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American Catholic demographics and the future of ministry
Earlier this week I was in Chicago to keynote the annual conference of the National Association of Church Personnel Administrators, which is composed of folks struggling to help the church integrate contemporary best practices in human resources and business management. It’s largely unheralded work, but critical if the Catholic church is to avoid the administrative meltdowns that too often mar its public image and impair its moral authority.
I was asked to talk about American Catholic demographics and what they suggest about the future of ministry. Though none of what I had to say constitutes news, sometimes it’s useful to step back and focus on the forest rather than its individual trees.
Journalists are, of course, famous for bringing bad news. As the old joke goes, the nightly news is the program where they begin by saying “good evening,” and then proceed to explain why it’s really not. That’s not my intent here. The trends outlined below suggest challenges and headaches aplenty, but they’re also rich with potential for creative new energies in the American church, depending on how they play out.
The Ministers
First, the ministers of the future in America will be increasingly global. Already, one-sixth of the roughly 40,000 priests serving in the United States are from abroad, and the American church adds about 300 new international priests every year. Increasingly, the pastoral work of the church in this country is dependent upon these foreign priests. An official of the Chicago archdiocese, for example, said during the NACPA conference that there would be no priests doing sacramental ministry in Catholic hospitals in Chicago were it not for the “externs,” meaning priests from abroad on temporary assignment. The same basic trend holds in religious orders, in graduate programs of theology, and in various lay ministries in the church -- a greater share of Catholics doing ministry in America will be from abroad, reflecting the vitality of the faith in places such as sub-Saharan Africa and southeast Asia.
Second, future ministers will be increasingly laity. At present, there are slightly more than 40,000 priests in the United States and 31,000 “lay ecclesial ministers,” meaning laity working full-time or part-time for the church performing ministries once done by priests or religious: music ministry, liturgy, CCD, RCIA, and so on. At the moment, there are 5,500 seminarians in America but an estimated 18,000 women and men preparing to be lay ecclesial ministers, so by 2020 or so the corps of professional lay ministers will exceed the number of priests. The growth in lay ecclesial ministry is the “tip of the spear,” symbolizing a broader expansion of lay roles that includes the growth of new movements, the expansion of lay volunteer and missionary programs, the emergence of parish and diocesan councils and review boards, and the informal phenomenon of “guerilla evangelists” -- laity not waiting for any formal invitation or permission, but simply deciding to plant the flag for the faith in some sphere of life. This is a critically important transition, because if the church does not come to see laity as the primary front-line carriers of much of its ministry, it will be locked in an “arms race” it is destined to lose. Under any conceivable future scenario, Catholicism will not turn out enough priests to compete on a level playing field with, say, Pentecostal ministers, especially in Latino/a communities, or for that matter with the apostles of secularism in 21st century America.
Third, the ministers of the Catholic future will be increasingly “evangelical.” The broad mass of twenty- and thirty-something Catholics today may be thoroughly secularized, but there is an inner core of faithful and practicing young Catholics who are the ones most likely to pursue a vocation to the priesthood or religious life, or to be most interested in making a career in the church as a lay person. The future leaders of Catholicism in America will come from this inner core. By now there’s a considerable body of data about these “millennial Catholics,” and the consistent finding is that they’re more traditional in their attitudes and practices than the “Vatican II” generation they’re replacing. These younger Catholics are attracted to traditional spiritual practices such as Eucharistic adoration and Marian piety; they have a generally positive attitude towards authority, especially the papacy; and they’re less inclined to be critical of church teaching. I use the word “evangelical” rather than “conservative” to describe all this, in part because most experts say it’s not really about the politics of left vs. right so much as generational dynamics. These young Catholics came of age in a rootless secular world, and are hungry for a clear sense of identity. More and more, the church’s ministerial workforce will be stamped by this evangelical ethos.
The Ministered-To
First, the Catholic population of the future in the United States, like the country as a whole, will be older. The most rapidly growing demographic sub-segment of the American population is actually not immigrants, legal or undocumented, but the elderly. In 2005, there were 34.7 million Americans who were 65 and above; by 2050, the U.S. Census Bureau projects that number will 75.9 million, meaning the 65+ population will more than double within a half-century. Catholics in the United States are actually slighter younger than the general population, because of the lower average age among Hispanics and their higher-than-average birth rates, but nonetheless the Catholic population is also graying. By 2030, the Catholic church in America will have an additional 6.8 million members over the age of 65. While this “gray wave” poses many challenges, both for the society and for the church, it also hints at opportunity. Sociologists report that someone who’s marginally religious at 35 will become progressively more religious as they age, so that the 65+ population represents that slice of the demographic pie most inclined to practice their faith, and most willing to devote their time and treasure to religious causes. If Catholicism in America can shape elder-friendly communities, it could therefore be on the brink of a “boom market.”
Second, the church in this country will increasingly be blue collar and ethnic. According to the most Pew Forum study on religion in America, by 2030 whites will no longer be a statistical majority among American Catholics. Whites will represent 48 percent of the Catholic population, with Hispanics at 41 percent, Asian-Americans at 7.5, and Africans and African-Americans at 3. Luis Lugo, director of the Pew Forum, calls this the “browning” of the Catholic church in America. Lugo notes that as Catholicism browns, it also becomes poorer. Hispanic immigrants are seven times less likely than whites to have completed high school, and two and one-half times more likely to earn less than $30,000 a year. They’re proportionately more likely to be under-insured or uninsured. Given these demographics, Catholicism in America in the 21st century will become an increasingly “blue collar” faith. In some ways, this is taking the Catholic church in America back to the situation it faced in the 19th and early 20th centuries, when its demographic base was composed of successive waves of European immigration clustered in mostly blue-collar occupations and neighborhoods.
