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Bishop to testify in Congress today on religious liberty
The U.S. bishops are taking their new effort to protect religious freedom to Congress.
Bishop William Lori, head of the Bridgeport, Conn., diocese and chair of the bishops' new ad hoc committee on religious liberty, is set to testify this afternoon before the House of Representatives subcommittee that deals with issues of constitutional rights.
The testimony comes about a month after the bishops announced creation of their new committee Sept. 30.
At the time of the announcement of the committee, Archbishop Timothy Dolan, the bishops' conference president, said that an assault on principles of religious liberty is coming "in an increasing number of federal government programs or policies that would infringe upon the right of conscience of people of faith or otherwise harm the foundational principle of religious liberty."
Lori's testimony, which comes before the judiciary committee's subcommittee on the constitution, is set for 2:30 this afternoon, Eastern Time. Watch NCR for updates on his testimony.
Among the subcommittee's area of oversight are constitutional amendments, constitutional rights and issues relating to federal civil rights. Its chairmen are both Republicans, Congressman Trent Franks from Arizona and Congressman Mike Pence from Indiana.
For the full story on Lori's testimony, see my report here: Bishop to Congress: Religious freedom subject to 'rapid erosion'





Hopefully, someone will ask
Hopefully, someone will ask Bp Lori whether a woman has the constitutional right to approve an emergency abortion to save her life under the Emergency Transfer and Labor Act (EMTALA) rather than being transfered in extremis and on a ventillator to another facility.
A mother cannot approve an
A mother cannot approve an action to terminate the life of her baby to save her own. Neither can she choose to terminate her own life for the sake of her baby. All measures must be taken to preserve her own life, without doing anything to deliberately kill the child. If that requires the transfer "in extremis and on a ventilator to another facility" then that is what must be done. Doctors have to the best to save both and leave the end result to God.
God sent in the doctors who
God sent in the doctors who could save the only person they could save. BTW, do you support the Hyde Amendment? If so, better go and read it again.
...taken directly from
...taken directly from catholic book of indoctrination 101...an excellent read for the mindlessly obedient.
Why do you fools even call
Why do you fools even call yourselves Catholic? I hear there's an American Catholic Church that embraces women priests and homosexuals. Why don't you just leave and join them?
Your testosterone appears to
Your testosterone appears to be offended.....
If your name was Marka, you
If your name was Marka, you would probably see the matter differently.
LIBERTY OR POWER ? .....
LIBERTY OR POWER ? ..... Thanks, Doctor, but don't expect to hear from Mr. Lori any time soon. This effort is not about religious liberty and surely not about protecting women. It is about electing a "no-new-taxes-on-the-wealthy" presidential candidate (read "Republican")that will please the pockets of many wealthy Catholic donors, including some members of Opus Dei, the Knights of Malta, the Leadership Conference, FADICA, LEGATUS, and simlar big Catholic donor groups.
The issues like religious liberty, gay marriage and abortion are just US presidential election year props, rolled out apparently at the direction of the Roman clique, including the pope himself. The actions of Lori and the other US puppet bishops generally appear to be controlled through the new papal nuncio to the US, as directed by the Roman clique puppet master.
For more information on the "religious liberty" facade and the popes's interest in the US elections, please note the NCR comment under the comment heading, "FARCE OR PLOY", accessible by clicking on at
http://ncronline.org/news/politics/bishops-aim-protect-religious-liberty .
For more information on the close relationship between wealthy Catholic donors and the pope's and his US puppet bishops' political initiatives, please note the NCR comment under the comment heading, "WALL STREET, DC and the RCC", accessible by clicking on at
http://ncronline.org/blogs/grace-margins/occupy-wall-street-new-generati... .
I do agree with you. It was a
I do agree with you. It was a stroke of strategic genius for the GOP to use these issues to wrest large industrial cities full of Catholic Democrats, many blue-collar and union, to the Republican Party, voting against most of their and their families' and communities' own interests, and doing this for the sake of "principles" that you have identified as nothing more than mere props. The only interest in ethical principles that the political strategists have is in their ability to switch votes. If someone thinks that there is moral caring behind the campaigning, then they are gullible.
A woman, already the mother
A woman, already the mother of three children, is told by her doctor that her 10 weeks old fetus is dieing and cannot live - the doctors don't know what to do to save the life of the baby. The mother is also in danger of dying if she does not have an abortion.
