Political Catholicism vs. Christ’s Catholicism

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Internecine: ways of disagreeing which are destructive to all sides.

In our time, when it too often has come down to our listening hard, but not being able to tell some priests from most politicians -- as they too often sound exactly alike, choosing the same rhetorical references and processes to defeat or demand a cause ... we, in our beliefs, our striving to hold life sacred, have to go a different way.

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We cannot agree to hunt down other souls, call them names no matter how clever we imagine ourselves to be. We cannot call them out as unworthy of the bread of Life. We have to try to keep following “the Source of the source” purposely ... even when it drops below ground where we cannot easily see it for a time.

We cannot decide how to live based on personal or ecclesiastical pique or from having our sense of power inflated by special interest groups. We cannot agree to harm souls who are here on earth to learn, who are here on earth to learn to return to the Source. We cannot abide they ought be left stranded while they are in the midst of their God-known learnings.

Most of all, though we can say what is not yet right in an otherworldly sense, we cannot condemn any entire person, for we have been told time and again, and in jagged lightning bolts and thunder cracks for humans seem to so easily forget, that judgment of other souls in reserved for One who is not us.

One holy story in particular reminds us where to stand, how not to collapse and surrender the soul’s ground, but rather stand strong in the clear-cut guiding principal ...

That guidance is a way of thinking, a basic attitude we go to sleep with and awaken with, a way of life for which much bloodshed was given that we might have Love instead the old ways of blood libel and blood sacrifice when people disagree with one another ...

or when some decide who is “sinful” ... without ever being able to purely know that so-called “sinner”s” troth with God or their learning relationship to the Source ... but deciding anyway, that whomsoever one finds offending, must in some way, be shunned, exiled, done away with.

Listen ...

The Lone Man Stands Against The Priest-Thugs

Imagine priests in dusty black robes, turbans tied high to look like crowns. They are not so unlike others who live in a rocky, dusty desert. Imagine their dirty feet, soiled leggings, their fingernails circled black with grime. Imagine flecks of food still hanging in their beards. Imagine a gang of portly men, the best fed in town, who only have one interest in life: exiling and killing those who do not conform to their ways. Not to scriptural ways, but to their own man-made tribal ways which they attempt to buoy by quoting ancient scripture.

Now imagine they have dragged a woman screaming from her home. She is bleeding from road rash by being dragged. They have torn her hair and her clothes so she is half naked ... all the more reason for this gang of thugs to be enraged; how dare she show her sinful body like that. Whore, she is nothing but a whore.

They have large rocks to stone her to death. This means they will crash heavy stones down on her face, her breasts, her chest cavity, her genitals, until she bleeds to death internally or dies from a crushed skull. Her kidneys will be torn. Her liver lacerated, her spleen bleeding, the periosteum, that dense layer of vascular connective tissue enveloping the bones, will be utterly destroyed by the blows.

They will not cease breaking her bones, breaking open her skull until they see gray matter flying. Skulls when broken make a loud popping noise, similar to a ball being hit with a bat. The thugs will not stop until they hear that sound, until they know this one deemed a sinner by the testimony of men, can never recover, until she is dispatched from this world by the abject violence of the thugs” hands.

But then imagine a man, a simple man, all by himself, in the midst of his teaching in the temple. Imagine him being bellowed at by the thugs ...

“Hey you. Teacher! What do you have to say for yourself you fool who preaches love everywhere? The rules say we kill her. Are you going to tell us to go against the rules?”

The lone man who has already seen these thugs unleash their murders on other women and men on other days, offers silence to their howling demands that he answer.

The thugs are insulted. They pull back for a moment, enraged any man would dare to think their question not worthy of an immediate yes, that exiling, starving, and murdering another human being ... is just fine.

But the lone man stands his ground. Instead of excoriating the thugs, the man lifts his finger.

The thugs laugh! “Ah ha ha ha! Look he thinks he will chastise us with his finger.”

But, the man does not use his hand as a weapon, nor to point in accusation. Instead he bends over the earth, his robes dragging on the ground ... and there he begins to draw in the soft dirt.

The thugs hop and hoot and harass the man, scorning him for being a weakling. They are angry because he will not agree with them, refuses to answer their trumped up “litmus test.” “Well,” taunt the thugs, “didn”t Moses in the Law handed down from Yahweh, command us that a whore should be stoned til her guts are smashed, til she bleeds to death?”