Third, the church in America will be increasingly “tribalized.” The persistent divisions in American Catholicism are often referred to as “polarization,” but the fault line between left and right is hardly the only one that matters. The Catholic landscape in America is dotted with various tribes: pro-life Catholics, liturgical traditionalists, the various movements, church reform Catholics, peace-and-justice groups, and so on. In principle that diversity is an asset, but in practice sometimes these tribes see themselves as rivals rather than allies, and hence the church becomes bogged down by internal conflict. (It’s the tribalism of the Balkans, in other words, not the Iroquois Confederacy.) This reality reflects a broad tendency in American culture over the last forty years, documented in Bill Bishop’s book The Big Sort, for Americans to retreat into physical and virtual “gated communities.” Increasingly, many Americans -- including American Catholics -- prefer to rub shoulders only with people who already share their values, worldview, and political and theological beliefs. In turn, the clustering of the like-minded produces an echo chamber effect. Positions become more extreme, and people who don’t share those positions seem increasingly alien and dangerous. The political climate in early 2010 doesn’t offer much reason to believe this tribalism is likely to abate soon.
The Future
During Q&A, one sharp administrator told me he’s always skeptical about straight-line projections, which assume that the future will be like the present. What about some “wild card” factor, he asked, which would scramble the picture in unpredictable fashion -- in the way that 9/11 recalibrated American foreign policy?
The question is obviously a good one, but unfortunately it’s fairly useless analytically. “Stay loose” is always good advice, but not really a basis for allocating resources or setting priorities.
In any event, one could argue that the most important wild card in terms of how these six trends will develop isn’t a possible bolt from the blue like Hurricane Katrina, but rather the choices American Catholics will make. How these six forces affect Catholic fortunes, in other words, is likely to rest in the first place on how we react to them.
For example, will the rising tide of evangelical energy among young ministers fuel tribalization in the church? Will it shade off into a sort of “ghetto Catholicism,” effectively disengaged from the broader culture? Or, will it revive important markers of Catholic identity, recharging the church’s batteries to offer a distinctive contribution to the challenges of the 20st century?
Which way that goes will depend to a great extent on how the rest of the church reacts. In particular, will older Catholics artificially force the up-and-coming generation to take sides in the church’s culture wars? Or, will we allow younger Catholics to be themselves -- finding their own mistakes to make, rather than repeating ours?
Similarly, the growing presence of international priests and other ministers from abroad could open up the American church to what it means to be Catholic in other parts of the world. It could also deepen existing tensions among priests, or between priests and people. Once again, the outcome will ride in large part on the choices Catholics make in parishes, dioceses, and other venues across the country -- how open or closed, flexible or rigid, they decide to be.
The great unknown isn’t so much what might drop from the Heavens, but how American Catholics will respond to the realities already facing them. The future, in other words, depends not so much on our stars, but on ourselves.
* * *
My Q&A sessions and informal chats with people at the conference reflected conversations I’ve had with Catholics all over the world during the last couple of months, in that the sexual abuse crisis, for obvious reasons, figured prominently. In general, two points loomed especially large in terms of what Catholics seem to be feeling.
First, people who have followed the story of the crisis for the last decade are genuinely astonished that Pope Benedict XVI has come to be seen as its symbol, since they know he’s the senior Vatican official who has done more than anyone else to weed out abuser priests and to acknowledge the suffering of victims. In some cases that’s fueling resentment and suspiciousness of the media, while in others it’s seen more as a problem of communications and the legendary inscrutability of the Vatican. In any event, there is a tangible sense of frustration that any other storyline about Pope Benedict -- the positive teaching in his three encyclicals, or his strong environmental advocacy, or his efforts to engage the worlds of secular science and philosophy -- has been buried under an avalanche of crisis.
Second, there is a widespread sentiment that the public relations approach of the Vatican doesn’t seem to be helping. Based on the reactions they’ve picked up in their workplaces, families, and neighborhoods, these Catholics were reporting that blaming the media, and comparing the attacks on the pope to anti-Semitism or to “petty gossip,” have fueled public impressions that the church is in denial. Given that the folks at NACPA often have backgrounds in corporate management, several asked me why the Vatican doesn’t bring in a team of faithful lay Catholics with communications expertise to give them advice. Of course, there’s a truckload of reasons why it’s difficult to put together a coordinated communications strategy in the Holy See, not the least of which is that it’s a far more decentralized and loosey-goosey environment than people imagine. That said, my experience at NACPA and elsewhere suggests there’s a vast reservoir of Catholics who would dearly love to offer their professional skills to help the Vatican out -- if only someone would ask.
[John Allen is NCR senior correspondent. His e-mail address is jallen@ncronline.org.]






There is a significant part
There is a significant part missing in the "The Ministers" portion of this article. While speaking of the declining number of priests and the increasing number of lay ecclesial ministers is accurate it totally ignores the increasing number of Deacons throughout the nation and indeed the world.
The great majority of Deacons are still employed in the work force and conduct their ministry for the church in a non paid capacity. During our formation one of our priest instructors described Deacons as "Ordained ministers in the work place" with one foot in the church and the other in the work a day world, a bridge if you will. Obviously Deacons are not priests and there are certain things we cannot do, most obviously Sacraments of the Eucharist and Reconciliation, however to totally ignore this large and growing part of ministry in our church, especially with the title of the article in mind, is to not paint a complete picture of the future of ministry within the church in these changing times.
