Catholics in the world today live in the global south, but two-thirds of the cardinals are from the north.
Fifth, some people may ask whether these appointments say anything about the church’s response to the sexual abuse crisis.
The basic answer is “no,” in the sense that most of these new cardinals don’t have a high profile on the issue. Had Benedict wanted to send a clear signal on that front, he could have tapped Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin, just ahead of the coming visitation in Ireland.
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Martin is widely seen as a point person for an aggressive response to the crisis. Instead, Benedict again deferred to tradition -- Ireland is a small country that already has a cardinal under 80 in Sean Brady of Armagh. (The situation is further complicated by the fact that while Martin is enormously popular with the public and the media, he’s a divisive figure for some clergy and bishops.)
Sixth, there also doesn’t seem to be burning concern with a perceived PR problem at the senior levels of the church. At least in the English-speaking world, the best natural communicators in the queue -- Martin of Ireland, Dolan of New York, and Archbishop Thomas Collins of Toronto -- have to wait for another day.
In general, one could analyze the Nov. 20 consistory largely as a “business as usual” set of appointments. This remains a teaching pontificate, premised on what I’ve called Affirmative Orthodoxy -- presenting classic Christian doctrine in the most positive terms possible.
Benedict simply is not much interested in governance and thus tends to stick to the script on matters such as who becomes a cardinal -- which, in this case, translates into a bumper crop of Italians and church bureaucrats.
Whether that’s a commendably evangelical focus on the heart of the Christian message, or self-defeating indifference to a “crisis of governance” under this pontificate -- or, perhaps, both -- rests in the eye of the beholder.
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Handicappers tend to scrutinize a consistory with one key question in mind: Is there a new papabile in the bunch, i.e., a strong candidate to become the next pope?
The consensus answer this time around is “yes,” and it’s Italian Archbishop Gianfranco Ravasi, President of the Pontifical Council for Culture. Here’s a piece I did on Ravasi from February, laying out why many people find him so impressive: A prelate with the mind of Ratzinger and the heart of Roncalli.
The sound-bite version is this: Ravasi is a prelate with the mind of Ratzinger and the heart of Roncalli. At his best, he blends the intellectual acumen of Benedict XVI and the pastoral heart of John XXIII.
More about the new cardinals:
- Thumbnail bios of new cardinals -- part 1
- Thumbnail bios of new cardinals -- part 2
- Thumbnail bios of new cardinals -- part 3
- Thumbnail bios of new cardinals -- part 4 and last
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When a pope issues a social encyclical, part of the point is to stimulate a conversation about how faith convictions might shape policy choices. On the strength of a fascinating two days in Rome last week, I can report that in the case of Benedict XVI’s encyclical Caritas in Veritate, which appeared one year ago, the conversation is alive and well indeed.
The setting was an Oct. 15-16 symposium hosted by the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace in its offices in Rome’s Piazza San Callisto and organized by the U.S.-based Institute for Advanced Catholic Studies. The architects were Marianist Fr. James Heft, who founded the institute, Daniel Finn of St. John’s University and Paul Caron, a retired European banker, who help lead the institute’s “True Wealth of Nations” project
The symposium assembled some 26 leading lights of Catholic social thought in the United States, representing a variety of disciplines and points of view, along with a handful of observers. The line-up included Mary Jo Bane from Harvard, U.S. Under-Secretary of Commerce Rebecca Blank, Jesuit Fr. John Coleman, Fr. Brian Heihr, Franciscan Fr. Kenneth Himes, Jesuit Fr. David Hollenbach, Katherine Marshall of Georgetown University, and U.S. Ambassador to the Holy See Miguel Diaz.
I was also invited to take part and did my best not to lower the tone.
The symposium was a revolution by the standards of Roman meetings, if for no other reason than this: It allowed an honest-to-God conversation to take place. Rather than reading prepared speeches aloud, participants responded to one another, asked questions, took the conversation in unforeseen directions in response to new ideas, and together explored the terrain of Caritas in Veritate at a depth level that Roman conferences rarely allow. (Organizers had requested participants to submit preliminary papers, which were bound and mailed to everyone so those ideas and insights were already on the table.)
Overall, the experience seemed to confirm that American Catholic social thinkers admire much about the encyclical and are committed to fostering its translation into business practices and policy choices, but also have a few serious reservations about how some aspects of the document were framed.
The hierarchy seemed keenly interested in what this collection of theologians, economists, social scientists and other academics had to say.
Cardinal Peter Turkson, President of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, was present for much of the meeting, though he also had to slip out to attend the Synod of Bishops for the Middle East. His deputies, Bishop Mario Toso (the council’s secretary) and Flaminia Giovanelli (under-secretary) took part in the entire event, as did another official of the council, American Msgr. Anthony Frontiero. On the side of the American bishops, Bishop William Murphy from Rockville Center played an active role in the discussions. (Murphy chairs the U.S. bishops’ Committee on Domestic Justice, Peace and Human Development, after spending fourteen years working in the Pontifical Council in Justice and Peace from 1974 to 1987.)
In the name of the pope, Italian Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Vatican’s Secretary of State, sent a lengthy message of greeting for the symposium.
The symposium took place under “Chatham House Rules,” meaning that I’m able to describe the content, but in order to protect the free flow of discussion I won’t identify which speakers made any specific point.