Quietly, but with fire in his eyes, the lone man draws himself up to his fullest height, and says, “If you are without sin yourself, go ahead, smash the first stone down to break her bones.”

The thugs are enraged by his answer all the more. How dare this inferior man question their time-honored hunting of human beings they deem doing wrong? How dare this nothing of a man question their tribal murderings. How dare anyone interrupt their right as men handed down from other men, and handed down from the men before them? How dare anyone interfere with their righteous rage, their carrying out their duties as men, their clear-cut tribal exhortation to murder, exile, harm whomsoever violates tribal rules ... made by men?!

But the lone man was not afraid. In what has long been known as a gesture of courage: He literally turns his back to the thugs, showing them he did not even fear they would jump him from behind.

Instead, yet again the lone man bent over the earth and wrote with his finger in the dust.

Suddenly, the oldest of the thugs picked up the hems of his robes and hastily left the temple, soon followed by the younger priests, til all those who believed in ritually prescribed harm to living human beings had hurriedly retreated.

Left in the circle of the temple with dust filtering down through the dim light, were the lone man and the poor ragged woman. Too, they were surrounded by souls with their hearts in their throats ... from having witnessed not only a horribly tense stand-off with the very thugs they had long feared, but also from seeing and hearing this heroic and deep teaching ... and beholding this teacher ... this teacher who did not rise to fight, nor to flee, nor to flay, to do no harm, even to thugs.

But rather this rebbe, this teacher stood in His own desert radiance in order to teach, most especially to tend to the souls, hearts, and spirits of others. Without war. Without exiling. Without trumpeting that it was his duty. Without starving out. Without breaking bones. Without calling on others to do spiritual or physical harm to living human beings who are finding their ways in this world, and in the other world as well.

The lone man looks into the hurt woman’s eyes and asks, “Can you be condemned by mere men, really? Have they truly power to condemn you?”

The woman, trying to cover her body, realizes, No, thugs do not have Godly power to condemn her other than in their unexamined tribal ways.

The lone man says to her then, “I inflict no loss of life or loss of soul on you. I do not condemn you. Go back to your homeplace in peace. You future work is not to lose sight of G-d.”

In his own gentle way, the lone man teaches her what he has just taught the thugs, but in a different way: do not be subsumed by affairs of culture or human appetites, do not be separate from the Source, rather be guided by It.

Then lone man turns to the group of souls who are his students, summarizing why this confrontation did not come to warring, but rather to protection of those called out as unworthy. He teaches in that moment, in two sentences about the One who really knows what’s what, a gift not given to human beings.

Thus, the Lone man says: I am the Light of the World: those who follow me shall never be in the dark.

Lone man taught a third way. Not for this side, not for that side. But for Love. For Mercy. Somehow, someway, finding a way through that does not harm, but is a true teaching of holiness ... and most of all not by railing or condemning, but by living this: Living mercy. Living kindness. Living forgiveness. Living Love.

The Third Way Through: the Soul’s Way

In later passages, the old priests continue to abrade Christ”s pronouncements, taking them literally, instead of understanding Christ is using story and symbolism to teach deeper truths, ones that cannot be said in prose alone, that can never be stated in political rhetoric, but always goes back to the language of mercy and love.

No easy thing, learning those two. There have been days for all of us when we wanted to beg God to please let so and so just wither on the stick and never walk the earth again. But, especially in religious in-fighting, we”ve been given the third way through, the worthy bar to strive toward daily.

Each of us will decide and find his or her own way through internecine fighting. I’d just humbly suggest that the bar be set at more than 75% demonstrable mercy and love each day rather than black condemnation and grandstanding and all the other pitiful actions the worldly ego seems to think of first in its attempts to influence the secular world to its way of thinking.

Christ”s lesson is in part: human mind forgets its true origin daily, gets heated up about the worldly, takes up worldly ideas and makes them the most important over the soul”s knowing, forgets the only bloodline is not made of rules made by men, but those given by the Source.

An Unanswered Question: What Was the Lone Man Writing in the Dirt?
The story of the lone teacher in the temple accosted by thugs and the poor woman they”d hauled out in public and accused of adultery does not end where it ends ...

In certain translations, the thug-priests are said to have become “conscience pricked.” It was decades before I learned the lost part of this scriptural story (Book of John 8:1-12).