You would think after more
You would think after more than 30 years, the huge number of deacons ministering in our parishes would be obvious. However, in too many cases their ministry is in spite of instead of in collaboration with the local priests. We are still seen as non-essential.
THERE ARE quite a few
THERE ARE quite a few responses about deacons being left out of Mr. Allen's analysis. I don't think deacons are out of sight and out of mind for nothing. Unfortunately, too few deacons read the trends very well, since they are overly proud of the fact that they can wear liturgical robes.
Despite the increase in number of deacons, the analysis may well be that deacons are the “new nuns” of the church, free labor to support the priests. The growing traditionalist attitude towards deacons is that are hardly central to the church. The more fundamentalist priests now coming out of American seminaries and certainly those from the Third World countries (where most American bishops are getting their new priests) have a certain distain for deacons. The Third World countries don’t even have deacons. More conservative bishops in this country don’t have them, either. More conservative priests won’t let them preach or restrict their sacramental duties (they can visit the sick or the elderly because priests do not have time for that anymore). Priests are very jealous who gets stole fees in their parishes. How many priests do you hear referring to “my deacon?” So, the deacon is there as a liturgical prop and someone to do minor duties that priests no longer want to do or nuns are not available to do.
Forty years after the establishment of the diaconate, its role in the church is still undefined and un-heralded. Witness the recent change in Canon Law by the Vatican to declare deacons are not part of the hierarchical order and governance of the church. It is a priestly church, organized for priests, not deacons or laity. So deacons, you might acknowledge that your ordination is seen by most Catholics as insignificant. Sorry, that might hurt, but at least one can be realistic about it.
Gosh, Mr. Allen, did you
Gosh, Mr. Allen, did you completely forget about the deacons & all the ministry they carry out and will continue to carry out? How about their numbers?...we find in our diocese that our current training program cuts out quite a number of men because it is of a much longer duration than previously & has a higher academic level than it used to have...they are accepting fewer men than they used to...what is the impact of current deacon training programs? Is the diaconate aging, too?
There's a story there, Mr. Allen...
As a brand new Catholic of 66
As a brand new Catholic of 66 years old after a life-time of being a very secular but socially conscious person, I find your article very informative. I am learning a lot about the Church, its history and related issues. Thank you very much.
Sabine Atwell
John, and where do the
John, and where do the permanent deacons figure in this scenario.. or don't they?
Great stuff. Thank you John.
Great stuff. Thank you John. Will share with others.
Good analysis. I was a
Good analysis. I was a teenager during the Second Vatican Council and a candidate in the RCIA in the early 80's. Therefore, I am definitely one of the progressive older Catholics who might be challenged by the views of U.S. Catholics in their teens and 20's.
Catholics of my generation, however, should remember that it isn't 1970 or 1980 any longer. It's 2010, and we should stop fighting old battles. There is a legitimate need for an alternative to much that characterizes contemporary society. If we old folks can show that our progressive views about the church will contribute to the strong sense of identity and the fundamental values many of the young are seeking, then we have the right to enter into dialogue with them. But we also need to listen. It would be good, however, if John Allen devoted a future article or talk to people in their 20's and 30's who were raised Catholic but who have rejected any formal religious affiliation. Is this a larger group than those who remain active Catholics? I suspect that it might be.
The "Balkan tribalism" in the church is truly unfortunate. What can U.S. Catholics of any age do to transcend it?
As always John's articles are
As always John's articles are insightful. I just have two thoughts or rather questions.
The numbers presented here cause me to pause. Are there really more priests than lay ministers? In most parishes I know there are three lay ministers to every priest. Is it that the number of lay ministers are underreported? Does this number also include the number of lay ministers working in diocesan offices, elementary and high schools, and campus ministries? The numbers simply do not add up.
Another question I have is how will the younger "evangelical Catholics" interact/minister with their contemporaries? Since their contemporaries are also the future of the church with a totally different outlook on things, can this inner core group evangelize their peers or will they cause division within the church? And who will their peers look to when they seek assistance from the church? My experience with college students tells me they will not react positivily to this inner group of evangelical Catholics.
Excelent observations, as
Excelent observations, as usual.
I wonder if time is ripe for evangelical or guerrila action on the part of younger laypeople that would put then in on the street corners and doorsteps to deliver the Good News. It is past time to do something about sects like the JWs who are sending teams to attract poorly instructed Catholic with sometimes blatant out-and-out lies about the Church and its teachings.
It is interesting to note
It is interesting to note that in John Allen Jr.'s blog on american catholic demographics and minister demographics he does not address the Sacred Order of Deacon in the American Church. I am perplexed by this. He pays careful attention to noting the statistics on Priests and Religious, and offers a good summary of the many outstanding "lay" ministers providing service to our Church, including naming many of the ministries that they are facilitating. However, no mention is made of the Diaconate and its demographics (almost as many Deacons in the US Church as active Priests in ministry)or of the role many Deacons, as Ordained clergy, are playing in the administrative, pastoral and sacramental areas of Parish and Diocesian life and structure. He also does not mention that vocations to the Diaconate are growing rapidly in the US Church, especially within the new immigrant Catholic communities.
Many comments have noted John
Many comments have noted John Allen's failure to mention the diaconate. As a point of information, what percentage of the deaconate is male and what is female? I actually don't know since this is not a force in my parish.
Unfortunately we are all
Unfortunately we are all male. The church has disenfranchised at least 50% of its members.
@Anonymous (not verified) on
@Anonymous (not verified) on May. 03, 2010:
"As a point of information, what percentage of the deaconate is male and what is female?"
