Welcoming Anglicans not new for this parish

Nov. 23, 2009
Fr. Ernie Davis proclaims the Gospel at an Anglican-use liturgy at St. Therese Little Flower Parish in Kansas City, Mo., Nov. 1. (NCR photo/Joshua J. McElwee)
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KANSAS CITY, MO. -- For St. Therese Little Flower Parish here, news of a new process for welcoming Anglicans into the Catholic church is not some distant idea. It’s something parishioners experience every time they come to church.

The Vatican last month announced the creation of new ecclesiastical structures to absorb disaffected Anglicans wishing to become Catholics. The structures will allow those Anglicans to hold onto their distinctive spiritual practices, including the ordination of married former Anglican clergy as Catholic priests.

Last year, St. Therese, a small parish, welcomed a group of about 20 converts from a local church in the Anglican tradition. The converts left their former church after a falling out on several fronts.

“There were some issues that came up that gave me a definite reason to question whether or not I was attending the right church,” said Cristen Huntz, one of the former Anglicans who converted to Catholicism and is now the parish business manager. “I needed to look for something that provided more longevity and fit with my values and the form of worship that I was accustomed to.”

Huntz, who was treasurer and senior warden at her Anglican church -- an approximate equivalent to the head of a pastoral council in a Catholic parish, said that she found herself wondering if her “son was going to have a place to go to church when he grew up if he chose to follow in my religious tradition.”

Although there were many issues the new parishioners offered for their conversion, a number involved questions of sexuality.

“Openly professing gay people as bishops -- it’s amazing,” said Robert Fliss. “This is the church’s tradition. You don’t ordain women or gay people -- it’s just crazy. A lot of our parish couldn’t tolerate that kind of nonsense.”

The new converts were helped along in the process by the parish’s pastoral administrator, a converted Episcopalian priest who was ordained in the Catholic church in 2002.

“I had really bought it hook, line and sinker that the Episcopal church was part of the Catholic church and hoped that someday it would be recognized,” said Fr. Ernie Davis, speaking of his own conversion to the Catholic church. “I realized that that’s maybe a nice wish and a beautiful hope, but it’s not the reality.”

To accommodate the spiritual desires of those who had come from the Anglican tradition, St. Therese added another Sunday Mass to its schedule. This Mass is celebrated using the approved adaptation of the Anglican Book of Common Prayer known as the Book of Divine Worship.

One of the key differences between this rite and the one normally used is its translation. Where the first eucharistic prayer in the ordinary use calls upon the Holy Spirit with the words, “We come to you, Father, with praise and thanksgiving, through Jesus Christ your Son,” in the Anglican use it is “Most merciful Father, we humbly pray thee, through Jesus Christ, thy Son our Lord.”

Some lifelong Catholics in the parish have concerns about the new liturgy.

“Oh my goodness,” said Fran Totta, a family therapist who attends the Mass before the Anglican-use liturgy. “There’s kneeling for Communion, the priest facing the altar. All the visual triggers are worrisome.”

“For people my age, it’s a little bit disconcerting,” said Totta. “It feels like we’re regressing from the Vatican II model of going with the spirit of the law to the letter of the law. There used to be more heart.” Totta said she’s going to wait and see what happens.

Although questions have been asked about the new liturgy and their traditions, the new members are happy in the parish.

“I’ve never felt as wholeheartedly welcomed as at St. Therese,” said Huntz. “The questions were asked by people who cared very much for their parish and were trying to find ways to incorporate us into that family with the most ease for everybody.”

Fliss, who converted with his wife a year ago, thinks that many more will convert from the Anglican tradition.

“With what the pope is offering, I think we’re going to see this explode,” he said. “People will take advantage of this new process.”

Joshua J. McElwee is NCR editorial intern. His e-mail address is jmcelwee@ncronline.org.

All hierarchs, clergymen, and

All hierarchs, clergymen, and clergywomen should be polygraphed to make sure they are not "gay people".

I sense that after a year of

I sense that after a year of two of being under Vatican rule they will come crawling back to the Anglican Communion.

The Pastoral Provision and

The Pastoral Provision and Anglican Use has been around for 30 years. There are several well-established Anglican Use parishes within the Catholic Church that have built buildings and schools and are now entering their second generation. They haven't crawled back anywhere. All indications are that they are here, permanently, within the Catholic Church. Anglicans in union and communion with Rome will be around for a very, very long time to come.

They are no longer Anglicans

They are no longer Anglicans but converts to the Roman Catholic Church. Anyone that accepts the doctrine of Papal Infallibility, Marian doctrines, transubstantiation and others are NOT Anglicans. They can pretend all they want but they are absolutely NOT Anglican. And I am very much aware of history Bruce, but some will come back when they realized just what they have signed up for. Just thought I'd point that out.

Wow. What vitriol. What

Wow. What vitriol. What intolerance. What is Just Still Shots so afraid of? Why is s/he so bothered by a few Anglicans in the Catholic Church? We should respect each other and each other's religious choices. I am happy to have a few more Anglicans join the Church and am not about to judge their spiritual path. My own spiritual life is quite enough, thank you.

