Maryland governor weighs in on contraception coverage

In an interview with CNN on Sunday, Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, who identifies himself as Catholic, weighed in on the recent controversy regarding contraception coverage.

Read the story and watch the interview here.

What do you expect! O'Malley

What do you expect! O'Malley is recalsitrant when it comes to understanding the fundamental truth as to where moral authority comes from . He is an entrenched politician and embraces the same ideology as Nancy Pelosi, Joe Niden, Bart Stupak and others.

Incedentally, why isn't NCR writing a feature article about how Nancy Pelosi basically told the Catholic Church to "shove it" and get on-board with Obamacare! She is on the side of her "fellow Catholics". I'd like to know why she hasn't been excommunicated yet!

Andrew K.

Andrew; a harsh response.

Andrew; a harsh response. Please explain how Nancy Pelosi told the Catholic Church to "shove it" and get on-board with the Affordable Health Care act. And on what basic should she be excommunicated?

John, CNSNews.com has

John,
CNSNews.com has probably the best analysis on Pelosi's statements. She said in an interview she vows to stand with Obama-care and against the Catholic Church. The Bishops letter calls for Catholics to oppose the law and they very clearly explain why it should and must be opposed. Pelosi has taken it upon herself to rally around a segment of "fellow" Catholics, as she calls them, whom she implies will ignore the Bishop's request and stand by the HHS mandates. If that isn't a deliberate act of insubordination I don't know what is! How would you characterize her response?

Andrew K.

Andrew, Thank you for your

Andrew, Thank you for your response. I do strongly support the Affordable Health Care Act, but if Speaker Pelosi does not support a stonger conscience clause, then she and I disagree on this issue. It does not, however, diminish my respect for her. If you are judging her because she is disagreeing with the bishops than please review the disagreements you have with the bishops.

So, as much as I disagree with the Speaker if she supports not expanding the conscience clause, I would not say that it was an offense worthy of excommunication any more than I would say that one who practices birth control is participating is something that is worthy of excommunication.

I will continue to fight for a stonger conscience clause; one that the bishops are requesting, but I will try to stay away from having it escalate into yet another war full of hate and disrespect for those who think differently than I do.

Yours in Christ,

John David

Mercy, Andrew. There are

Mercy, Andrew. There are legions of us who have told the Catholic church to "shove it" when it came to the Affordable Health Care Act. Why give Nancy all the credit?

Hmmmmm. Not sure what side

Hmmmmm. Not sure what side you are on but I'll take it as a stroke against Pelosi and for the Bishops.

Andrew, although you maybe

Andrew, although you maybe right about where moral authority comes from, the base issue here is not moral authority, it is rights.

An individual has a right to freedom of religion, but an institution does not - only people can have beliefs, not buildings. The RCC has always claimed that the "Church" is the people within it.

If that is truly the case, then we have a difficult time making the case that the Church (i.e. the American Catholics) are having their rights abridged - because the sad fact is that the majority of US Catholics (and European Catholics as well) neither agree with nor abide by the rules on contraception.

Tom, I just believe if

Tom,
I just believe if individuals have the right to religious freedom so does the Church which is the "Brethren". These rights are unalienable as written in the Constitution. The founding fathers knew exactly what they were doing when they wrote this into it; for the protection of future generations. If we don't soon decide which moral character best represents our culture, we will most certainly find ourselves confronting an array of outside influences like Sharia Law and other hidious and offensive forms of doctrine. I personally don't want to go there. Do you?

I certainly don't sit in full agreement with the Bishops since I blame them for getting us in this mess in the first place (that's right, THEY GOT US HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE) but in my desire to return to a civil (God fearing) society, we should and we must protect the consciences of decent people (and their Churches) at all cost or we will wither into a society of senseless wards of the state.

If people want contraception, they should pay for it themselves and stop re-defining the Church's duties.

Andrew K.

Well said, Tomsnyder. We

Well said, Tomsnyder.

We are not a Catholic country. We are a country of a constitution that recognizes the "inalienable right of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness..." The rights are individual rights, not rights of institutions.

The HHS regulations do a good job of protecting the individual and the religious groups who have differing beliefs. We have to have a balance so that one person's "religious freedom" is not an imposition of a faith on a another person.

Did I hear in O'Malley's comments that even Italy requires coverage of contraceptives in its health care programs and that the Catholic Church can't exempt itself from it?

I have not had time to

I have not had time to verify, but I have read in numerous credible, online publications that contraceptive coverage is included in insurance of all, regardless of religion, throughout Europe, including Italy. Perhaps not in Ireland? Also in Canada and in 28 of the United States - without any opposition by the bishops of those jurisdictions.