Caritas in Veritate
When Benedict’s encyclical appeared last July -- just ahead of the G-8 Summit in Italy as well as the pope’s first meeting with U.S. President Barack Obama -- global headlines were dominated by its specific policy prescriptions: a stronger global authority to govern the economy, support for labor unions and greater development assistance for impoverished nations, environmental protections, and so on. Media reports also focused on the pope’s suggestion that greed was beneath the global financial crisis, and hence his argument that recovery strategies need a substructure of personal ethics.
Intellectually, the heart of the encyclical lies in chapter three, on “Fraternity, Development and Civil Society.” That’s where Benedict unfolds the notion of “gratuity” as a key element of a Christian vision of the economy -- how giving and receiving gifts reflects the nature of God, and helps build communities. He argues that the “logic of gratuitousness” must find its place within ordinary economic activity.
Another innovative feature is Benedict’s attempt to integrate bioethics with social analysis -- or, to put it more simply, to blend the church’s pro-life message with its peace-and-justice concerns. He contends that openness to life is at the center of true development.
In effect, Benedict attempted to bring two famed encyclicals of Paul VI back together, which over the last forty years have been championed by very different constituencies -- Humanae vitae, on birth control and other bioethical issues, and Popolorum Progressio, on social development.
Themes of the Symposium
I’ll try to summarize the Oct. 15-16 discussion by identifying a few big-picture themes, though inevitably I can only offer some bits of flavor. Eventually Heft, Finn and Caron intend to produce a book based on the symposium which will capture a much fuller sense of the conversation.
I should add that the symposium was not conceived as an end in itself, but rather as a point of departure for future research efforts.
Language
When academics sink their teeth into something, one has to expect a certain degree of lofty language and there was some of that in Piazza San Callisto. One expert praised the “imaginative capaciousness” of the encyclical and I lost the next five minutes of discussion trying to figure out what that might mean.
For the most part, however, the conversation was remarkably focused. One session wrestled with the meaning of four key terms in Caritas in Veritate:
- Fraternity
- Gift
- Self-interest
- Reciprocity
“Fraternity,” for example, means one thing for European intellectuals who associate it with the French Revolution and another for Americans who think of drunken frat boys on college campuses.
Even for Europeans there’s no consensus about its applicability to Catholic social thought. One speaker argued that its association with the Revolution and the Masonic tradition make it jarring in a Catholic context, while another insisted that the Franciscans had worked out a spirituality of fraternity long before Voltaire and Robespierre arrived on the scene.
One speaker noted that in economics words usually refer to things rather than people, which points to a deeper problem: How to reintegrate the human dimension back into the “dismal science,” so that the focus is on relationships rather than simply transactions.
Much conversation pivoted on the uneasy relationship between the notions of “gift” and “self-interest,” with one speaker making the point that most people probably are never going to make economic decisions purely on the basis of giving something away with no expectation of a return. If the popular sense of self-interest can be expanded to include longer-term considerations and a wider circle of people, however, it might have more bite in driving behavior.
Another speaker challenged that argument, saying that if we look at American foreign policy self-interest usually does trump benevolence, but on the level of individual behavior selflessness actually goes further. Most Americans, for example, did not contribute to earthquake relief efforts in Haiti in the expectation of getting something back.
Another focus was the challenge of opening up the encyclical for a wider audience. Some participants argued for using more familiar and easily-understood language, while others insisted that if the church believes some aspects of contemporary culture are profoundly distorted it’s compelled to invent a new vocabulary to present an alternative.
Excessive fretting about communications and public relations, one person argued, leads to “intellectual conservatism” -- forever being constrained to speak the language of today rather than tomorrow.
Gift vs. Justice
Perhaps the most serious theological challenge to Caritas in Veritate was on the question of “gratuity” as the cornerstone for economic analysis. Simply put, some speakers felt that an emphasis on gift came at the expense of justice and therefore marks a backward step in terms of Catholic social theory.
The argument goes this way: By definition, giving a gift is a free act. If I was obliged or required to give you something, that’s not a gift. Theologically, that’s the nature of grace -- something God freely bestows, without any requirement to do so.
Justice, on the other hand, is all about obligation. If I steal $100 from you, I’m required in justice to give it back and no court of law would ever regard that payment as a gift.
The question is: What term best expresses our responsibility toward the poor? Should we conceive of it under the rubric of freely given gifts, or is there a real duty in justice towards the poor that demands action, rather than merely inviting it?
A lively discussion ensued, with some arguing that the concept of “gift” waters down the requirements of justice, while others insisted that it doesn’t cancel the concept of an obligation to the poor but rather augments it with a new spiritual perspective.
One speaker, for example, said that there’s a danger in trying to motivate people solely on the basis of duty because “love can grow cold.” Duty alone may not be enough to sustain the long-term motivation necessary to curb poverty and other social ills, while the delight of gifts perhaps can.
Distinctiveness vs. Uniqueness
Christian ethics has long wrestled with the question of what’s distinctive about the Christian approach: Do Christians have a unique set of conclusions about ethical matters, or is it merely that they sometimes have special motives for reaching the same conclusions that, in principle, any man or woman of good will might arrive at?
That debate also surfaced in the symposium, with one speaker urging a careful distinction between being “distinct” and being “unique.” Christians can be distinct, this person argued, without being absolutely singular -- offering an emphasis on “eco-justice” in environmental debates as a case in point. That tends to be a distinctive Christian touch, this speaker said, even though some other voices say much the same thing.