When it finally came, it arrived from Monsignor Jones, a scholarly, religious priest whom we were honored to have Mass with/by every Sunday for a long time. After Mass, Monsignor would gather us around and teach us a continuation of the Gospel that day, inviting us to ask questions, in what I now realize was the manner of the ancient rebbes. One Sunday, the story of the woman to be stoned was the topic.

“But Father,” we asked, “what made the thugs seem to at least vaguely yet suddenly remember they had souls, that they had separated from God via their strong, but misled desires to “purify” their tribal religious group?”

Father asked us if we remembered that the Master was writing on the ground? What do you think he was writing?

We didn”t know. It certainly didn”t seem like it would be doodling, or just trying to gain time to think. That”d be too human only.

Monsignor said, yes, it was something mysterious to humans, something of the Divine.

The priests ran away not because they suddenly became wise men, but because Jesus was writing on the ground a kind of diary, listing the exact sins of each priest during that priest’s lifetime including that very day.

Christ knew their minds and hearts. He knew their sins, the time of day, the place, the parties concerned, specifically ... down to tiniest details. What he was writing in the dust? A complete account of all the priests” failures to be faithful to God rather than being so intent on deploying the ideas of men in the worldly world.

Father Jones went on to say that the oldest priests ran away first because they had sinned most ... that they”d had more years to sin, of course. He laughed, not in meanness, but in simple recognition of all our frailties here on earth. That”s true, isn”t it? Aren”t there days when though we know we didn”t invent sin, the older we become, we worry we might have somehow invented a few new sins along the way?

When the priests saw Christ knew their sins exactly, they were filled with fear he would expose them publicly. Although diving for cover is what innocent people do too-- often, sunshine on a thug”s hidden motives and secret meetings, tends to make them dive for cover for an entirely different reason.

So, they literally ran away. Not because they were chastened exactly, but because they did not want others to realize they were hypocrites, putting out false tests for purity, punishing others while being “sinners of substance” themselves. Their ways of conducting themselves under the guise of religiosity, was considered an ultimate abomination toward God who forgives all. At the drop of a hat. At any moment of heartfelt contrition ... a contrition that cannot be mind-read by mere human beings.

When in our times we cannot always tell the difference any longer between some priests and most politicians, we have to find our ways back to this temple, this exact place where the lone man is still teaching this specific teaching.

It is not easy. It is hard not to want to exile the exilers. It is hard not to want to uncaringly punish the punishers. But, Christ did not punish. By how he lived, how he taught, he made a clear bright line about the third way, a way that follows rules given so simply, so straightforwardly by the Source.

Push back against whatsoever pushes to cripple and redefine Christ’s teaching about what is holy and humble. Speak out about what must return to the care of the soul instead of being taken over by the blind judgments of the ego. Notice in your own best soulful way. Stand up against excesses that degrade the spirits of self and others.

In all these and more, we strive to do two difficult things: to moderate these matters within ourselves, as well as to mediate these in matters outside ourselves. In the main, to stand in the temple with the lone teacher.

To love, to be Catholic does not mean to be a patsy, a do-nothing, say-nothing, political party-line follower. Neither does it mean to become a screamer and bellower like the thugs. I have to smile a bit as some current priests who are younger -- or have not been paying attention -- have recently exhorted others to stand up and proclaim their Catholicism publicly, when we old believers have been doing exactly that -- and often without any armor whatsoever -- and no publicity -- for more than eighty years.

But it is clear, to follow the lone teacher does not mean to try to kill or cut off other souls. It means to be a follower of Christ. Not a follower of Peter, Paul, Fred or Max. Instead: Ichthys ... in ancient times, as now, still the secret sign of a Christian when living in a secular over culture. Ichthys: The pre-eminent Mind Reader.

It is not easy to stand and withstand the day and all it can bring sometimes, but I speak directly into your sacred heart ... it is superlatively easy to know where to stand:

Whereas the history of hunting down who is imagined as pure and who is imagined as impure ... tends to reveal over and over that a politicized religion will sink ever more into a secular cesspool with little effect other than further dichotomizing souls ... there is that third place to stand. Let us take that stand ... in that place.