## There are no deaconesses in the Roman Rite of the CC. Whether there are in other Catholic Rites, I don't know
http://www.nationalcatholicreporter.org/word/word112103.htm
The possibility of ordaining women as deaconesses is still an open question, however; unlike that of ordaining women to the priesthood.
Deacons, at least in my
Deacons, at least in my Archdiocese, are kept from recognition, it seems intentional. The local Catholic press seldom makes mention of them. I don't know how many times from the pulpit we've been directed to pray for the Archbishop, the priests and religious and no mention of deacons.
It's a shame in light of the present day crisis not to have these people brought forward as examples, clergy that are fathers of families as examples of how to live the Catholic life in the world.
I understand working the streets and behind the scenes in ministry of service.
I think most deacons would rather do prison ministry or some other caring role rather than being stuck behind behind a desk in the rectory. A deacon's biggest fear is winding up in some administrative role.
As usual John Allen's report
As usual John Allen's report is insightful and well written. The recruitment of priests from other countries, especially developing countries has been reported in a series last year in the NY Times. This reminds me of the practice of recruiting health professionals, especially nurses, from countries in dire need of medical staff but lacking the financial resources to support them. We have had recently two excellent priests from African countries. But what about their home areas? Both are from countries with "impossible" ratios of baptized Catholics to priests.
Also much of this comes back to the restriction of ordination to celibate males.
As long as the Church refuses to seriously consider this issue we will be deprived of the talent and leadership of the full Catholic community.
I was at the 50th ordination celebration of a priest in a town that recently
merged two long standing parishes into one because of their shortage of priests.
Yet the merged communities have already experienced the negative effects anonynity of the giant parish and the hectic life of overworked clergy. At the same time there are women, single and married, and married men willing to serve as priests. It makes no sense to me.
"The choices Catholics make
"The choices Catholics make in parishes?" Are you kidding? We can't choose a bishop, we can't choose a pastor, and in my parish we can't even choose the members of the parish council--as if it made any difference when the council has no authority to decide or do anything anyway. There is indeed "a vast reservoir of Catholics who would dearly love to offer their professional skills" not only to the Vatican but to their own parishes and dioceses. Unfortunately, they are overlooked or dismissed (unless they have money, of course). Until the clerical culture becomes less rigid and less threatened by competent lay people, particularly women, a lot of people will leave the church of the future to those millenials and offer their gifts elsewhere.
So right you are. In
So right you are. In [-------------] we were sent a priest who is mentally ill, he is not molesting children so it seems to be ok with the Bishop that he is alienating the laity (unless they have money). Money is a big issue. More important than the shepperding of souls.He thought he needed a burglar alarm in the rectory but left the church unprotected.Selfish.Paranoid.The Deacon's homilies draw standing ovations because the homily is about the scriptures. The priest talks about himself.He has almost made the Deacon disappear.He actually filed a restraining order against a parishioner because he claimed she was planning to kill him.I know the woman was the least likely to hurt anyone even if he does push everyone around like a bully.Crazy!Alot of us left and attend Mass someplace else.I feel sorry for the Priest we were sent to assist him in the crazy things he does and says.The laity won't even try anymore.The Bishop refuses to comment.
John Allen, You're so full of
John Allen,
You're so full of hot air. You have absolutely no idea how the future will play out or who our "ministers" will be.
John Allen's analysis tallies
John Allen's analysis tallies with my research in the same areas. My question, however, is whether we are moving in the direction that the Dominican historian Edward Cleary is suggesting Latin America went, that is to say, developing a form of Catholicism that will not center on the liturgy. I've been editing a history of Christianity in the modern period written by two very astute Protestant scholars, and when I finished their chapters on the 16th and 17th centuries, I could see them setting the groundwork that gives warrants to Cleary's thesis. There were a lot of other things going on in Latin America, of course, including the fact that Spanish and Portuguese church leaders didn't want Indian and mestizo priests and the way in which popular Catholicism was providing a quiet subversive way for local peoples to be Christian while dissenting from the colonial ideology.
In Latin America, as the saying goes, the Catholic Church opted for the poor just as the poor were opting for Pentecostalism. A people largely unformed in solid biblical and doctrinal teaching often grabs it with both hands when Pentecostals and Evangelicals. Protestantism is in many ways "Christianity without Frills." Vatican II was all about identifying our frills and trying to put the emphasis on the essentials. Alas, what many in the hierarchy seem intent on doing is interpreting the essentials in the light of their own experience in clerical life. The new laity, I suspect, may love John Paul II's and Benedict XVI's teachings on the really essential essentials -- as do I -- but I wonder whether many of them won't get disgruntled when they are told to conform to what imported foreign priests, some without deep understanding of American culture, tell them to do. JP2 and B16 understand well the dangers of modernity, they appear to me less able to provide leadership on how to adapt without compromise.
A former student of mine was a director of church planting for the Southern Baptists metropolitan arm in Chicago. He "planted" thirty Baptist churches around Chicagoland in the 1980s. Half his new Baptists, he said, were former Catholics. I've met many of the imported priests. They are usually very fine men. But so were most of the Spaniards and Portuguese priests that Latin American Catholicism used in the 17th - 19th centuries. Are we headed the same way Latin America went? I very much agree with John Allen that the most impressive of the new Catholic lay leaders are "evangelical." We do well to realize that in the 1520s the last thing Luther wanted to do was to found a Lutheran Church. He wanted to make the one Catholic Church evangelical.
At some point, American Catholic episcopal leadership is going to either begin to take American culture seriously and find ways to adapt to it without going in a reductionist "liberal" direction or we will live with a much enfeebled, too-Roman, antiquarian body that will be a pale imitation of the vigorous Body of Christ.