Another participant, however, insisted that there is something about the Christian approach that goes beyond universal human moral instincts. He offered the example of self-giving love, willing to die to oneself in order that others may live. Ultimately, this person said, that’s what Benedict means by the “logic of gratuity” -- leading the speaker to muse aloud as to whether a non-believer can even really grasp the argument of Caritas in Veritate.
Be careful about blame
Some participants felt that, perhaps unintentionally, Caritas in Veritate seems to take swipes at a couple of important social constituencies, potentially alienating people who otherwise might be the church’s partners in tackling the problems identified in the encyclical -- poverty, war, environmental challenges, and so on.
First, some participants read Caritas in Veritate to mean that unbelief in God is at the root of an inadequate response to the problems of human development. That assertion, they argued, sets an uneasy tension with Benedict’s ambition to address (and persuade) not just members of the Catholic church, but “all people of good will.”
Second, some participants also question the pope’s linkage of bioethics with other matter of social justice, which could suggest that people who disagree with Catholic teaching on matters such as abortion or homosexuality are responsible for other social ills. One speaker said he’s heard reactions along the lines of, “You mean because I’m gay, climate change is my fault?”
Most seemed to concur that’s not what Benedict meant, but they nonetheless worried that people who don’t know the mind of the pope, or Catholic social teaching, might be tempted to read the encyclical that way.
Women and Gender
Academics notoriously tend to have their pet obsessions, so whenever a church document appears and their idée fixe isn’t treated they tend to object.
It’s no surprise, therefore, that some discussion in the symposium focused on what’s not in the encyclical -- from its attention to education and health care to the problem of selective abortions in some parts of the world that have produced an estimated 100-120 million “missing girls” because female children are perceived in some cultures as undesirable.
Setting aside the personal interests of some participants, however, there seemed fairly wide agreement that one issue in particular is notable mostly by its absence in Caritas in Veritate: gender issues and women.
Participants stressed that most development experts believe the promotion of women is one key to alleviating poverty, since women and children tend to be its primary victims. It’s also central, in the eyes of many experts, to the development of democracy and healthy civil societies.
In terms of why Caritas in Veritate doesn’t devote more space to women’s issues, one participant floated the theory that perhaps debates over the role of women inside the Catholic church lurk in the background. Whatever the explanation, there seemed general agreement that the emancipation and empowerment of women is a theme that merits more reflection as Catholic social theory develops, especially in the church’s official documents.
As a footnote, while some participants pointed to what’s missing from Caritas in Veritate, others complained that it tried to do way too much -- that some portions of the document read like a laundry list of issues that don’t really advance the discussion.
One speaker felt compelled to remind the symposium that “it’s an encyclical, not an encyclopedia.” The point of the document, this person said, is to offer a method for engaging social questions, not a comprehensive treatment of every imaginable issue.
Dialogue with practitioners
Though this was a largely academic meeting, a few flesh-and-blood business people were also in the room. One made among the most memorable interventions of the symposium, reflecting on the recent financial collapse in the States driven in part by “super-derivatives” -- a financial instrument, he said, with no “economic substance” behind it, and from which no benefits flow for the housing market.
This speaker memorably described how he sees the philosophy behind such practices: “I’m coming in with an eye patch and a flag with the skull and crossbones and my goal is to take everything that’s not nailed down. But because I told you up front that’s what I’m doing, I’m immune.”
That comment triggered a good deal of reflection about the need for economists and social theorists to be in contact with real-world business professionals, to bring ethical wisdom to bear on rapidly mutating market practices.
One participant pointed out that such testimony ought to prompt researchers to broaden their notion of what counts as “empirical” because this business person’s description of super-derivatives won’t show up in any statistical chart, but it’s as empirical as things come.
Another participant distinguished three types of law: legal (violation of which triggers sanctions), social (shame) and moral (guilt). The problem is that for the most part, only the first type of law gets any traction in our society. Since the financial transactions in our info-tech world are so immediate and sophisticated, laws by themselves will never be able to insure justice -- which points to the need for the cultivation of virtue.
Tribalism in the U.S. Church
Another focus of discussion was on the problem of polarization in U.S. Catholicism -- or, more accurately, tribalization, since the landscape is more complex than a simple division into left and right.
One speaker argued that beyond the intellectual reception of Caritas in Veritate, it’s also important to ponder its sociological reception in the States -- an aim made infinitely more difficult by the fractured nature of American Catholic life, perhaps most acutely the de facto split between the pro-life and the peace-and-justice wings of the American church.
The most eloquent expression of the point came from a participant who teaches at an American Catholic university, but who comes from outside the United States. While this scholar expressed admiration for the vitality and the resources of American Catholicism, he also said he’s found the acrimonious climate of the church in the United States “frustrating” and “stifling.”
In truth, he said, the tendency for American Catholics to be at one another’s throats is almost enough to make him want to “pack up and go home.”
Later, there was some discussion about how the Institute for Advanced Catholic Studies, perhaps in partnership with other Catholic studies programs across the country, might consider some new initiative designed to overcome these divisions.
[John L. Allen Jr. is NCR senior correspondent. His e-mail address is jallen@ncronline.org.]