And, let us pray:

No matter what we have to say, no matter how clear, incisive, revealing, assertive, charging, loving, supportive or observing ... let us bend to work at trying to stand in the temple with the lone Teacher protecting the ragged woman ... and to say our piece from there ...

for very soon, a different set of thugs will come for our lone Teacher and kill Him. We have to ready ourselves to be the first in the garden to see Him again, to insist on His presence, even to ones like literal Thomas, who faltered there for a minute til he could see it All for himself. Even one as close as Thomas, was still learning, as are we all.

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“Political Catholicism vs. Christ”s Catholicism: Story of The Mind Reader,” by Dr. C.P. Estés, ©2009, All Rights Reserved. Permissions: Projectscreener@aol.com

Once again, to the head and

Once again, to the head and heart. Thank you.

I read recently of the need for "sacred space" where peace overwhelmes opinion, judgment; where empathy trumps being right, or founded upon authority; where a higher principle of what it is best in being human, raised to "sacredness" by Christ, says that sacred space is taught by church, yes and maybe even given a place, but it starts and survives in the heart and the soul of daily live.

Listen, as Christ listens; write in the sand, the sand that is the "anam cara" the soul friend that impels the speaker to search his or her own soul for its rightiousness or not and if not, to go away as unworthy or to repent and stay and learn, even teach.

Its all well and good that we

Its all well and good that we seek "sacred spaces", "sacred moments" and so forth. So long as we do not neglect so great a salvation that we have in Jesus Christ who did not do His own will but that of His Father in heaven. THERE IS NO TEACHING OR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT SUPERCEDES OUR FAITH IN THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS CHRIST WHO IS THE PERFECT EXPRESSION OF THE FATHER'S LOVE. GOD CAN GIVE NO MORE. WHICH IS WHY WE SAY IN THE NICENE CREDO: "...WE BELIEVE IN ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH. WE ACKNOWLEDGE ONE BAPTISM FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS. WE LOOK FOR THE RESSURRECTION OF THE DEAD, AND THE LIFE OF THE WORLD TO COME. AMEN." Grace and peace with prayers always in Christ...

I think that its also

I think that its also important to understand what "obedience" means in the Catholic context. It doesn’t mean subservience; the word obedience means to listen deeply. Check out Bishop Gumbleton's peace pulpit column here in the NCR located at: http://ncronline.org/blogs/peace-pulpit/fifth-sunday-lent

Grace and peace with prayers always...

Go on, keep shouting.

Go on, keep shouting. Obviously,strident shouting in "sacred space" only hurts the soul as it damages ears.

This quoting of scripture to divide where it is meant to bring us together is not Christian or Catholic, it only does additional harm to self, others, dialogue, reconciliation, etc. "Christ who did not His own will but that of His Father in heaven", you write. Jesus was/is God, One with the Father. The mystery of the trinity gets twisted to suit the intent. The challenge is how we come together around the truth not to use your bit or my bit as a rhetorical weapon of destruction.

In my human understanding, Jesus looked within Himself as a human to find the human strength to do what He was committed to do as Son(for the father) and Savior(for us). The "holy cards" may show Jesus looking up the the sky to portray the otherness of the Father, but He was equally within and one with Jesus.

You seem to ignore the belief that God made us in His image and likeness, not too shabby in spite of "original sin".

Say what?

Say what?

He said you were shouting.

He said you were shouting.

Using CAPS LOCK is shouting.

Using CAPS LOCK is shouting.

This advocacy of the third

This advocacy of the third way is beyond the win/loose options & reminds me of 2 parables in Luke 18&14, those called to the feast and the widow and the judge.

I think the reason we forget our origins is because we are in love with our power to exclude and to divide ‘us' and ‘them’. ‘Them’ are the ones who seek a different reality for themselves, who might not believe exactly as we believe, think as we think and in the end, may choose to live a life that emphasizes different aims than those to which we aspire.

Having drawn the line between 'us' and 'them' we choose to believe that any reasonable person would desire to choose as we have chosen. And those who do not, those who seek a different experience are simple, stupid, naive, misled, liberal leaning, or evil.

In order to preserve a sense of our own specialness, we separate ourselves from ‘them’ by creating fences, laws, traditions and even larger weapons to defend ‘us’ from ‘them’. In order to preserve our self, our families, our way of life, our nation, we know that we must be ready to defend, ready to fight and kill at a moments notice.