Mr Allen,Im a catholic from
Mr Allen,Im a catholic from Brazil,I would like to do one suggestion,you could write an article about the permanent deaconate a vocation that is growing here and in the world.
Thanks
Mr. Allen absolves B16 of any
Mr. Allen absolves B16 of any blame re: his handling of the sex abuse crisis yet the evidence from his days as archbishop of Munich and his pronouncements concerning withholding information from the civil authorities, until very recently, suggests otherwise.
How, then, can Mr. Allen substantiate his claim that B16 "has done more than anyone else to weed out abuser priests and to acknowledge the suffering of victims."?
You mischaracterize what Mr.
You mischaracterize what Mr. Allen writes. He has by no means "absolved" Pope Ratzinger of the sex abuse crisis, but (in previous articles) has precented the dats of what Benedict/Ratzinger has done and has not done. I see no place where Mr. Allen denies your important points, only that he gives us the other side of the staory: that once Ratzinger as Prefect of the CDF began to see all of the information related to all cases of clerical abuse that were reported to the Vatican, he took some definitive steps (including going up against John Paul II) in dealing with them. As pope, he has met with some survivors and made public apologies on behalf of the Church. Having said that, it is also clear that this has not been enough, too late in coming, and too defensive and self-serving in the Vatican's approach to public relations. But the fact remains, Dan, that Benedict has indeed done more to deal with the sex abuse issue than anyone else in the heirarchy of the Church. That it has been insufficient and muddled is just as true. You may want to read (or re-read) John Allen's essays on the matter in his previous NCR postings. Hope this helps.
I'm afraid you forgot someone
I'm afraid you forgot someone in your demographics of ministry: Permanent Deacons.
Traditionally, the relationship of deacons with priests and religious is complementary; together they form a communion of ministries. The order of deacon is an ordained ministry. Graced by the sacrament of Ordination, the deacon proclaims by his very life the Church's call to serve the needs of others in the three great areas of the Church's life: word, sacrament and service.
Upon ordination, the deacon enters into a new set of relationships with his bishop, those with whom he ministers, as well as the laity, from whose ranks he comes and from whom he is now separated.
As an ordained minister, he becomes for the community a unique sign and instrument of what Jesus Christ is for the Church, and of what the Church must be for the sake of Christ - a servant. It is this "service" which characterises the ministry of deacon, a distinctive mark from the ancient days of the Church (see Acts 6). The deacon, by his ordination, is a representative symbol of the inner-connection with laity among the tri-ministry of word, sacrament and service.
Pope Paul VI outlined the deacon's role as follows:
to assist the bishop and priests during liturgical services in regard to all those matters assigned to the deacon by the liturgical books for the various rights;
to administer baptism solemnly...
to reserve the Eucharist for himself and for others; to bring viaticum to the dying; to give benediction with the monstrance or ciborium;
to assist marriage in the name of the Church, when no priest is available, and, with the bishop's or pastor's delegation, to impart the nuptial blessing...
to administer sacramentals and preside at funerals and burial rites;
to read the books of Scripture to the faithful, to instruct and exhort the congregation;
to preside at offices of worship and prayer services, when no priest is available;
to lead celebrations of the work, especially in places where there is a lack of priests.
Such is the liturgical service deacons render to God and God's people in the celebration of the Eucharist, other sacramental rites, and communal prayer.
How can the more than 14,000 permanent deacons be excluded from the "demographics" of ministry?
Pardon me if I feel
Pardon me if I feel insulted--or at least neglected.
Not one word about the fastest growing ORDAINED ministry in the Church--the diaconate. Almost everything lay ecclesial ministers can do--Church documents say deacons should be first to do them--including being parish administrators.
And finally there is a married ordained clergy in the Catholic Church and sometimes it is as if those who wanted a married presence in Church leadership are determined to be blind to the fact it already exists.
As far as "public relations"
As far as "public relations" is concerned. The Vatican would be best served if it had a policy of "the whole truth and nothing but the truth" because of the Cover-up Scandal. Unfortunately Vatican officials don't seem to understand what that means as far as the cover-up is concerned. Let me suggest the elimination of policies of secrecy for starters followed by "full" transparency meaning disclosure of "all" communications with regard to all sexual abuse cases (censoring ONLY the names of those who were sexually abused).
oy vey . . . just come to the
oy vey . . .
just come to the Spanish Mass already
y bienvenidos
I most certainly will be
I most certainly will be going to the Mass in Spanish if this "new English" translation actually comes to pass..."new English" (AKA ungrammatical run-on sentences, word-for-word mish mash) is not my 2nd language, Spanish is...English is my first language.
Good article. "What about
Good article. "What about some “wild card” factor, he asked, which would scramble the picture in unpredictable fashion -- in the way that 9/11 recalibrated American foreign policy?"
Here are a few wild cards of which there is considerable anecdotal evidence at this time. (1) Although the majority of Catholics are women, the Church may experience continued steady loss of female members as many educated women will no longer be willing to participate in their own oppression and male-hierarchy-defined definition of their purpose or role in life, at least without their input; this loss of female Roman Catholics may be exacerbated/accelerated by actions such as the Vatican investigation of women religious or, for example, excommunication of women who attend female ordinations while failing to excommunicate child molesting priests or men who rape their own daughters; I see this type of "bailout from the Church" among my female friends; (2) Continued decline in vocations in the U.S., in part because independent, educated women are reluctant to encourage their sons (or even actively discourage their sons) to represent a system of belief/theology of oppression/inferiority of women; (3) Decline in membership due to ongoing disgust with sexual abuse in the church and the history of coverups and its perceived intertwined nature with the church's obsession with celibacy, homosexuality, the church's condemnation of homosexuality, women's bodies, and the church's disdain for women.