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"Cardinals matter: they set a
"Cardinals matter: they set a leadership tone." Really? It seems that the tiny number of Cardinals who speak out on anything are impossible to understand because their feet are in their mouths. Do you mean Cardinals who wear the long Cappa Magna, or who are mean to gay people, or who call AIDS a result of God's justice? Please show me a Cardinal who has set a "leadership tone" for anyone other than perhaps his own diocesan flock. Bishops in general have a huge credibility challenge, and the rest of us are burdened with an enormous leadership vacuum.
Oh, you mean those same
Oh, you mean those same cardinals who continue to bash gays while deliberately turning to look the other way as they knowingly ordain gay men to the priesthood? Or cardinals who support the pope's decision to permit Anglican clergy with families to convert, and are admitted to ordination to the priesthood while denying the same privilege to latin-rite clergy?
It's time for revolution and reform. If necessary, the only recourse may be widespread disobedience by the People of God (you know the "royal priesthood" which always seems to get it in the neck) and clergy alike. Widespread disobedience and denial of financial support from one end of Benedict's model of Church as seen through 10th century lenses, to another.
The Old Geezers Club governing Benedict's court, like the Mafia, understand two things: MONEY and POWER. The laity and lower clergy must be prepared to follow a strategy that denies them both.
Women Cardinals. Where are
Women Cardinals. Where are the women cardinals? Isn't it time that unordained women were made cardinals so they could advise the pope and the other cardinals about the other half of the church -- the women. This is where you will find true leadership. I am sure the pope could find five good women who are as capable as any male cardinal. (Married Priests USA)
Once again John Allen gives
Once again John Allen gives an insightful take on the new Cardinals. I note that Fr. Larson is still stuck in the failed 1960's. Btw Father, it is 2010. He views Catholic teaching as "mean." So if I tell someone not to jump off a cliff I am being mean? If there is a leadership vacuum it began with the clergy of his generation. Benedict is now cleaning up the mess.
Fr. J, your logic is a bit
Fr. J, your logic is a bit skewed. Your metaphor of jumping off a cliff as related to servant pastoral leadership is way off base when comparing "mean".
Dear Fr. J, "the failed
Dear Fr. J, "the failed 1960s?" As students of human consciousness development know, there was a huge shift in the 1960s from the modern enlightenment rational worldview upward to the postmodern pluralistic worldview. Developments in consciousness do not go backwards (though they can be fiercely resisted) and institutions based on the old worldview that fail to adapt just die out. Takes a good while, of course, but it's inevitable.
Joan, mortal sin IS jumping
Joan, mortal sin IS jumping off a cliff. As a pastor it is my obligation to warn people not to do it. That isn't mean. Telling someone that homosexual acts are morally good is mean since it encourages them to commit mortal sins.
John, who said it is inevitable? If the post '60's culture of death wins out then we will all "die out." The gospel transcends culture and always challenges it. That is often unpopular and leads to the old saying "the Christians to the lions." Frankly I don't think human consciousness had grown that much since the garden of Eden and that incident involving a tree.
the uncompromising Archbishop
the uncompromising Archbishop Raymond Burke and the centrist Archbishop Donald Wuerl
The opposite of "uncompromising" isn't "centrist"; it's "compromising".
the rest of us are burdened with an enormous leadership vacuum.
Even real leaders can tire of being smeared for their trouble, as being "mean".
Allen didn't imply that
Allen didn't imply that centrist and uncompromising were opposites. He was simply characterizing those two particular bishops, and accurately. One can also be an uncompromising centrist, you know. I wish more bishops were.
This appears to be a reaction
This appears to be a reaction to the Eastern Patriarchs' 4 statements, one of which is that they should be players in the election of a pope, above the cardinals, who, after all, are appointees of the pope. The timing is obvious.
What an incredibly naive
What an incredibly naive statement. This consistory has been rumored for almost a year. Also, note that the Coptic Patriarch of Alexandria, an Eastern Rite, was made a Cardinal. Please don't be ignorant.
Since bishops are the heirs
Since bishops are the heirs to the apostles, can you tell me how we could have super apostles? Isn't there some extreme distortionary hype in all of this, especially where we came to the point of naming the bishop of Rome "first among equals"? After all, even an auxiliary bishop is equal to the apostles.
Repeat after me... "There's no place like Rome; there's no place like..."
Earth to Dorothy...
Once Again, John Allen speaks
Once Again, John Allen speaks as the top Vatican PR Officer.
May we have another view or two, please.
These appointments DO say
These appointments DO say something about the church’s response to the sexual abuse crisis. . .something distressing: the scandal isn't important enough to get Benedict to bend tradition, even a tiny bit, to ease the deep wounds of suffering victims and grieving Catholics.
Allen is right: "Had Benedict wanted to send a clear signal on that front, he could have tapped Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin, just ahead of the coming visitation in Ireland." But he simply didn't care enough to do so.
And instead, he elevated Archbishop Raymond Burke, whose track record on abuse and cover up is just awful. (see http://www.snapmidwest.org/htm/UnderBurke.htm)
David Clohessy, Director, SNAP, Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, (7234 Arsenal Street, St. Louis MO 63143), 314 566 9790 cell (SNAPclohessy@aol.com)
Actually Donald Wuerl is
Actually Donald Wuerl is related to both the Vatican official and the sex abuse. In the former case he was in the Vatican as the secretary to a bishop whose name I can't remember for about a decade. He was apparently well thought of, which is why he has been placed in positions by the Vatican.