Further we believe a blessed life is not lived out by the weak, the humble, the meek; but only by those who have the cajones to weild the power of death, whether physical, economic or politcal. We have bought into the idea that we must protect our 'way' by every means possible, even if it means killing 'them' to do it.

By defending our 'God given right to kill them’ we refuse the call to love, and we become the antithesis of Christ.

From the Sufi poet, Rumi;

From the Sufi poet, Rumi; "Somewhere outside all notions of right and wrong, there is a field. Won't you join me there?"

What an interesting thought,

What an interesting thought, "those who have the cajones to weild the power of death". Maybe that's why Jesus was crucified, He demonstrated far more 'cajones' by rejecting the power of death in favor of the Source of the Power of Love. The reality is there is far more power in life than there is in death because there is no death with out life. Death is dependent and there fore the weaker.

I've always felt men were the weaker sex precisely because they substituted weilding death in place of their inability to give life. Jesus was certainly trying to show men they could give abundant life through the power of love. He even fed five thousand to prove it, and raised Lazarus from death. Why is this so difficult to understand, much less follow?

"inability to give life" -

"inability to give life" - huh? I didn't need to take mammalian physiology to understand binary sexual reproduction.

Mark, the male contribution

Mark, the male contribution to procreation, while necessary, is hardly an equal story. This is why I personally think abortion has become such a big deal. It's women usurping the historical male perogative over life and death by asserting their own choice about their own pregnancies.

In any event, there was no binary sexual reproduction, as we understand it, in the Incarnation of Jesus. Maybe there's a good reason for the fact Jesus chose to become human without the aid of the male half of the mammalian equation.

One other point, in human embryological development, we all start out female. Males undergo an adaptive process around the sixth or seventh week of gestation. This puts them behind the embryological development curve and is why male premies have higher death rates. Lungs take a back seat to genitalia formation. Essentially Genesis is backwards and Thomas Aquinas was way wrong. Females are not misbegotten males, males are adapted females.

This seems to show that the creative principle is feminine, not masculine and that the hen came before the egg.

Thank you, Anon. This is

Thank you, Anon. This is quite beautiful and profound.

What a beautiful (as usual),

What a beautiful (as usual), comforting, reassuring article. Yes, that was exactly what Jesus was writing in the sand. It's a wonder that I've never heard any priest make that clear.

dear Dr. E. . .This message

dear Dr. E. . .This message is a reminder that i need, in our current world it is oft easy to point the finger and divide "the rights" from "the wrongs". . .

. . . I spent two years in seminary. . .and one of the most impactful lessons learned while there was similar to this story. . .

I was in a pastoral care class and a fellow seminarian gave a presentation of his counseling a couple considering divorce. . . In "my opinion" the guy presenting was acting like a damnation-fire breathing-Bible thumping insensitive jerk. . . When it was time for class discussion, i gave feedback for intervention and also railed against his insensitivity and fundamentalism. . .I threw the stones. . .

The class dismissed and the professor asked me to wait for a minute. He started out by saying, he aligned and appreciated my insight about the couple and the assessment of pastoral care for the couple. Then he said," but what i want you to think about is intolerance is intolerance and one can be intolerant of intolerance." As soon as he said it i was like the ones that dropped the stones and left first like these you write you write about here. . .

as i read this story i remembered. . . there go i. . .there go i. . .

I embarrassed myself to the place where it left an imprinted question on my fore brain. . ." Can i stand in the circle with tolerance that includes non-tolerance also?". . .

I fail too often. . .

I can certainly relate to

I can certainly relate to your comment. Too often I have to delete my comment because I find myself being too intolerant.

What a gift to have the

What a gift to have the courage to speak the truth. This type of conversation is necessary to the understanding of Christ's teachings. I enjoy your articles and the responses to them. Thanks for providing this forum!

VENERATION OF LOVE. To

VENERATION OF LOVE. To solicit the good will of. The root of veneration is Venus, the most brilliant planet in the solar system. The Italian Goddess of gardens and spring.
But what about the endemic corruption? The contamination? Environmental BROWNFIELDS comes to mind. The process of cleaning up contaminated sites is the following: Brownfield identification, clean up, and redevelopment.
Abandoned contaminated industrial sites can facilitate sustainable growth. Sustainable industry, for example, Solar PV silicon industry, can clean up, and use the strategic location and infrastructure. A feasible investment for an ideal location where the railroad line already arrives, where the source of hydro-power is already present, where old buildings can be re-cooperated, rather than building new. But with new awareness, the toxins of the new industrial process can be captured and contained in a closed cycle of toxic waste. And the long term output, the production of solar power, is reverence for our place of birth and promise to carry us gently into the future. VENERATION OF LOVE.