Thank you for expressing what
Thank you for expressing what I believe to be the obvious. Sadly a Church that holds fast to it's misguided roots will find they have withered and died like the tree. Women represent the 50% of the Church that has largely held it together. No longer will I be part of an organisation that disenfranchieses women, gays and those who dare to say the emperor has no clothes on.
Again many thanks for your wisdom
Therese
Agreed. But I choose to stay
Agreed. But I choose to stay and fight. What impact can any woman makes outside the institution? We need to be here and make our voices heard. I am constantly sharing my thoughts about the role of women in the Church with EVERY Catholic I know.
Where do deacons fit into all
Where do deacons fit into all of this? I read about priests, religious, and laity, but no deacons. Do we not matter?
The Traditional segment in
The Traditional segment in the Church is growing rapidly. It is also quite young. I have been informally studying it for a few years now. I estimate that over 50% of attendees at a typical FSSP Mass are less than 14 years old. There is also a large number of infants being born. At the SSPX chapel in St. Mary's, there were over 100 baptisms this year.
We are currently at the cusp of a boom among Traditionalists. The leading edge is currently 18 years old. I expect marriages and priestly vocations to start an exponential climb during the next 5 years. The Traditionalist seminaries are already full. I expect all the Traditional orders to have to add new seminaries in the next 5 years.
Whether the Holy Father is
Whether the Holy Father is deserving of the anti-press now apparent is not the point. What really matters is what is needed to obtain a complete turn-a-round.
We are relational creatures by nature - clergy and people. If only the Church Fathers can eat humble pie and do what should have been done years ago - make celibacy optional, it may cut the ground from under the feet of a hostile press and allow the Church to regain it's self respect
http://www.starnewsonline.com
http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20100427/ZNYT03/4273018/-1/APA?p=1...
The above link creates what is a dilemma for me any many, many Catholics on this side of the Atlantic. I agree with you John (although not really the purpose of your article) that B16 has indeed done more than any other Pope to "...weed out abuser priests" and has spoken to victims. I also genuinely believe he is profoundly sorry, but what I do not see is the radical actions that need to be taken to change the system that allowed such systemic abuse to occur, throughout the world, indicating emphatically that it is of no matter as regards national cultures. Therefore, it is highly likely that the system for training priests has a huge role to play.
It must be radically changed.
Quick suggestions-;
1 - Academic studies done in secular universities.
2 - Much more emphasis on pastoral work, by working and living in parishes during formation.
The core problem with all
The core problem with all these issues is the Vatican and the paternalistic leadership and the Pope himself. Dump any two of these and the problem is solved.
The church should include the
The church should include the sacrament of holy orders in the sequence of initiation rites for all, maybe 5 or 7 years after confirmation. Then we will literally be the holy priesthood that we are called to be.
Let us find a way for all Catholics to experience all seven sacraments.
God's grace is infinite, and it is ridiculous to see some little men trying to ration it, dole it out, bottle it up, use it like a carrot, and control the faucet. The church hierarchy treats God like politicians and land grabbers here in the west have treated water rights.
The church's personnel crises are self-inflicted.
John, Do you project that the
John,
Do you project that the trend for the priesthood within this snapshot of the future will be disproportionately homosexual vis-a-vis the general Catholic population, or closer to the actual Catholic demographic than appears to be at present? Did you consider mentioning this in your address and think you'd better not? Or did it truly not occur to you?
Elizabeth
I just finished reading,
I just finished reading, "Goodbye Good Men," and would love to know how the Seminaries compare from when that book was written to now. After reading your article it sounds as if there are still vastly fewer entering than in the past, or are there fewer entering and more being dismissed as "Goodbye Good Men" discussed? I must admit I am concerned as to the future path our Church will take here in America.
I always learn something when
I always learn something when I read a John Allen column; they are full of well researched and well written information that makes me think.
We live in the age of what I call "MBA efficiency" with the belief that organizations have to be efficient and relevant or they die. I don't think BXVI is being condemned for doing nothing about the sexual abuse crisis, certainly he did more than his predecessor, but in his five years in the Apostolic Palace he has done very little to completely reverse the downward course of this crisis. It appears he has simply responded to events and not taken charge. If BXVI does understand the seriousness of pedophile priests, as the "chief manager" he hasn't pounded it into his staff and made its resolution a top priority in the Church. From the outside he appears to be focused on the theology wars between right and left and comes across as the lost leader of an incompetent gerontocracy. Abuse of children is a very important matter to parishioners and the public and as a manager he has failed to focus sufficient resources to manage it. Perception is reality and change at glacial speed is perceived as no action.
The unstated assumption is
The unstated assumption is that the priesthood itself will not change. Personally, I would not be the least bit surprised if Catholics just took the problem into their own hands and stopped waiting on the Vatican to face reality and change doctrine and theology surrounding the priesthood. I would not be surprised if this movement actually began in Latin America and not North America.
It seems pointless to save the all male celibate priesthood if it means the laity is lost to denominations who can actually serve their spiritual and religious needs. Unless of course, Catholic identity is nothing more than an enabling strategy for maintenance of this priesthood. This would mean preserving the Trentan notion of priesthood is a higher priority than serving the People of God. But then putting the priesthood over the needs of the people is itself traditional.