Not too long after he became bishop of Pittsburgh, there was a sex abuse case (I remember it as early 90's while I was living in Pgh.) He immediately suspended the priest. The priest appealed to the Vatican. By the rules in effect at the time, the priest got his colar back. Very quietly, Bp Wuerl went to the Vatican for a talk. When he got back, the priest was not wearing his collar.
Also he had a Catechism published before the CotCC was issued. When the later came out, he revised not the content nr the style but the references.
He is very low key but very solid and well thought of in the Vatican and among other Christian leaders. He would gather with them on Mt Washington yearly to bless and pray for the city.
Wuerl was Cardinal Wright's
Wuerl was Cardinal Wright's secretary.
Since Cardinal Wright was recovering from a hospitalization,Wuerl was allowed to accompany him into the conclave that elected John Paul II despite not being a Cardinal himself.
I'm glad you brought this out
I'm glad you brought this out about the good bishop. Bishop Wuerl is not so good at calling out Catholic politicians. Dissident politicians who call themselves Catholic , but do not vote in a Catholic way.
But thanks for explaining the good work of the Bishop.
It's queue, not cue.
It's queue, not cue.
Much ado about nothing.
Much ado about nothing.
Two comments in Mr. Allen's
Two comments in Mr. Allen's superb essay caught my attention. First was the unanswered question as to whether or not in social justice issues, Catholic teaching is substantially different from secular thought. I'd like to hear more on that point. Second was the comment by one of the delegates that at this juncture American Catholics are so much "at one another's throats" as to make that particular participant (a European academic teaching at an American Catholic university) want to "pack up and go home." the gentleman tells it like it is.
Is the next conclave not
Is the next conclave not stacked with the opinions/convictions and conservative thinking of the present Pope, rather than by the inspirations of the Holy Spirit or the thinking of the people of God?
In the Early Church, the
In the Early Church, the People of God were the ones who identified good candidates for leadership. But in those days the Holy Spirit led the Church, rather than men, whose only goal was to preserve the princely benefits of "Clericalism." The People of God were also the ones, who kicked out inept, corrupt leaders, as evidenced in the Book of Revelation of St. John the Divine. The second chapter tells us that they threw out their leaders, who were proven to be LIARS! The way to the top of the present day Catholic Church is not to be known as a Holy, Man of God, but rather to be known as a bishop, who toes the line and defends the Church from SCANDAL, even when he knows the Church and the priests, whom he supervises, to be in the wrong. In other words, all one needs to do is read past quotes from newspaper accounts to see how truthful and concerned most of the bishops have been in the past. Almost all of them are mercilessly consolidating churches and closing churches. Would Jesus Christ have done this? Would Jesus have lied to the press and his congregations for the last 10 years regarding the Priest Pedophilia Scandal? What would Jesus do with most of the candidates for the red hat? I doubt that he'd promote them!
With B16's stacked deck of a
With B16's stacked deck of a college, when it comes time for them to select his successor maybe the rest of the Church should be thinking of choosing an antipope.
B16 is a Benedictine. Is it
B16 is a Benedictine. Is it true that no less than 50 Benedictines will vote in the next election. Shades of Chicago!!2T
....not as bad - in Chicago
....not as bad - in Chicago they let the dead vote.
He's not in the OSB,and there
He's not in the OSB,and there are no members of the OSB in the College of Cardinals.(There are only seven Benedictine archbishops active worldwide,and two retired).
Allen isn't referring to
Allen isn't referring to individual cardinals setting a "leadership tone", but rather the tone the pope sets by who he names to the college. And I agree that the tone is "business as usual".
Obviously ideology isn't a factor or else Burke and Wuerl wouldn't both be named. But they each hold offices that are traditionally held by cardinals, so in they go. Americans, with our polarized notions of politics and religion, have a hard time understanding this. But the European Church is more nuanced in its thinking.
However, what the European Church is not is forward thinking. The effort to stack the college with Europeans at the expense of the global south has panic written all over it. Eventually there will be a pope from the developing world and when that happens watch out! There will be plenty for both traditionalists and progressives to get nervous about.
If there is a message to take from this list of new cardinals, it is that the pope is in denial about the new face of Catholicism -- and that face is from the south.
I agree with this whole
I agree with this whole heartedly. Benedict seems quite committed to keeping old cultured European Catholicism in charge of the Catholic show. The lack of representation for the South is shameful and I do believe represents a great deal of fear. Change would most certainly be on the agenda if the South was ever truly represented in the Vatican.
"Martin is ... a divisive
"Martin is ... a divisive figure for some clergy and bishops."
And Archbishop Burke isn't???
So making the Coptic
So making the Coptic patriarch a cardinal seems kind of insulting to the guy, doesn’t it? Shouldn’t patriarchs outrank cardinals prima facie? Shouldn’t they have called him a Patriarch Elector, or something like that, instead?
Treating Patriarchs as
Treating Patriarchs as outranking Cardinals would imply that they are the Pope's equals.They may like that idea but it's not consistent with his being the Supreme Pontiff.This is the third Coptic patriarch in a row to be made a Cardinal.(Note that the line of Coptic Catholic Patriarchs is far from unbroken since Saint Mark...the Coptic Orthodox and Eastern Orthodox patriarchal lines in Alexandria are more consistent).
"Benedict simply is not much
"Benedict simply is not much interested in governance"
John, I normally admire your judgement in what you write. Are you upset that Benedict isn't following your script for governance. You are right though, he is not too interested in what the paparatzi say - a bit like the Man he represents.