Huh? Are you sure you are in

Huh? Are you sure you are in the right forum? I don't understand how your comment relates to the subject at hand. Could you explain it better?

To

To crackedearthenvessel,
Thank you for your asking me to clarify, I can see how this appears in left field. The first part, playing around with words about Love… because I just don’t get how Love is not always the basis of church doctrine. It makes my head spin. So I just enjoyed staying with words of Love and Love of Love. Brownfields is an image that came. I think in development doctrine and in religious doctrine a similar phenomena can happen… development takes a course in which the green land turns brown because we forget about Love, and the result is toxic pollution that insults nature and is no good, at all, for the human body or spirit. But the baby is not to be thrown out with the bathwater, Clarissa really brings that message HOME. Having the vision and courage to identify the Brownfields of Catholicism (Political Catholicism), doing what needs to be done to clean them up, and live the roots (Christ’s Catholicism) seems to me the obvious path. Being afraid to talk about Brownfields, or talking about whether or not they exist cannot go on forever. Many Brownfield sites are simply abandoned, and all Brownfield sites have been so insulted by bad doctrine that it is very tricky to detox them. Who has the creative vision to reclaim them and love them back to green, that is a doctrine of love and life.

Thank you for the life, hope

Thank you for the life, hope and so much to think about in this letter. It is so hard not to get angry and scream in frustration these days when the message from the "screamers" is "go away, we don't want your kind here in OUR church!"

It is really a shame that you

It is really a shame that you do not see the true message of the Church. Each of us is called to chastity according to our state of life. Some of us have the cross to bear of perpetual celibacy, whether homosexual, priest, or never-married person or even a person married to someone ill in mind or body.

The Church does not reject the person but the sin. Sin is the enemy and the tool of the Enemy who wants your soul for himself in Hell. Those who love their sin more than they love Jesus Christ Who gave His life to open the gates of Heaven for each of us will never enter those gates, but those who offer up their struggle and continually strive against it, resuming the struggle after falling, they will be welcome, no matter what their cross in life.

This is the message of the Church, of Christ's Passion which we remember this week. Accept it and live forever.

You know what, the Church

You know what, the Church does not reject either the sinner or the sin. It forgives the sinner. It forgives sins, just like Jesus did. Furthermore, with Jesus's forgiveness, came the words "sin no more". Perhaps you read this as an admonition to work harder at being perfect, but I read this as Jesus bestowing upon those he has forgiven a certain resistance to temptation.

It is impossible to live a productive life without occasionally finding oneself in a situation in which sinning is inevitable, especially when sins are recognized as being all those many things the Catholic Catechism lays out in such detail. Rather than using that as a blueprint for how exactly to behave in every situation, you might view it as a way to gain a greater appreciation of how forgiving God really is.

Maybe it could serve as a model for how forgiving we are to be of one another. It really is not our job to do what even God does not do, which is to prevent people from committing sins.

First, I did not say that the

First, I did not say that the Church rejects the sinner. Secondly, the Church does reject sin. "Love the sinner, and hate the sin," remember that? What do you think hating the sin is? It is rejection of sin. We are each called to reject sin in ourselves. Forgiveness of sin does not mean lake of rejection of sin; it means accepting sin for what it is and offering a solution for it.

It is true that with the sacrament of Confession which Christ instituted for forgiveness also gives special graces to help us to resist sin, but wouldn't the giving of resistance to sin indicate a rejection of sin? It is both an aid to rejecting sin, **and** an admonition for us to avoid sin.

The idea that it "is impossible to live a productive life without occasionally finding oneself in a situation in which sinning is inevitable," is totally contrary to everything we know. First of all, sin is *not* "inevitable." If it were inevitable, it would not be sin because it would be beyond our power to choose. It s inevitable, for example, that I will grow old--there is nothing I can do about that. But growing old is not a sin. Sin involved choice. When people choose to do the wrong thing, they sin.