Not bothered at all my

Not bothered at all my friend. May God bless them on their new faith journey. I pray that it is a actual TRUE conversion for them and not just something out of spite. You guys sure do play the "intolerance" card a whole lot. It's getting quite old there Mr.RH, you should try something new. And we are always ready to welcome saddened Roman Catholics into our fold as well, so the feeling is mutual. Some that go to the Roman church will come back, that's a fact and I was just pointing it out. Does THAT bother you?

Ms. Totta states, “Oh my

Ms. Totta states, “Oh my goodness...There’s kneeling for Communion, the priest facing the altar. All the visual triggers are worrisome.”

Yes, it must really be worrisome to see reverence for the Sacred Species and an acknowledgment that one is NOT equal to God and one receives the Son of God in Holy Communion as a gift. When one is in the presence, let alone receives the Body and Blood, of the Almighty, the proper posture is to kneel. It must indeed be worrisome for the priest to face the same way as the people; it must be worrisome for us to recall that God is the focus of the liturgy, not us and not the priest.

“For people my age, it’s a little bit disconcerting,” said Totta. “It feels like we’re regressing from the Vatican II model of going with the spirit of the law to the letter of the law. There used to be more heart.”

Yes, what a shame it would be for the Church to actually DO what we are supposed to do during the Sacred Liturgy. What a shame it would be if Mass were celebrated according to the rubrics! What a shame it would be for the people to have to endure a Mass that is reverent and prayerful!

Ditto the sentiment, though

Ditto the sentiment, though not the snark.

The older I get the less satisfied I get with anything that changed between 1970 & 2000.

The real shame are all of the

The real shame are all of the assumptions that you are making about people whom you do not know.
If you want to kneel while receiving the Eucharist, no one is stopping you. If you want to attend Mass where the priest faces away from the people, you can do that, as well.
However, none of that makes you any more reverent than the people who choose to receive Holy Communion while standing or who attend Mass with the altar at the center.
Whether one experiences Mass as reverent and prayerful depends far less on physical posture than it does on what is in the person's mind and heart.

Clint Green states: "When one

Clint Green states:

"When one is in the presence, let alone receives the Body and Blood, of the Almighty, the proper posture is to kneel."

This is incorrect. The Byzantine Rite liturgy used by many Eastern Catholic Churches has always had the practice of receiving the eucharist STANDING, not kneeling. During the eucharistic prayers, the congregation is STANDING, not kneeling.
There is nothing inherently wrong with the standing posture as it has its own reverence and liturgical meaning.

There is no problem with the western liturgical expression of kneeling, but at least be aware that it is also liturgically acceptable to stand, and it is well founded in the tradition of the Eastern Catholic Churches. Remember that these Churches have retained the tradition and sense of sacred through the craziness of lax liturgical norms in the Latin Rite. Standing is no less holy than kneeling.

Someone alert Fr.

Someone alert Fr. McBrien!!!!!
The priest faces ad orientem in Anglican liturgies!!!!!

Give us all a break, Clint

Give us all a break, Clint Green. If the Eucharist were celebrated according to "Christ's rubrics" it would be around a simple table, minus the Baroque theatre that people such as yourself really love. The sacred liturgy as you see it has been largely "invented" by imperial Roman minded men who are so out of touch with the Christ of the gospels that Jesus would not recognize any of you so called "orthodox Catholics." You and others who think as you do are guilty of abandonment of His simple injunction to "do this in memory of me." You are just too much! Your arrogance and disrespect for others who don't follow your narrow and man made rules tell me you have no idea who Christ is and WHY he came to this Earth. Grow up, Mr. Green. Virtually EVERY post you make to these NCR threads is loaded with vitriol, hatred and disrespect for others. Reverence must begin by respecting others who may have a different point of view as to what it means to be a Catholic Christian. All you do is preach from on high and it's both hypocritical and full of hatred. Respect for the meaning of the Eucharist must begin with LOVE. You seem incapable of anything except defending archaic rules that have no relation to being a follower of Christ. Christ's presence in the Eucharist is both a beautiful mystery and a beautiful gift but it is not the medieval black magic show you try to force on others.

Catholics and Anglicans open

Catholics and Anglicans open their hearts to sharing their bigotry. If Jesus is in this then I renounce him.

Exactly! Who on earth would

Exactly! Who on earth would want to be connected on grounds of being anti-gay and anti-woman? It's VERY shameful and I only hope that it is a TRUE conversion for these people and not just something out of spite. I hope they realize what they have signed up for.

"The converts left their

"The converts left their former church after a falling out on several fronts."

Yup, that sounds just like all that Vatican II jibberish about PERSONAL CONVERSION in the RCIA to me!

I go to a Latin Rite parish

I go to a Latin Rite parish and the priest faces the altar and we have a communion rail and everyone receives kneeling. This practice has nothing to do with whether it is an Anglican Use liturgy or a Latin Rite liturgy.

Also Pope Benedict will only give communion on the tongue and kneeling. what a surprise it will be if he starts changing the rules of receiving communion for everyone.

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