" he is not too interested in
" he is not too interested in what the paparatzi say - a bit like the Man he represents....
Yes. You are right mate!
After a Conference in Paris, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger said:I'm like Rostropovich, I do not read my critics.
...a bit like the Man he represents.
I only hope and pray that
I only hope and pray that when the next conclave is open the Holy Spirit will infuse in these narrow-sighted cardinals a vision that the people-in-the-pew will joyously and resounding respond. Otherwise, my great, great grandchildren might not have a Catholic church that is one which believes in justice, compassion, reconciliation, hope and love.
But is this the Church our
But is this the Church our Lord Jesus expected to be this age?
And what about nominating two thirds of these form the First World and ignoring the majority of Catholics hail from the third world countries, representing "two thirds" of world's catholic population...?
Yes, John resembles another Vatican PR. NCR must offer other views from authors who live in third world countries. Only one Cardinal from mostly poor South America,- the other one is a reitred Arcbishop) where more than 330 million catholics reside? The rest from the Curia itself...people who never thread in poor shantytowns, marginalized favelas? Do you read thia John? You did not mention the continent, whic his right ot the South where you live. Are you kidding? Readers must listen to people who view all this from a poor country's point of view.
It is sheer hypocrisy. I would understand a "leadership tone", when they quit showing off red berettas, reminiscents of power, obsolete and anti-gospel symbols of rich princeships of the middleages.
On the one hand poverty is denounced in highly propagated Encyclicals like Caritas in Veritate....like this Symposiums on the same in Rome....while on the other hand, the Cardinals themselves, who ought to give the first expample do not renounce to red hats, red rich garbs...cappa magnas..all symbols of power: a clear denial of the gospel, where Jesus announces the liberation of the poor.
Otherwise I consider losing my precious time to worry about all this " Roman Curia's business as usual", with no change of attitude in view. Shame.
THE WHOLE SYSTEM SUCKS... I
THE WHOLE SYSTEM SUCKS...
I have already PACKED UP and gone
HOME... to GOD who is FREEDOM from
all this stuff and whom we can each
find in HIS WORLD and in HIS WORD..AMEN
Come on, this is a fairly
Come on, this is a fairly boring bunch of appointments.
Pity the papacy and the
Pity the papacy and the cardinals were not instituted by Christ.....for, if they had been, they would be important. As every catholic knows these offices evolved over time.
Summary: Who among the
Summary: Who among the laity and/or progressive clergy really cares?
Pax. Aristophilos
Just what THE MACHINE
Just what THE MACHINE needs:
"...a bumper crop of Italians and church bureaucrats."
And as the American nominees more than adequately demonstrate, one does not reach these higher echelons because one is a PASTORAL leader!
Anxiously awaiting the new ITALIAN Pope!
Thanks, John, for your serene
Thanks, John, for your serene report.
Just to add to the 2nd and 3rd point (Number of Italians among the cardinals): by definition, beside the extraordinary moment of the Conclave, the cardinals are the regular counselors of the Pope. Historically, they were the Parish priests of the Diocese of Rome supporting the Bishop of Rome. Even today, all cardinals have a Titular Church in Rome.
To assist the Holy Father, they are to be at hand, and possibly in a strategic position, where they see the wide panorama of the whole Church. (Just think about the deep knowledge of the situation of the Church when card. Ratzinger was the Prefect of a Congregation...) Of course, the rest of the Church must be -and is- represented, but with all due respect, some of the cardinals in far away corners of the world have rather a limited local perception of the situation of the rest of the Church. Yes, they are also necessary with the riches of their views; and so we have them both, contributing jointly to the common good. It is what makes the Church universal, Catholic.
The exact numbers of the cardinals have not come from Mount Sinai, so let us pray for all of them to do their best.
Given the makeup of the
Given the makeup of the College of Cardinals, the next Pope will be similar to Benedict and might even be worse. Another reactionary who wants to return to the pre Enlightenment Church of Clerical privlidge, divine right monarchies, etc. The hierarchy has utterly failed to engage the modern laity and in fact, has just dug in and become more combative.
We have had 32 years of cracking down, trying to roll back Vatican II, and much of the laity is sick and tired of the complete lack of pastoral leadership. "Pay, pray and obey" is all we hear.
We need a Pope with vision, and we have not had one since John XXIII. Actually, another Italian might be a good thing, since Angelo Roncalli was Italian and while Montini had his faults, at least lived in the 20th century.
The Church is much more than just cracking down on dissent and railing about sex, sex and sex, while the world festers at war and in poverty. We need men of vision who are real leaders and not just cops like Burke, who excommunicated laymen for wanting a voice in their own parish.
Much of the hierarchy seems determined to drive out of the Church as many people as possible. They seem to have the mindset of "you and me, God and nobody else." To think that the Creator of this vast universe is going to do exactly what they tell him is beyond a joke. The hierarchy does NOT speak for the Almighty, they do not have a hot line to God, they do not control God.
We need a Pope with vision and courage, another John XXIII, not timid, narrow minded men who are bullied by the snide court Eunichs of the Vatican. The Vatican is becoming more and more like the Imperial Court of China in the late 19th century: corrupt, incompetent and filled with fawning eunuchs. Not a man among them.
Change is coming, and rather than evolutionary, it will be revolutionary, and more difficult to control. You cannot maintain "business as usual" forever.