The reason the CCC lays out so many things in detail which are sinful is that then we will not commit what is objectively a sin out of ignorance. Remember that Christ told the Apostles to go out and teach all nations. Part of that instruction will naturally be how to avoid sin, and avoidance of sin includes knowing which acts constitute sin.

One of the sins the Church has always taught is sinful is the sin of presumption, which is what you are suggesting when you say that we should not use the information about sin to avoid committing those sinful acts, but instead merely to consider God's great mercy? You seem to forget that God's infinite mercy is tempered by an equally infinite *justice,* which can see into our hearts and see the presumption which occurs when we sin based on God's mercy.

Yes, Christ also said that vengeance is His... but the Church also teaches that we are to instruct the ignorant and to admonish the sinner. It is not the task of laypeople to prevent others from committing sins, but what of those who could have instructed and did not? Or admonished but did not? Do you think God in His infinite justice will not lay some of the blame upon their shoulders, had their timely words have been able to prevent the commission of that sin?

Dear Philothea, Your version

Dear Philothea,

Your version of the "church's teachings" agrees with my memory of the religious/clerics of my youth in the 1950s & 60s. I reject your myopic focus first on defining sin and the routing it out.

Today I try to live making better decisions than I did yesterday. I am a computer programmer. I teach that "if you're not making mistakes then you're not working hard enough." My personal definition of a good computer person is someone that has made lots of mistakes and remembers them.

Life is not about focusing on my last mistake (read SIN) but instead focusing on doing the next right thing, whatever it is.

God, help me
to see myself as you see me,
to love myself as you love me, and
to forgive myself as you forgive me.

Try saying that 53 times using your beads.

May the peace of Our Lord, which surpasses all understanding, be with you ...
RJ

It says something important

It says something important about the church today that so many people, hearing this story, did not hear what Christ was writing. So many things that I have knows from as way back as chilhood seems not to be in the minds of modern Catholics. Maybe that is the reason we have so many Catholics leaving the church for fundamental groups. I really believe too many in the church really haven't a clue as to what is doctrine, dogma, and what is not.

God bless Dr. Estés, but that

God bless Dr. Estés, but that "Dr." can't stand for medicine (sorry, Jungian psychology doesn't count) or remotely legible writing. I get the whole mythopoetic, magical realism thing, but this leader is left with the impression "writing - let there be less."

So why clothe this in a

So why clothe this in a blessing? Let there be truth.

I think we need to be clear

I think we need to be clear that is there is no "Catholicism of Jesus". Jesus was not a Catholic. Jesus was an observant Jew. Christians and Jews need to approach the New Testament from the standpoint that Jesus was a Jew and that everything he said and did was informed and influenced by his Judaism. Practically everything Jesus said is based in Jewish Scripture. As Passover begins tonights, we need to remember that the "Lst Supper" was not a Roman Catholic Mass, but the Jewish Seder--the rememberance of the passing from slavery to freedom.

Jesus said nothing that indicates that his followers were to stop being Jewish. If Catholics want to be true to the religious tradition of Jesus, they need to embrace Judaism.

dear Mark Andrews. . .OUCH!.

dear Mark Andrews. . .OUCH!. . .just wanted to let you know that stone bounced off dear Dr. E. and struck me 600 miles away. . .OUCH!. . .It is not true that " sticks and stones can break the bones, but words can never harm." Mean unkind words also hurt. . . Do you know that?. . . .Just curious what kind of leader are you?. . .

I enjoyed once again, your

I enjoyed once again, your storytelling. I've never heard of the 33 stations but oh, can I understand how your family knows them to mean. This is good for meditating on more than just this week.

Dear Mark Andrews Try finding

Dear Mark Andrews

Try finding her stuff translated to English. They say its pretty good.

from the conclusion of my

from the conclusion of my story: The Androgenous Glance 6/07(700 words)
"Where are the accusers?" It was in the glance exchanged that both knew then the necessary absolution from what either may or may not have ever intended. They turned from each other away, not seeing how Ruah, the wind, erased all footprints and writing upon the ground. A virgin soil waited once again for Gabriel.
At home, John would be waiting. With this thought Jeshua's heart quickened, as did his step. Soon they would be together at the crossroads of humanity, among family who dared to stand with them in truth, not running away.
"Abba, forgive us all, for we know not what we do," he whispered as he hurried toward further discovery of his destiny.

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