Each step of the way, the
Each step of the way, the future is here. As with any institution, progress and change is slow, as it should be. Talk of Benedict's 'smaller and holier church' or, the often held sentiment, 'the church is done', are both doomsday prophecies, assuming we are on the 'straight-line projection'. If this were ever the case, we wouldn't be here. The Catholic Church, as always, will change, adapt and survive. If it doesn't, then nature dictates it will die. There are too many variables and too many theories to predict with any confidence. I personally wonder if the MONARCHY style of leadership is headed for extinction, maybe replaced with a 'supreme court' type of rule. hmmmmm....
The problem with telling the
The problem with telling the future based on current trends is that it can’t account for the unforeseen. Imagine if Catholics stopped contracepting like Protestants and returned to having larger families. Is the current two generation demo of 2 kids per and anomaly or the new steady state? If Catholics are open to life (like they promise at the wedding Mass) then the vocations will return.
I can't believe that you
I can't believe that you reflected for more than an hour on the future of ministry in the Church in the US, and the word deacon didn't even cross your lips. The lay ministry lobby apparently has bought you, lock, stock and barrel.
Thank you for the interesting
Thank you for the interesting item from the Pew Forum regarding Hispanics growing a majority of the Roman Catholic chruch in the USA.
This can only produce a salutatory effect on our rigid hierarchy, which must bend to the pastoral needs of this ineluctable process, or further lose the Church in America, giving open, free market, as under Wojtyla's early choice for Central America, Obando v Bravo, to the evangelical and other sects who can quickly offer a more brotherly face, more direct and concrete aid, a more compassionate and constant co-journeying, than a bunch of old white English speaking Irish and German guys wearing forty foot robes in their concrete and glass skyscraper in the heart of the financial district.
Kind of like when the British Crown and Parliament under Derby forced the dispossessed Irish Catholic to pay for the Protestant Church of Ireland, which offered in return a bowl of soup if they would only join. Most starving Irish, their own agriculture stolen and send to England, still refused to take the soup, but some did.
There may nevertheless be hope, even here.
The Gospel at this morning's Mass concludes with Juan 13:34-35. I don't know what they read at the English only Mass, and judging from the Balkanized comments here, it must have been the Gospel according to Beck, but we read together:
Les doy un mandamiento nuevo: ámense los unos a los otros. Así como yo los he amado, ámense también ustedes los unos a los otros. En esto todos reconocerán que ustedes son mis discípulos: en el amor que se tengan los unos a los otros.
So.
Where's the Love, dudes?
Ubi Petrus ibi ecclesia
Ubi caritas Deus ibi est
"The future leaders of
"The future leaders of Catholicism in America will come from this inner core. By now there’s a considerable body of data about these “millennial Catholics,” and the consistent finding is that they’re more traditional in their attitudes and practices than the “Vatican II” generation they’re replacing. These younger Catholics are attracted to traditional spiritual practices such as Eucharistic adoration and Marian piety; they have a generally positive attitude towards authority, especially the papacy; and they’re less inclined to be critical of church teaching." - John Allen
Read em and weep NCR crowd. Your fad has come and gone. It's kind of ironic; your revolutionary idealogy ultimately resulted in you demographing yourself out of existence. Bravo!
I don't understand this.
I don't understand this. "Read em and weep"? This isn't a campaign or a game or a contest. It's people sharing and weighing ideas. It's people who care about the health of their religion and human society trying to brainstorm and find ways to make things better. Even though I feel most comfortable with "progressive" notions about my religion (based on my excellent, stimulating K to 12 catholic schooling, much of it pre Vatican 2), I would never begrudge another of their religious experience through more traditional adoration, Marian devotions, etc. I realize that I retain a strong fondness for the incense-filled long version of the litany of the saints chanted in Latin. Please move away from thinking of people sharing various ideas from across the spectrum as moves in a power play that will have some of us emerging as victors over our brothers and sisters. That's just really off-base.
Don't be so optimistic about
Don't be so optimistic about your hopes for a resurgence of traditional Catholic ecclesial life.
Read James Davidson & Dean Hoge's "Mind the Gap: The Return of the Lay-Clerical Divide" in a COMMONWEAL issue a few years ago. Based on their longitudinal studies, these sociologists of religion predicted that as the cultic "JPII priests" move in one direction, the laity --- both old AND young --- will continue to move in the opposite direction. In another decade or so, we can plan on seeing the greatest "expectation gap" between a clergy that believes it is ontologically superior to the laity and must have the final say in church matters, on the one hand, and a growing and increasingly educated and informed laity who will refuse to kowtow to such clergy.
What Allen writes does not appear to be inconsistent with Davidson and Hoge.
We should keep in mind that "the Catholic Church" is increasingly being seen as a body of Catholics fed up with Rome. These Catholics may still be participating in the institutional church (for now), or belong to separate Catholic communities, or have left altogether out of frustration with the Vatican and its lackey hierarchs.
If you want to ignore the lessons of history, then shout for joy at the prospect of a "smaller but purer" church, i.e., a large sect. On the other hand, if you are disturbed by the Tridentine cultural "fruits" that have fallen to the ground in the past eight years, then you might want to take your own advice and "weep".
In your rush, DM, to condemn
In your rush, DM, to condemn and play one-upmanship, I believe you lost on the more important point that many progressives and traditionalists have been trying to make for a long, long time: we are all part of the same Church, the same fabric of spiritual life no matter what our attachments are to certain practices, or objects, or teachings, or liturgical styles, and so on. Unlike what is often found in these blogs, my experience has been that far more of the faithful can work together on the betterment of our church than those that can't. The rational, adult person - of whatever theological or pastoral position - can accept the differences that come with any collaboration, focus more on the points of common understanding, value the worth and dignity of the person far more than their personal belief system, and know beyond any doubt that WE ARE in union with Christ only as much as we are with each other. Now, won't you reconsider your own thinking and perhaps join those of us trying to do the best we can under the most difficult of circumstances? As you know, I am sure, it is not easy being Catholic these days. Let us all hope we don't have to "weep" over revealed facts about the Church for much longer. I'm tired of being of such heavy heart so often: aren't you?