"We need a Pope with vision
"We need a Pope with vision and courage, another John XXIII, not timid, narrow minded men who are bullied by the snide court Eunichs of the Vatican."
- You know, Austin, based on your screed here, I'm willing to bet that you've read pretty much nothing that Bl John XXIII has written. If you did, considering what it appears your outlook to be, you would end up hating him as much as you do BXVI.
Here are some of his major encyclicals.
Also here are his sermons.
The sermons and most of his other letters are unfortunately in either Latin or Italian. It's not big deal though, as you can simply plug them into Google's online free translator. The language will be a bit stilted, but fully readable.
I urge you to read them. One thing will strike you: Bl John XXIII was not some heterodox freethinker. He was as orthodox as Benedict is, or for that matter Paul VI, or Pius XII, etc. But don't take my word for it. Go and read them yourself.
Anything the pope does or
Anything the pope does or says means nothing as long as Bernard Law continues to hold a position of honor and power in Rome. The appointment of Cappa Burke and Light-weight Wuerl states: Law stays and if you don't like it go join another religion.
Well, many of us have and will continue the down-sizing of an over-sized, stifling panorama of corruption, narcissism and debauchery.
Maybe someday God will come
Maybe someday God will come and . . .
Peter, Benedict is acting
Peter, Benedict is acting under the guidance of the Holy Spirit and the People of God. Not just you. Although you seem to believe you are the Holy Spirit and the spokesman for the People of God. Sorry to burst that bubble.
David, we know what you want. The total destruction of the Church. You are not interested in reform, if you were you would be supporting Pope Benedict.
Rhetts, he can still use the title Patriarch in preference. But being a Cardinal gives him a role in the conclave.
John Churchman, if you want other views you can find them in a multitude of places. That is if you are looking for something that feeds your prejudices rather then informs you of what is actually going on. I despise the NCR, but Allen is usually right on target about Church affairs. He is interested in the truth. I respect that.
"Fr." J. the holy spirit?
"Fr." J. the holy spirit? Rather the unholy spirit!! All his actions betray his the exhortations which make front page. "By there actions you shall know them." Besides, the pompous trappings, and lifestyle of B 16 are un-excusable in light of the abject poverty of millions in this world. The people of God he ignores completely, not the international media, however.
Martha, he is ignoring the
Martha, he is ignoring the people who tell him to give in to the world, the flesh, and the devil. He is listening to God. You apparently prefer the sirens who will tell you what you want to hear. If you are Catholic then perhaps it is time for you to explore founding your own religion. Follow your "spirits" if you will. They will lead you to a place where the temperatures are uncomfortably warm.
What are the cardinals'
What are the cardinals' duties, as cardinals, aside from electing popes and looking colorful at ceremonies? I am not asking about their full-time jobs whether in the curia or as archbishops of the largest sees.
How much do their robes and other accoutrements cost, and who pays for them?
Cardinals comprise the inner
Cardinals comprise the inner most circle, deepest layer, of the all-male feudal oligarchy which presently dominates the Catholic Church, and has dominated the church for most of 17 centuries. A very exclusive club, indeed. Think, eagle scouts. The rituals surrounding cardinals is intended to reinforce the bonding between the cardinals and the pope. The name 'cardinal' comes from the Latin for "hinge," thus cardinals are the hinges which hold up the papacy.
One of the reasons they wear blood-red vestments is as a symbol that they pledge to spill their blood to defend the papacy. No one gets into this inner circle without swearing oaths of loyalty to the pope. These men are very committed radicals.
The cardinal's accoutrements cost plenty and are usually made by the same Roman tailor who outfits the pope. By the time that a man is made a cardinal he has demonstrated formidable fund raising skills - it's part of the job description of a cardinal. These are powerful men who have access to great wealth and they know how to weld it. But ultimately in a manner of speaking, I guess you could say that all of us pay for it by our slavish financial support of the hierarchs.
The last non-Italian pope before JP2 was called Adrian from the Netherlands. His election in 1522 was in part a reaction against a overly militarized and politicized papacy. When he arrived in Rome and stepped out of his carriage, Adrian was confronted with numerous mounted knights in full armor. The story goes that Adrian leaned over to his carmerlengo to complain, "I asked to be received by the cardinals only." The carmerlengo's reported response was, "But, your Holiness, these are the cardinals."
'. . . there is something
'. . . there is something about the Christian approach that goes beyond universal human moral instincts. He offered the example of self-giving love, willing to die to oneself in order that others may live.' What incredible narrowness! So only Christians are ready to die for their spouses, their children, or even their country? Now we know that even animals will die for others. Self-sacrifice is not only cherished in all religions, it's inscribed into Creation as 'an integral part of evolutionary dynamics, alongside mutation and selection,' teaches Sarah Coakley.
The words of the angel at
The words of the angel at Jesus' tomb should guide our response to the naming of new cardinals: "Why do you look for the living among the dead?" (Luke 24:5)
Hopelessly and perpetually compromised, complicit and corrupt cardinals will never be the answer to what ails the church.
If you await a reformed and renewed church, the best thing one could do is to forget about the hierarchy. Ignore them - attention of any kind only encourages them. The hierarchs, especially the ones appointed by B16, are incapable of extricating the church from its present dilemmas.
If Catholics would only demonstrate that they can live their lives quite well completely free of the hierarchs, then we might see a change not only in tone but substance from the corporate hierarchy.