I could choose. It would be awful but I could choose. I would tell the doctor to perform the abortion.
Sometimes life gives you thorns and nettles to choose between, a necessity of making an awful choice when only awful alternatives are available. It is not in God's hands - God has already ordained what must be for the child. But there are other children and a husband - there are their lives to be nurtured and loved.
A closer look at the bishops'
A closer look at the bishops' position on "religious freedom" reveals that the only 'freedom' of interest to them is for themselves and those who are in agreement with their theological beliefs — specifically in the arena of their perverse obsession with 'pelvic issues'.
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Protecting the God-given free moral agency of others who hold different religious beliefs is not part of their agenda (note HR358 and S877 among numerous others both federal and state). In fact, the USCCB has lobbied vigorously to trample the moral agency of others via state and federal legislation, specifically regarding reproduction (contraception, abortion), limiting statutes related to sexual assault of minors (to protect themselves and their financial assets), and against civil law protections/civil unions for gays and lesbians. They have thrown their significant money and influence behind the most extreme of rightwing political candidates, and bedded-down politically with the most extreme of Protestant factions (Reconstructionists, et al.) to achieve their goals. It is a blatant attempt to codify RC canon law into U.S. secular law in our pluralistic, non-theocratic nation.
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The USCCB interest in "religious freedom" is disingenuous on the face of it. During the 19th century (post-18th century French Revolution 1789–1799) the Vatican lost its formidable secular power and geographical territory in Europe. The plan in process over the past three decades has been to merge itself to one political party and finally regain that secular power via the government of the United States. It's no accident that our highest court (SCOTUS) is stacked with neocon ultra-conservative Catholics who have little regard for separation of church and state — the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment be damned. Several bishop-backed pieces of personally and medically intrusive state legislation related to the pelvic issues have already been ruled 'unconstitutional'— in whole or in part — by lower-level federal judges. The make-up of the courts does matter as a protection for everyone's freedom, not just that of Catholic bishops.
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Historically, when the Vatican had significant secular power, either directly or via alliances with secular government and politicians, it used that power to brutally impose its will on everyone with NO regard for religious freedom. That tiger has not changed its stripes — the primary loyalty of the members of the USCCB is vowed only to Rome. Be very wary of bishops cozied-up to secular politicians pleading for their "religious freedom". It's a Trojan horse full of little Olmsted's waiting to wield their additional secular powers over Catholics and non-Catholics alike by any possible means.
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Good points. I don't want to
Good points. I don't want to have Catholicism - as the bishops and Rome see it - codified into U.S. law. But that is what the hierarchy is trying to do with their claim of "religious freedom" to deny health insurance coverage for contraceptives and sterilizations. They can and should teach what the Catholic Church believes but they should not be able to use the government to impose their ideas on Catholics and non-Catholics alike. This is dangerous stuff and in opposition to individual freedom and rights of conscience.
Very good comment Aileen USA,
Very good comment Aileen USA, I agree with you about what the Vatican, curia, and US Bishops are up too. It seems that the Pope wants the Catholic church to get involved in our government by getting the congress to pass laws that will force the church's positions on all people in this country. I think that what they really want is to get back to the "good old days," when the Church and State were joined at the hips.You last paragraph is especially important.
Bishop Lori forbade
Bishop Lori forbade contributing Catholics parishioners who were VOTF members from meeting in their church. so much for fascist Catholic religious liberty.
Will, or did, Bishop Lori
Will, or did, Bishop Lori speak also for those of us who are opposed to war and the death penalty to make provision for us to not have to pay taxes to support those two evil activities?
Misguided priorities in era
Misguided priorities in era of austerity. With all the rising poverty across the US, this is the best they can do? This is political deflection through omission towards the poor. They are worried about their narrow circle to relegate care for the poor to farther down the list.
Will Catholic sponsored
Will Catholic sponsored health and social services programs become incrasingly restricted to those in the public who are able to agree with the guiding faith principles and conditions of catholic social and health services?
It is unclear to me how the Catholic Church, in such instances as gay adoption and contraception, can use tax payer money to limit services to those who are able to ascribe to the church's moral position on these issues.
Is it possible that the Catholic church will need to raise its own funds and not accept USG money so that the Church can provide social services according to its own principles?
I am not sure of the legal and moral precedents pertaining to the above and I am looking for clarity.
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