I think O'Malley stands on

I think O'Malley stands on the same ground as the 90%+ of Catholics who use artificial birth control in planning their families. He also stands with the 54% of Catholics who think that civil recognition of gay marriage is important to equality of all citizens.

It is interesting that the bishops can raise all the press but the Catholic people, in their practice, don't really live what is projected as "Catholic". What that means is that Catholics who use or used birth control to plan their families or who believe in equal civil benefits for gay people - need to speak up. There is another voice of Catholicism that needs to be heard.

Another conservative,

Another conservative, republican, catholic who calls names and give no support for any of his comments. I am glad that NCR is independent rather then under the control of the conservative, republican, catholic bishops in this country. You will not find any dissenting articles or comments in your local catholic newspaper. Also the bishop in our diocese, the local cardinal makes sure that they appear in photographs often and they also makes sure that the nuns are dressed in their pre-Vatican II garb.

Forcing catholics to pay for

Forcing catholics to pay for abortion.
The greatest mass murder in history

The seamless garment. Social jsutice.

I like third comment, and by

I like third comment, and by the way who is Joe Niden?

Bart Stupak has it all over that unctuous phony, Rick Sanctimonious.

You got me there! I type too

You got me there! I type too fast! MHA!

Andrew K

Religious Freedom, Supreme

Religious Freedom, Supreme Court Wayback Edition
By Charles P. Pierce, February 7, 2012

Since the topic for today seems to be "religious liberty" as defined by various columnists and cable-news stars, maybe we should fire up the Wayback Machine and take a look at a case that went all the way to the Supreme Court, which decided (in the voice of arch-Papist Antonin Scalia) that the secular law need not bow to someone's religious "conscience," even as regards the performance of the sacred liturgy of that person's faith.

(Imagine, if you will, the outcry if the FDA demanded to test all the sacramental wine in all the rectories in America to make sure it hadn't gone bad.)

On April 17, 1990, the Supreme Court decided the case of Employment Division, Department of Human Resources of Oregon vs. Smith. In that case, two men were fired from their jobs as drug-rehabilitation counselors because, as part of their worship service in the Native American Church, they regularly ingested peyote. (It should be noted here that peyote has been regarded as a sacrament in these religions since long before anyone else came up with bread and wine.) They were also denied unemployment benefits for this same reason. They managed to get a ruling from the Oregon Supreme Court reinstating their benefits, but Oregon appealed the case to Washington and, by a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court reversed the Oregon court's ruling and decided against the two men.

This was clearly a decision in which the court decided that the practice of a religious liturgy, which is certainly more dear to an informed religious conscience than is the accidental collision between the secular law and a discredited doctrine, could be circumscribed because it was contrary to the secular law.

Writing for the majority, Justice Scalia said:

We have never held that an individual's religious beliefs excuse him from compliance with an otherwise valid law prohibiting conduct that the State is free to regulate. On the contrary, the record of more than a century of our free exercise jurisprudence contradicts that proposition.
And, also (quoting Justice Frankfurter):

Conscientious scruples have not, in the course of the long struggle for religious toleration, relieved the individual from obedience to a general law not aimed at the promotion or restriction of religious beliefs.

And, also, too:

Subsequent decisions have consistently held that the right of free exercise does not relieve an individual of the obligation to comply with a "valid and neutral law of general applicability on the ground that the law proscribes (or prescribes) conduct that his religion prescribes (or proscribes)."

And, finally:

It may fairly be said that leaving accommodation to the political process will place at a relative disadvantage those religious practices that are not widely engaged in; but that unavoidable consequence of democratic government must be preferred to a system in which each conscience is a law unto itself or in which judges weigh the social importance of all laws against the centrality of all religious beliefs.

In other words, Native Americans should have had a better lobby.

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/supreme-court-religious-freedom-66...

One thing I haven't heard

One thing I haven't heard mentioned during this entire debate: how much does the co-pay for contraception add to the cost of anybody's health insurance policy?

CT's Gov. Dannel Malloy had

CT's Gov. Dannel Malloy had much to say on Monday morning as a live, in-studio guest on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” show.
The conservative host, Joe Scarborough along with conservative Mika Brzezinski, might not have expected Connecticut Gov. Malloy to be so up on the issue and facts. They were wrong.

Click and paste the following:

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/morning-joe/46279845#46279845

Proud to be from CT

Gov. O'Malley was a loyal

Gov. O'Malley was a loyal supporter of President and Secretary Clinton.
you can bet theyre behind this.

Here's President Obama, the clowns in the White house, they get him to force Catholic Schools to cover abortion.
Brilliant. Just look at Notre Dame, Obama's buddy Jenkins. The right wingers laughing at him, he must be wild.

So the Clintons figure: "Perfect, President Obama, he looks like a goof. But we gotta keep this fiasco in the news cycle"

So they get O'Malley out there, to keep the pot stirred.

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