There are a few thingsin this
There are a few thingsin this article that I would like to question
1 The blue collar catholics of the future.
This has occurred only partly from immigration. The older well educated and thinking Catholics have not lost their faith in Jesus and God but have turned thei backs on the church because they can no longer accept the restraints on their understanding of their relationship with God, the bullying from above that stifles new ideas, new ways of understanding what we believe that do not force us to walk our of the institution or cease to be authentic christioan.
2 If we are to revitalise the church we must not take the easy way out of embracing only those who are happy with the status quo but must seek out those who would be only too willing to help in this reformation if they could be listened to with open minds. Any reformation must be undertaken with an openess to the working of the Holy Spirit and a willingness to follow where we are led.
3 I think no reform can happen from the top - the situation has gone too far
In answer to the
In answer to the Traditionalist on May 1 and Future Leaders on May 3 the U. S. church they describe is much narrower than was the case in my youth. I am 70. When I was 20, Catholics of all stripes were Catholics. Today the Catholic young attending Mass regularly are apparently Catholics of a more provincial outlook, as proudly proclaimed in these two comments. One might seriously question whether this change is an improvement. From a small base future growth can appear very large.
As an aside, many young Catholic parents today still value Catholic teaching for their children's spiritual and ethical growth and try hard to tune out their distress with regard to some in the Catholic hierarchy. I don't think these American Catholics, sometimes considered lukewarm Catholics because of their questioning of authority, among other issues, should be treated so cavalierly as is done in the abovementioned comments. The optimum size of the tent is not always easy to determine.
In our diocese the priests
In our diocese the priests are now over 60% Philipino and 80% foreign born. Unlike the Irish clergy of the past, there is such a disconnect in culture, language, interests and devotions that the people are slowly losing heart and just migrating away. Other priests from Mexico, Colombia, Africa and Asia seem totally unprepared for the American parish and are virtually useless except as designated Mass celebrants. Preaching and leadership are approaching a new low and younger, educated and thinking folk are simply drifting away. We are on the verge of creating a 'museum church.'
Thank you to all of you who
Thank you to all of you who mentioned the Deaconate as a missing link in Mr. Allen's essay. We too often overlook you folks when you are indeed one of the growing ways of service to the world Church. You deserve a front and center place in Catholic life and I promise that from now on, I will remember you all in my daily prayers.
Is it possible, do the deacons among us who read here think, that you are marginalized by most of the Church because of the continued "addiction" to it being a clerical state? In thinking about it, I cannot recall much being said or written about a serious effort on the part of bishops to recruit for the Permanent Deaconate. Keep shouting at all of us, deacons, until we hear you clearly!
One other thought. If anyone knows of any sound data about his, please let me know, but I wonder if the traditionalist-leaning younger Catholics referred to, are in any greater number than has been the usual case historically. It would seem to me that they may be more traditionalist in some of their practices and observances, but (a) not in the same way their older church members are, and (b) that they have significant differences in attitudes and therefore obedience to many traditionalist norms of the Church. I would like specific references, as much of what some blogs here represent as "fact" are not supported by the research or at times even common sense.
Typical of American cultural
Typical of American cultural imperialism: not only do your marketers try to impose Americanism all over the world (Coke, McDonalds, etc) - but now you are stealing priests from countries that need them far more than you do. Shame on you.
Also, the young involved-Catholics may be more conservative now, but wait 'til they grow up a bit and experience the very factors that lead the older generation to a more liberal position. Example, I know an early 30's couple who embodied the very involved-yet-evangelical outlook that is mentioned. Very, very involved. Very gifted. Despite all that he fell in love with a 19 year old, and proved just what a silly boy he really is. His now-ex wife ... what happens to her: if she wants to stay involved, she must stay single for the rest of her life. The cruelty of church-teaching in this area in breathtaking.
The developing world may be
The developing world may be not as wealthy in money, but is richer in faith, as evidenced by the strong religious growth among both religious and laypersons there. Trying to guilt-trip Americans with talk of "stealing priests" is ridiculous and ignorant; if anything, the need is greater in the West than in places like Latin America for good priests and other religious, given the trends towards ever-greater secularism in the developed world. As Christ said in Matthew 19:23-24, "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."
The trend towards greater conservatism and religiosity as people age has been tested and demonstrated. Anecdotal cases don't change anything, the facts are what they are.
Having been Confirmed during
Having been Confirmed during the Easter Vigil of 2008, I speak of the RCC with a small whispering voice. However, in the 2+ years I have been Catholic, there is one overiding difference I have noticed from my 5 decades of Protestantism. Cradle Catholics seem to be apologetic about their faith. I do not mean they do apologetics (defense of their faith), but they almost seem to be saying, "I am sorry, I'm Catholic" whenever a discussion of faith happens in their lives outside of church. It is as if they are ashamed of their faith. Trust me when I say that their is much curiosity and interest about the Catholic faith in the Protestant world. One problem is that many Catholics have not been catechized well and do not understand their faith as well as they should. In that case, read, read, read. There are plenty of books, webpages, etc. to educate yourselves. So therefore, live out your faith daily, go to mass regularly, pray, invite others to Mass, read and study the teachings of the Magesterium. Spread the Gospel and the beauty of the One, True, Holy, and Apostolic Church that Christ Jesus founded.
Awesome! Welcome to the
Awesome! Welcome to the CHURCH!!
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