As long as the entire
As long as the entire hierarchy is dependent upon the caprice of other members of this old boy's club and the pope as the final voice in the selection process, you can forget about reform of this fetid swamp of perversion. There will never be reform or a modernization of the Church ,beyond biting along the edges of this antique cookie, until the laity and lower clergy take firm charge establish structures of their own, threaten to deny financial support as part of their strategy, and the bishops have been forced to return to being shepherds instead of pontificating feudal lords.
"If Benedict’s aim had been
"If Benedict’s aim had been to fill the College of Cardinals with the most conservative prelates available, he could have elevated Archbishop André-Joseph Léonard of Brussels, for example."
Because Belgium (Brussels) has a cardinal at this time, I don't think the pope would elevate another Belgian, even if he liked the conservatism of Leonard. At least, that was a reason given in the press for why Dolan of NYC was not made a cardinal at this time (Egan is still alive).
So what comes first: the
So what comes first: the people of God, or the Cardinals Emeriti?
Westminster, Brussels, Toronto, New York, and many other dioceses did not have their Cardinal, for the only reason, as everybody knows "to conserve tradition".
These important Dioceses did not enjoy having their Cardinal, for no other reason.
Imagine, if there were a Conclave, and one of the afore mentioned Archbishops would have been the best Godsent choice as a pope! Good gracious: "tradition" would have won the day.
Exactly as in the time of Jesus: He faced the anger of pharisees, who just to "conserve tradition" forgot the greater and deeper values of the people of God: individual and common good.
So, not to "hurt" the other Cardinals "Emeriti", who are just living their extra "years", doing nothing else - the people of God´s pastoral value, comes after.
For heavens sake!!
Raymond Burke will always be
Raymond Burke will always be an embarrasment to American Catholics. Cardinal designate Wuerl has a decent track record of being intellectually acute and pastorally sensitive. He is one of the brightest lights in the USCCB today, respected everywhere but Seattle. H e was caught in a mess in Seattle in 1986, sent to do an impossible job. Bernardin and Quinn negotiated a peaceful solution, Wuerl went to Pitsburgh, and then D.C. Ad multos annos, Donald!
"Any of the people of Israel,
"Any of the people of Israel, or of the aliens who reside in Israel, who give any of their offspring to Molech shall be put to death; the people of the land shall stone them to death. I myself will set my face against them, and will cut them off from the people, because they have given of their offspring to Molech, defiling my sanctuary and profaning my holy name. And if the people of the land should ever close their eyes to them, when they give of their offspring to Molech, and do not put them to death, I myself will set my face against them and against their family, and will cut them off from among their people, them and all who follow them in prostituting themselves to Molech.
If any turn to mediums and wizards, prostituting themselves to them, I will set my face against them, and will cut them off from the people. Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy; for I am the Lord your God. Keep my statutes, and observe them; I am the Lord; I sanctify you. All who curse father or mother shall be put to death; having cursed father or mother, their blood is upon them.
If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbour, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death. The man who lies with his father’s wife has uncovered his father’s nakedness; both of them shall be put to death; their blood is upon them. If a man lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall be put to death; they have committed perversion; their blood is upon them. If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them. [Leviticus, chapter 20]"
If this is written by the most intelligent person in the universe, the most divine, if we are going to follow what this author says, we have to KILL half the people in America. We are supposed to KILL everyone who has cursed his father or mother, everyone who has committed adultery, and every homosexual.
This is why more and more youth are leaving religion behind.
In order to see the truth, you need to accept the fact that the bible is a lie.
There Is NO god!
You know what's weird, Prof?
You know what's weird, Prof? You'll probably find yourself to be quite at home here on the NCR.
So looking at your “evidence”
So looking at your “evidence” it seems that humans have an inborn capability to form religious beliefs. Hummm, isn't that a good argument for a Creator that created us, so we can better discern Him? Also, aren’t you creating your “religion” based on your “feelings”? Didn’t we see enough of the “good” that came out of 19th century thinkers like Nitche, self serving beliefs like Nazism, Communism, etc.., that were the root of misery and destruction of millions, billions counting abortion. Their “thoughts” are at the root of more destruction than any natural or man made cause since the beginning of humanity. Aren’t there also older truths that have withstood the test of time? Are you stupid enough that you can’t you read beyond what is in an ancient text? Just compare the Gospels, and your “truths”, which ones will help humanity more?
Why are the haters here here?
Why are the haters here here? Why are you letting this get to you, why don't you just join another church or consecrate your life to God and put your money where your mouth is? It's a fair question.
Uh will the next pope be
Uh will the next pope be Cappa Magna Magma Bully Burke as a supreme example of papal relativism of arrogance, vanity, greed, materialism and criminality corruption. Raymond Burke: Cover-up and hide the crimes guy. Scoot off to Rome and avoid jail in U.S.A. Protected by this all too Secular State VatiCon.
I think Burke getting the
I think Burke getting the papal crown is a little far fetched. But I would be VERY pleased if he did!
Ok John, what do you make of
Ok John, what do you make of Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, the apparent co-author of Caritas in Veritate, recent pronouncement that: "bank ethics and ethical finances does not exist”? I guess that is that good old "holy shamelessness" as only true path to personal “holiness” that kicked in. How about stopping going to fancy meetings, cocktails, and do some real, shoe leather journalism that’s truly “objective”, for a change. Use colleagues like Renner and Berry as examples. Dragons indeed.
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